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In spite of her "self-destruct" lead, Buckingham makes a better case why the NYT should be prosecuted.
1 posted on 06/27/2006 6:34:14 AM PDT by cloud8
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2 posted on 06/27/2006 6:37:06 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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Are not the LA and NY Times publicly traded stocks? Are there not laws which make it illegal for a company to actively work against the best interests of its stock holders? Has not the personal bias of those high up in both organizations driven down the value of the stocks and thus work at odds against those who finance the organizations? I say stock holders should sue to recoup their losses caused by those who hold their personal biases in higher regard than the welfare of the stock holders.


3 posted on 06/27/2006 6:37:56 AM PDT by Socratic ("I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa.")
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I agree. She started out like it was all politics and about elections but she shifted gears pretty quickly. However, she should update herself on this:

I’ve no doubt most Americans respect Murtha’s valor in Vietnam.

Murtha was a glorified clerk in search of a wound and a militarty legacy for his political future, just like Kerry and Gore.

4 posted on 06/27/2006 6:42:20 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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Time to put the NY Times on the terrorist watch list.


10 posted on 06/27/2006 6:50:19 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals -- regardless of party.)
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We are more in danger today because The New York Times and other outlets disclosed that American intelligence has access to foreign banking transactions.

I smell a bumper sticker:

Has the New York Times Made You More Safe?

12 posted on 06/27/2006 6:52:19 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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18 posted on 06/27/2006 7:09:26 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The media and the democrats are the biggest supporters of the terrorists.)
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The New York Times has lots of dirty laundry, especially in their history of "Pulitzer" winners. The case of Walter Duranty covering Stalin comes to mind. To my knowledge, Pinch still hasn't revoked the Pulitzer, even after NYT acknowledged it was a mistake and with much public pressure.

http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/2003/270302.shtml

PARSIPPANY, N.J. - From North America to Russia, from India to Argentina, in newspapers and magazines, on radio and television, and online in various publications and discussion groups, the case of Walter Duranty continues to be in the headlines.

The Chicago Tribune of June 25, published a story by Senior Correspondent Charles Leroux, who reported that "In 1932, the Pulitzer Prize went to a foreign correspondent who concealed a famine and the deaths of millions. Ukrainians want that prize revoked."

Headlined "Bearing witness," the story focuses on one survivor of the Great Famine, Anatole Kolomayets of Chicago, and his reaction to the Duranty debacle. "He does not belong with the honest men. It [awarding the prize to Duranty] was shameful," Mr. Kolomayets told the Tribune.

Mr. Leroux wrote that "Duranty had made a deal with what turned out to be the devil. In 1929, an exclusive interview with Stalin secured him tremendous influence in his profession. ... In exchange for continued precious access to the Kremlin, he agreed to report favorably on Stalin's plan to raise industrial and agricultural productivity and the standard of living for citizens of the USSR."


19 posted on 06/27/2006 7:10:03 AM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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while I agree that the times should be shut down and it's editors put on trial for treason..

anyone who didn't know before this that government monitors everything electronic is naive.
20 posted on 06/27/2006 7:13:23 AM PDT by conservative physics (only a liberal could think boys with energy are mental, but boys attracted to other boys are normal)
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Too bad for the Democraps that they hate GW so much. A Democrap candidate for President could innoculate himself/herself from the label of being weak on national security by pushing for and getting prosecution of the NYT and involved people under 18 USC 798. It would be an "only Nixon can go to China" incident. Won't happen, though -- their hatred of GW simply runs too deep to do something like that because it would be supportive of GW's position on the issue.


21 posted on 06/27/2006 7:14:50 AM PDT by piytar
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Ms. Buckingham hit the nail on the head. The heinous acts that Jack Murtha and the New York Times committed are beyond redemption.

The self destruction of the Times will have to slowly take its course but all of us can help in the self destruction of Murtha by supporting Diana Irey who will unseat him come November.

http://www.irey.com/


23 posted on 06/27/2006 7:30:35 AM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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Realistically, does anyone believe that the NYT will ever be prosecuted and if so, due to the First Amendment, will it ever fly?

I'd really like some feedback on this.


24 posted on 06/27/2006 7:35:08 AM PDT by no dems ("Mr. President: Put up that wall.")
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"In spite of her "self-destruct" lead, Buckingham makes a better case why the NYT should be prosecuted."

Actually, she does just the opposite. She makes the case why the NYT should not be prosecuted. If the NYT is prosecuted, the NYT and the left will change the subject to protection of the 1st amendment and "Bush is engaging in one more step to take away our privacy and free press (i.e., fascism)." She makes the case that it may be better to just let the NYT self-destruct to keep the left from trying to paint Bush as taking away constitutional rights in the name of fighting terrorism.

She has a point. I have been for prosecuting the NYT, but a better strategy (to keep from playing into the hands of the left) may be to let them self-destruct and prove its irrelevance.
27 posted on 06/27/2006 7:58:14 AM PDT by Hendrix
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BTTT


43 posted on 06/27/2006 8:13:30 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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The more I hear about this "Times" disclosure the more I am unimpressed.

1st of all, the President said he would use all means to get at the terrorists; financial, telephonic, electronic, foreign assistance....

It was disclosed from DAY 1!

NSA, financial tracking....this is not NEWS!

What it is I have not figured out, except that it is PRETENSE. And, again, I do not know why!


44 posted on 06/27/2006 8:18:29 PM PDT by Prost1 (We can build a wall, we can evict - "Si, se puede!")
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Oh, 1 correction....

One reason is to MISLEAD!

You tell the enemy that your efforts have been harmed so that you disclose efforts that have minimal effectiveness thereby leading your enemy into a sense of comfort and making a fresh mistake.

It is all a Chess game.
45 posted on 06/27/2006 8:22:06 PM PDT by Prost1 (We can build a wall, we can evict - "Si, se puede!")
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