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South Africans told to stop 'whingeing' about crime. If You Don't Like It Here, Leave.
The Guardian ^ | 06/21/2006 | Rory Carroll

Posted on 06/22/2006 10:11:52 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

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To: AppyPappy

South Africa will go the way of Zimbabwe. It is well on its way to becoming yet another African hell hole.


21 posted on 06/22/2006 10:37:00 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: goldstategop

A good friend of mine owns a fuel distribution company in the Breede Valley, SAFFA. He had to take a month off last fall....close his business down as the SAFFA Govt required all small business owners to go to a "conference" for sensitivity training for the workplace and other fun meetings. He said not only did he loose tons of money but he also had to pay his workers for that month.


22 posted on 06/22/2006 10:39:37 AM PDT by BossLady
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To: SirLinksalot; BossLady
Re blame.

.....the legacy of white minority rule,which damaged the social structure of the black people.

I hope none of these worthies ever go to India. Seems that with a vast population, that country is doing admirably well. Colonized they were and for over 200 years.

Fact is that they USED the structure of the whites and still do, apparently. This in reference to the law courts, civil service, military and democratic rule.

23 posted on 06/22/2006 11:13:28 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Xenalyte; r9etb

Not to nitpick, but she *could* be paraplegic with fear.


24 posted on 06/22/2006 11:27:26 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: rightwingcrazy

(nodding gravely) I hadn't thought of that possibility.


25 posted on 06/22/2006 11:30:37 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Peter Libra
.....the legacy of white minority rule,which damaged the social structure of the black people.

All of colonial Africa has been using that excuse for thirty years, and probably will continue to use it for another fifty.

James Michener, in one of his many books, posed the idea that Africa may well have to go through a couple of centuries of retribalization followed by nation-building again. I often think of that when reading news from Africa. Steyn has called it new-primitivization or re-primitivization....

26 posted on 06/22/2006 11:36:09 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Peter Libra

***I hope none of these worthies ever go to India. Seems that with a vast population, that country is doing admirably well. Colonized they were and for over 200 years. ***

Anyone remember when Idi Amin kicked out the People of India who owned most of the shops and collapsed the economy of Uganda?
Remember that India refused to take them back as most were no longer citizens of India. They went to England.


27 posted on 06/22/2006 11:38:06 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Mr. Jeeves
The Mugabe Clock is ticking in South Africa. Fifteen years, tops.

Very generous assessment. Yeah, I hope I'm wrong but some fool from sa was just talking about doin it.

28 posted on 06/22/2006 11:39:49 AM PDT by Dosa26
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To: Peter Libra
Colonized they were and for over 200 years.

[Yoda]Yes, to Peter you listen. Write can he.[/Yoda]

;-)

29 posted on 06/22/2006 11:45:12 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ embraces sinners; liberals embrace the sin.)
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To: Peter Libra
Weird isn't it?! India got smart and thought....hmmm....we may not like the fact that the flag has a union jack but they may have something useful to bring us.....maybe we should look into it....

The whites in SAFFA own many of the businesses....I would think it would be a good thing for everyone to 'play nice' so the economy would grow in leaps and bounds......but what do I know....

30 posted on 06/22/2006 11:58:33 AM PDT by BossLady
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I believe ten years before a Mugabe type takes power in South Africa.


31 posted on 06/22/2006 12:11:48 PM PDT by quadrant
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To: SirLinksalot

Not suprising from a region where the carjackers have perfected their craft. High end cars are targeted, the driver is pulled from the vehicle, and killed immediately. This is done to keep the owner from calling and activating the lo-jack process.

Nice!

Proves the adage:
Guns are outlawed, the criminals have the guns, and the machetes, and the lawnmower blades, and oh yes, the gasoline soaked burning automobile tire necklace.

Thank heavens Peter Hathaway Capstick was not around to see this, and hopefully Mrs. Capstick was spared.


32 posted on 06/22/2006 12:18:23 PM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG! ("On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs" by Dave Grossman))
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To: Rummyfan

""They can continue to whinge until they're blue in the face, be as negative as they want to, or they can simply leave this country so that all of the peace-loving South Africans, good South African people who want to make this a successful country, can continue with their work."

Yeah, like those committing the fifty-one murders and one-hundred-fifty rapes a day!"

Or the farm squatters who have driven off the productive landowners turning the breadbasket of africa into a dustbowl!

Gotta love those african national communists (ANC?)!


33 posted on 06/22/2006 12:21:30 PM PDT by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG! ("On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs" by Dave Grossman))
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To: SirLinksalot

Proves that you can't impose civilization on savages. It doesn't work, and the savages become more sophisticated in their savagery.


34 posted on 06/22/2006 12:30:26 PM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (what have you done today to fight terrorism/leftism (same thing!))
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To: petro45acp
Guns are outlawed, the criminals have the guns, and the machetes, and the lawnmower blades

UNNNGGGHH HMMMMM


35 posted on 06/22/2006 12:35:09 PM PDT by Dosa26
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To: BooksForTheRight.com
Kipling knew it in 1899. Note to mods, poem is more to do with civilizing peoples than being white. And I do think we'll succeed in Iraq for various reasons:-)

Take up the White Man’s burden—

Send forth the best ye breed—

Go send your sons to exile

To serve your captives' need

To wait in heavy harness

On fluttered folk and wild—

Your new-caught, sullen peoples,

Half devil and half child

Take up the White Man’s burden

In patience to abide

To veil the threat of terror

And check the show of pride;

By open speech and simple

An hundred times made plain

To seek another’s profit

And work another’s gain

Take up the White Man’s burden—

And reap his old reward:

The blame of those ye better

The hate of those ye guard—

The cry of hosts ye humour

(Ah slowly) to the light:

"Why brought ye us from bondage,

“Our loved Egyptian night?”

Take up the White Man’s burden-

Have done with childish days-

The lightly proffered laurel,

The easy, ungrudged praise.

Comes now, to search your manhood

Through all the thankless years,

Cold-edged with dear-bought wisdom,

The judgment of your peers!

36 posted on 06/22/2006 1:44:05 PM PDT by Dosa26
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To: SirLinksalot

Bad governments are notorious for performing tasks they shouldn't (education, healthcare) and not performing tasks they should (national defense, crime prevention and prosecution).


37 posted on 06/22/2006 1:52:27 PM PDT by winner3000
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To: SirLinksalot
"Demonstrators, who said the 51 murders and 151 rapes recorded daily were unacceptably high, were responding to the safety and security minister, Charles Nqakula, who told parliament this month that those who complained about crime were unpatriotic moaners."

Nagin called in the National Guard when he had 54 murders in the city of New Orleans and more than half the people have left the city. I wonder what these places have in common?

38 posted on 06/22/2006 2:03:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: stevio

Crime was sky high in the apartheid era.The difference now is that that are quite a few more white victims than before and thats why there is such a big fuss.
As long as murder and mayhem were confined to the townships,no one really cared that much.


39 posted on 06/22/2006 2:09:24 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: BooksForTheRight.com

"Proves you can't impose civilization on savages"
So you oppose our efforts to do that in Iraq?


40 posted on 06/22/2006 2:12:58 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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