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Teen sues district after "Ave Maria" silenced
Seattle Times ^ | Saturday, July 1, 2006 | David Bowermaster

Posted on 07/01/2006 5:27:12 AM PDT by DogBarkTree

For years, seniors in the wind ensemble at Henry M. Jackson High School have selected a favorite piece of music to play during commencement.

For last month's ceremonies, the 17 students chose an instrumental version of "Ave Maria," which they had performed at a school concert in December 2004.

But their choice was vetoed by Dr. Carol Whitehead, superintendent of the Everett School District. Instead, the ensemble played a selection by British composer Gustav Holst.

Now Kathryn Nurre, an 18-year-old who played alto saxophone in the ensemble before graduating, is suing Whitehead, claiming the decision violated her First Amendment right to freedom of speech. She believes "Ave Maria" was nixed by Whitehead because she felt the song was too religious for a school-sanctioned event.

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I will admit that Im not exactly what one would call a church person but at some point this BS has to stop.>

[Kathryn Nurre, with parents Patrick and Vicki Nurre, was told the wind ensemble couldn't play "Ave Maria" at graduation. Kathryn Nurre is suing the Everett School District as well as Superintendent Carol Whitehead for banning "Ave Maria" from the students' commencement.]

1 posted on 07/01/2006 5:27:15 AM PDT by DogBarkTree
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To: DogBarkTree
Socialism is just grand.

And the reason liberals are so upset about religion is that the only god they worship is the god of the state. They hate competition.

2 posted on 07/01/2006 5:31:44 AM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: DogBarkTree
It seems to me that because Kathryn Nurre is a Child of God, she shouldn't be allowed to attend school at all.   /sarc

Bless you, Kathryn, for your courage!

3 posted on 07/01/2006 5:32:38 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Wonderful Troops.)
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To: DogBarkTree

Atheism is a hard core religion. And it's believers are just as bad as those of Islam in trying to impose it on everyone.


4 posted on 07/01/2006 5:36:07 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: jigsaw
It seems to me that because Kathryn Nurre is a Child of God, she shouldn't be allowed to attend school at all. Ê /sarc

You know the "tolerant" leftists are busy working on the concept of re-education camps.

5 posted on 07/01/2006 5:37:13 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: jigsaw

Several instrumental versions of Ave Maria exist, which are all considered as "classical music", by classical composers.

There are also several complete masses composed by classical composers.

Normally these are treated as classical music, composed around a theme, and enjoyed because they show either the ability of the composer or the dexterity of the musician. Listening to them is not considered a "religious service" nor is the concert hall
considered to be a church. (When Leonard Bernstein conducted the NY symphony playing one of these masses, he was not presiding at a religious service.)

But if you are to ban all music which has been composed around any religious theme, then you are going to have to ban at least half of the classical body of music, and much that is more modern.

Are we only going to be allowed to have music about the planets?


6 posted on 07/01/2006 5:40:37 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: DogBarkTree

That is flipping ridiculous. My daughter is in the orchestra at the local public high school. During the spring concert the orchestra organized themselves into quartets and duets and chose a piece of music to play. Two girls, one a harpist and one a flute player, did Schubert's "Ave Maria", and did it beautifully. It had a special impact on me because that piece had been my mother's favorite and I hadn't listened to it since her funeral 12 year ago. To think that such a magnificent piece would be banned because of some religious connection is absolutely obscene.


7 posted on 07/01/2006 5:40:54 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Everyone knows that high school students playing the instrumental version of Ave Maria is no different than Congress establishing a religion.

The first amendment guarantees us freedom from religion, dammit! Yes, I know the first amendment says that Congress shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise (of religion) thereof -- but hey, free exercise is actually .... establishing a religion! Can't have that.

8 posted on 07/01/2006 5:45:04 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: DogBarkTree

Wow. How insane. Ave Maria is a beautiful work. If it's being done instrumentally what's the beef? And if it's being sung it's in Latin fer heaven's sake!

This wacko educrat is the same sort of idiot who thinks that letting little boys play "cowboys and indians" will turn them into murdering racists as adults. A complete fool and unfit to teach or administrate a school.


9 posted on 07/01/2006 5:46:35 AM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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But if you are to ban all music which has been composed around any religious theme, then you are going to have to ban at least half of the classical body of music, and much that is more modern.

Sort of a State Approved Music List. The Authorities can dig up one of the old lists from the USSR and save the effort of having to make a new one.

And what about the art department and all those pix of church commissioned artwork done by da Vinci, et al?

/s

10 posted on 07/01/2006 5:50:53 AM PDT by elli1
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To: Reactionary

And the reason liberals are so upset about religion is that the only god they worship is the god of the state. They hate competition.

@@@@@

This is the point that we need to use to counteract the "separation" folks. They are actively supporting their religion, when they permit "no other Gods" before them. The first amendment specifically disallows this.


11 posted on 07/01/2006 5:50:57 AM PDT by maica (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle --Abraham Lincoln)
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To: DogBarkTree

The kid should have claimed that it was from "wiccan" ceremonies.Then she would have been applauded.


12 posted on 07/01/2006 5:57:28 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Seruzawa

Anyone that bans music written by Franz Schubert is either a dodo head or a nitwit. Take your pick.


13 posted on 07/01/2006 6:00:24 AM PDT by Rock N Jones
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To: DogBarkTree

"Kathryn Nurre, with parents Patrick and Vicki Nurre,..."



Well, there's the other big problem. Her parents are married, there is no hyphen in the mother's name, which gives a sense of strong family unity. Another thing libs can't tolerate. All this on top of a the daughter being a talented musician instead of a dope smoking, hell raising, knuckle dragging little communist as the school taught her to be.


"I will admit that Im not exactly what one would call a church person but at some point this BS has to stop."

What a great line.


14 posted on 07/01/2006 6:00:50 AM PDT by HighWheeler (Look at and listen to liberal women - it's no wonder so many liberal men choose to be gay.)
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To: CondorFlight

Bump


15 posted on 07/01/2006 6:01:15 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: sitetest

pong


16 posted on 07/01/2006 6:01:52 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Rock N Jones

Superintendent Dodo Head is my pick.


17 posted on 07/01/2006 6:06:13 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: DogBarkTree
Pie Jesu!
18 posted on 07/01/2006 6:08:19 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: DogBarkTree

Ave Maria ~ what a gorgeous, dignified background for a commencement.

Lofty, inspiring, achingly beautiful ~ Soulful, selfless and sweet.

If "commencement" implies a new beginning, this song is such a promise.


19 posted on 07/01/2006 6:10:24 AM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: DogBarkTree
Now you can't even have an instrumental version of a song that once related to God? Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
20 posted on 07/01/2006 6:12:52 AM PDT by Sender ("Why, by God, I actually pity those poor sons-of-b*tches we're going up against. By God, I do".)
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