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Law targets those with unearned military medals (Stolen Valor Act)(MUST READ)
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | 7-2-06 | Jason Cato

Posted on 07/02/2006 9:19:26 AM PDT by smoothsailing

 

Law targets those with unearned military medals

By Jason Cato

TRIBUNE-REVIEW

Sunday, July 2, 2006

Marine majors have accomplished plenty in the Corps' 230-year history, but tales from "The Terminator" just didn't add up.

He'd been a SEAL, a sniper and a pilot. His stories were larger than life, and no one at the Soldiers & Sailors National Military Museum and Memorial in Oakland believed him. But it was the Navy Cross pinned to his dress blues that proved too much to stomach.

"He had more battle activity than eight guys together," Ron Gancas, museum president, said about John Eastman, who faces federal charges of impersonating a military officer. "Why he picked this place to B.S. I don't know. Everybody was in the military here."

Eastman, 58, of New Galilee, Beaver County, is accused of falsely wearing a major's insignia at a Veteran's Day function in 2004. He was indicted this year and, if convicted, would face a maximum penalty of six months in prison and a $5,000 fine.

If his outcome is anything like that of another imposter prosecuted this year in Pittsburgh, jail time is unlikely. Albert McKelvey, 68, of Richland, faked being a Marine colonel, presenting neatly folded flags to widows at funerals and delivering inspirational speeches to veterans groups. He paid for his transgressions with a $2,500 fine and probation.

A bill -- the Stolen Valor Act -- making its way through Congress would increase the penalties for imposters and help prosecutors go after phonies....

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 109th; baghdadmurtha; hanoijohnny; kerryslaw; stolenvalor
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To: smoothsailing

Two words -- John Kerry


41 posted on 07/02/2006 5:37:52 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: river rat

“Usually, a few minutes of conversation and a few pointed specific questions and the poseurs are quickly unmasked..”

Man, have you got that right. I remember when I first reported aboard, a (future) buddy telling me that after awhile you could immediately spot somebody that had never been on a ship before. Just by watching for a few minutes.

That statement stuck to me, finding it an applicable BS indicator through other circumstances in my life.

”I ran into so many "Rambos" and "Terminators" at those type venues -- I stopped going...”

I never even bothered to join – after I got back I just wanted to forget he whole d*mn thang and get on with my life.


42 posted on 07/02/2006 6:06:11 PM PDT by FMBass (“Now that I’m sober I watch a lot of news” – Garofalo: From “Treason” by Coulter)
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To: smoothsailing
I had one heck of a time getting on
WOW
Now I'm here.I guess I will piss some off on the left.
43 posted on 07/02/2006 7:54:16 PM PDT by USN SIGNL MAN
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To: smoothsailing
From river rat:

couldn't agree with you more. I've had the pleasure of busting two frauds at my VFW. I've never seen them walk through the door since.
In Brotherhood,
To Rat:
I did the same thing. Now the fakes run because of our group of veterans will embarase you bad if you are a fake. I am just a regular guy who didn't get a purple heart or silver star. I tell everyone I was just a guy doing what he had to do. I am also member of the VFW and see no reason to brag:
We have a sign-----
It is not the price you paid to join but the price you paid to be eligible
To fellow NAM VETS ----- WELCOME HOME BROTHER
44 posted on 07/02/2006 8:09:13 PM PDT by USN SIGNL MAN
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To: USN SIGNL MAN; Coop; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; freema; Just A Nobody; SandRat; river rat; ...
Well, I'm glad it all worked out.

Some simple guidelines:

Never use any word you couldn't say to your mother's face.

If you know someone by their real name, never say it.

Use their screen name, in my case, smoothsailing, although some of my friends here just call me smooth, or ss.

Never give out info that you don't want the enemy to see.

LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS

And last but never least,

WELCOME ABOARD!!!!!


45 posted on 07/02/2006 8:21:43 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Support The Troops-Support The Mission--Please Visit http://www.irey.com--&--Vets4Irey.com)
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To: smoothsailing; All

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The Words:

http://www.Freerepublic.com/~ALOHARONNIE



The Pictures:

http://www.Freerepublic.com/~JLO







MEL's -PASSION- sparked by -WE WERE SOLDIERS-

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1085111/posts


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46 posted on 07/02/2006 8:40:00 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; USN SIGNL MAN
Thanks AR!

I'm pinging this to USN SIGNL MAN, he's our new brother on board, and a PROUD VIETNAM VET, just like you and me.

(USN SIGNL MAN, check post #46, he's one of the good guys, I would trust him with my life)

47 posted on 07/02/2006 8:53:29 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Support The Troops-Support The Mission--Please Visit http://www.irey.com--&--Vets4Irey.com)
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To: USN SIGNL MAN; smoothsailing

Welcome Bump.


48 posted on 07/02/2006 8:55:31 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: USN SIGNL MAN

Welcome aboard, and welcome home!


49 posted on 07/02/2006 8:57:40 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: JLO; smoothsailing; USN SIGNL MAN

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Thank you for your outstanding JLO Freeper Home Page Pictures that help bring our 'Liberty and Justice for All' message out there.


ARMY SIGNL MAN Ronnie Guyer
HHC, 1/7th Cavalry 1965-66


50 posted on 07/02/2006 9:06:08 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: smoothsailing

related

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1560750/posts
Stolen Valor Act of 2005


51 posted on 07/02/2006 9:31:01 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: smoothsailing; USN SIGNL MAN

Welcome!


52 posted on 07/03/2006 3:19:13 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: PhilipFreneau
…and the Good Conduct (which everyone received who didn't kill the general).

I always refer to it as the “I didn’t get caught” medal.
53 posted on 07/03/2006 3:23:06 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Old Student

Thanks for the kind words.

My lack of coffee is often expressed via errors with the keyboard.

The thoughts are there. I have to work to get them out.

I have been watching and monitoring liberals for 16 more years than you have, and that should give me a little advantage re predicting what they will do in certain situations.


54 posted on 07/04/2006 10:34:33 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic Lies posing as journalism)
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To: All
I have a question for the libertarians who believe a flag-desecration amendment would be a loathsome blight on their first amendment freedoms. How is a "stolen honor" law any different if the phony soldier is wearing medals that he purchased with his own money? Why can he not assert that he has a right to express himself anyone way he wants, by wearing any piece of cloth and brass or silver on his chest that he has purchased with his own money?

Don't tell me it's because it targets fraud. Fraud is deliberate falsehood for the purpose of persuading an innocent person to give their money of other property to the defrauder. However dishonest and vile it is to hold oneself out as having earned a military medal or decoration that one did not in fact earn, it is not fraud unless it is done for the purpose of obtaining money or property. Then it is already unlawful; the phony medal or other honor was just the mechanism for carrying out the fraud.

Don't get me wrong. I'm pleased this law is on the books. I also think a flag desecration amendment would be perfectly fine. In both cases, the offender is dishonoring the honorable by their actions.

55 posted on 07/04/2006 10:49:22 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: smoothsailing
That would be great. Then guys like Kerry and Murtha would be scrutinized closer. Maybe they should spend a few days in the cooler, eh?
56 posted on 07/04/2006 10:56:09 AM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Grampa Dave
Happy Independence Day, Dave!

Sad to say that at the parade we have here, there'll be phonies interspersed in the crowd. Usually only takes a minute or two to ID them. Wannabe Rambos and Commandos whose stories, unit assignments, campaigns conflict with the historical record.

Once asked a bogus former SEAL to tell me what SERE and 'seer' meant. Ahh......the 'far away' look in his eyes.
57 posted on 07/04/2006 11:14:41 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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