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Report: WMDs Found (Why isn't this headline everywhere?!?)
FoxNews ^ | 6/22/06 | FoxNews

Posted on 06/22/2006 10:13:49 AM PDT by teddyballgame

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To: teddyballgame
Russian, Chinese, and French fingerprints? Spooked Republicans? Ignoring Drive-By-Media?

All of the above.

I really wish Republicans would stop being so spineless.

81 posted on 06/22/2006 11:32:21 AM PDT by Hillsdale Guy
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To: muawiyah
Besides, they're duds

Which could still leak their deadly material all over the place. Isn't that what the environmentalists (liberals) were worried about when we wanted to store spent shells in Colorado?

82 posted on 06/22/2006 11:33:37 AM PDT by Hillsdale Guy
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To: elhombrelibre
Well, the National Research Council seems to think that the U.S. stockpile of Agent GB (sarin) from the 1950s is degraded and decomposed, so I think I'll just rely on their expertise. Thank you.
83 posted on 06/22/2006 11:36:38 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: teddyballgame

Is it at AP? No. Why is that? Probably because the admin hasn't made an announcement that would create a news report they couldn't avoid. Even if it hits AP doesn't mean CNN will carry it but by it NOT being at AP, CNN has a way out for not covering a Fox generated story.

So the root cause is this WH admin has not made this a big deal for whatever reason. Ask Bush.


84 posted on 06/22/2006 11:38:16 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: teddyballgame

The fact is, Iraq was supposed to acknowledge and turn over all WMD according to UN resolutions. The fact that they had these shells is itself a violation--makes no diference when they were manufactured.

500 is not an insignificant number of chemical shells.

Part of the problem stems from the misunderstanding of those in the media of what WMD "stockpiles" might look like. I get the impression that they were looking for acres and acres of 55 gallon drums stenciled with the Skull and Crossbones.

The fact is, you can put enough sarin in a 2-car garage to cover the eastern seaboard. And biological agents take up even less room.


85 posted on 06/22/2006 11:40:53 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: AntiGuv
What are you talking about? Most of the U.S. stockpile of nerve agent munitions (both VX and GB) has been obsolete for quite some while.

The military considers M-3 grease guns obsolete, too. But they still work.

And, fwiw, I saw drums of toxic chemical stored in weapons bunker in Iraq. It may have been old and 'obsolete' but it was still toxic.

86 posted on 06/22/2006 11:41:39 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: AntiGuv
Keep in mind, too, that this is what's been declassified. What's classified is probably much worse. And to suggest that these rounds were not dangerous makes one wonder why was the finding classified and why is DoD worried about terrorists acquiring them.
87 posted on 06/22/2006 11:41:53 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (The MSM is "the propaganda arm of our enemies." - Jack Kelly)
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To: teddyballgame

It's already been said by the likes of Rev. Al Sharpton that this could be a "campaign" ploy of Sen. Santorum because he is in a tough re-election campaign.

We'll just have to get the word out best we can with the help of Rush, Sean, Michael Savage, Mike Reagan, Billy O', and even Tucker Carlson who, I think, mentioned it on his show last night.


88 posted on 06/22/2006 11:44:57 AM PDT by no dems ("Mr. President: Put up that wall.")
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To: elhombrelibre

Well, if the administration has further evidence of WMDs in Iraq then I certainly think they should declassify that immediately, at least so far as announcing what it is (if not where, etc). Otherwise, it's worth noting that IEDs with old chemical munitions have already been discovered in Iraq, and unsurprisingly they didn't work. In fact, I would personally encourage the insurgents in Iraq to use old pre-1991 chemical munitions for all their IEDs, rather than what they're typically using now..


89 posted on 06/22/2006 11:48:47 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: AntiGuv
You're confusing the word "degraded" to mean that these items are not dangerous. People who work around these things must wear butyl rubber and self-contained breathing apparatuses. If that's your idea of not too dangerous, then fine. In fact, degraded rounds, leakers for example, are far more dangerous.
90 posted on 06/22/2006 11:51:23 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (The MSM is "the propaganda arm of our enemies." - Jack Kelly)
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To: elhombrelibre
May 17, 2004: Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq

A roadside bomb containing sarin nerve agent recently exploded near a U.S. military convoy, the U.S. military said Monday.

91 posted on 06/22/2006 11:51:31 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: teddyballgame

[Theories?]

The MSM never lets fact get in the way of leftwing propandga.


92 posted on 06/22/2006 11:54:00 AM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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To: AntiGuv

Yeah, sure, I know about this. So 499 more of these things found means nothing? And just because they didn't burst the round and get a toxic spray with that round you think the other ones found wouldn't be a problem? Why, if they're no biggie, bother gathering them up? Why not just give them to the terrorists as you so cavalierly suggest?


93 posted on 06/22/2006 11:55:02 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (The MSM is "the propaganda arm of our enemies." - Jack Kelly)
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To: All

FYI
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1653841/posts


94 posted on 06/22/2006 11:55:51 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry (The right wants victory, the left wants surrender. It's that simple.)
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(Why isn't this headline everywhere?!?)
You mean to tell me there are people on her who still thinks the truth matteres anymore ? The dumbed down US population feeds off of the MSM and believes whatever they are told. Those of us who actually follow world events and READ are a shrinking minority .The media runs the world PERIOD !


95 posted on 06/22/2006 11:55:59 AM PDT by Tiberius109
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To: elhombrelibre
Why not just give them to the terrorists as you so cavalierly suggest?

Because the terrorists would not use them in place of what they're using now, but rather in additon to what they're using now. These are not tough questions to figure out if you apply a bit of thought.. Anyhow, if the terrorists would use them in place of what they're using now, then I would absolutely support giving them the old pre-1991 junk.

96 posted on 06/22/2006 11:57:45 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: elhombrelibre

it is only 500 shells

they are old

they are degraded

it is only 90% effective


and the liberals claim Bush is the one always moving the goal post on Iraq....


97 posted on 06/22/2006 11:58:28 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: AntiGuv

Yeah, and you've ridden in how many convoys in Iraq?


98 posted on 06/22/2006 11:58:57 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (The MSM is "the propaganda arm of our enemies." - Jack Kelly)
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To: AntiGuv

What makes you think that the " old pre-1991 junk" is inoperable and safe?

Would you handle those devices?


99 posted on 06/22/2006 11:59:49 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: edzo4

I've a degraded and old knife too that will cut in a deadly manner. Don't you just hate arguing with these people who refuse to understand?


100 posted on 06/22/2006 12:00:29 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (The MSM is "the propaganda arm of our enemies." - Jack Kelly)
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