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Apocalyptic signals from Iran worry U.S. intelligence
Geostrategy-Direct ^ | 7-7-2006 | Geostrategy-Direct

Posted on 07/07/2006 7:20:30 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon

The U.S. intelligence community has not been surprised by Iran's refusal to respond to a Western incentive package to suspend its uranium enrichment. Intelligence sources said Iran, following North Korea's model, intends to delay any response or negotiations for as long as possible.

The European Union and the United States demanded that Iran reply to the Western incentive package of nuclear technology, fuel and aircraft by June 29. But Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said Teheran would submit an answer by Aug. 22.

The U.S. intelligence community has been trying to figure out why Ahmadinejad chose that date. Sources said the community was stumped until some Islam experts translated the Gregorian date to that of the Muslim calendar.

Then came the surprise that has the intelligence community worried.

Aug. 22 corresponds to Rajab 27 on the Muslim calendar. The date is called Lailat Al Israa, when Mohammed ascended to heaven from the Al Aqsa mosque to receive the five daily prayers. Later, Al Aqsa came to represent Jerusalem.

The Muslim commemoration is meant to be a night of struggle, accompanied by thunder and lightening, resembling the story of Moses ascending Mount Sinai to receive the Old Testament.


Ahmadinejad could be hinting to the West that he is preparing a major attack on Israel. Or, the Iranian president could be warning that unless the West caves in, he would escalate tension in the region. The lightening in Mohammed's story could represent Iranian missiles.

What is clear is that Ahmadinejad does not see himself as an Iranian leader, but a Muslim prophet, using imagery to portray himself as a messiah for both Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; august22; geopolitics; globaljihad; iran; islam; jihad; nuke; proliferation; terrorism; terrorists; ww3
More of the angle the MSM loathe to even think about covering.

But thats right... George Bush is the greatest threat to the world... right Murtha?

1 posted on 07/07/2006 7:20:34 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon
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To: FreedomNeocon
"I LOVE THE SMELL OF NAPALM IN THE MORNING....."


2 posted on 07/07/2006 7:24:12 AM PDT by Fighting Irish (Ever find yourself posting messages just to show off your taglines?)
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To: FreedomNeocon
More info here: Imam Mahdi Forum
3 posted on 07/07/2006 7:25:22 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: FreedomNeocon
No problem.   The ACLU will soon sue Ahmadinejad to separate church and state.
4 posted on 07/07/2006 7:25:36 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Wonderful Troops.)
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To: FreedomNeocon

It is about time we send Ahmadinejad to talk with allah in person...


5 posted on 07/07/2006 7:27:02 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: FreedomNeocon
From a current thread on Iraq:

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned on Friday that continued Israeli strikes against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip could lead to an "explosion" in the Islamic world that would target Israel and its supporters in the West.

According to Muslim tradition, a warning must be issued. Perhaps a coincidence, perhaps not.

6 posted on 07/07/2006 7:31:04 AM PDT by MountainMenace (E Pluribus Unum! An oxymoron for liberals.)
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To: FreedomNeocon

And everyone here in the USA is worried about the Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. Geez.


7 posted on 07/07/2006 7:31:48 AM PDT by newconhere (bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. zap)
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To: Cindy; backhoe

Disturbing ping


8 posted on 07/07/2006 7:51:21 AM PDT by Darnright (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: JustPiper

ping


9 posted on 07/07/2006 7:51:50 AM PDT by Darnright (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: 2banana

Possibly a certain Mr. Barrett could facilitate that..


10 posted on 07/07/2006 7:53:58 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: FreedomNeocon
Teheran would submit an answer by Aug. 22. The U.S. intelligence community has been trying to figure out why Ahmadinejad chose that date

22 Aug is the date of primary elections in Alaska. That is probably why Iammadjohn chose that date.

11 posted on 07/07/2006 7:55:44 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: FreedomNeocon
What is clear is that Ahmadinejad does not see himself as an Iranian leader, but a Muslim prophet

And Saddam thought he was Nebuchadnezzar reincarnated but that didn't keep him from getting his head checked unceremoniously for lice.

12 posted on 07/07/2006 7:56:15 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: FreedomNeocon

What is disturbing is that it took our intel people sooooooo long to figure out what is turning the pedals of this guy's bicycle, especially since he has been spewing this stuff out all along. Within that interpretation, I'd be concerned about Aug 22 too, especially with the increase in military exercises by Iran.


13 posted on 07/07/2006 7:56:23 AM PDT by Godzilla (Evil can be defeated when the good are unafraid.)
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To: FreedomNeocon

Ahmadinejad is a former soccer player. It's known that soccer players experience some degree of brain injury from repeated blows to the head.


14 posted on 07/07/2006 7:56:55 AM PDT by Tax Government (Defeat the evil miscreant donkeys and their rhino lackeys.)
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Comment #15 Removed by Moderator

To: Cindy; nwctwx; Velveeta

ping


16 posted on 07/07/2006 7:58:47 AM PDT by Godzilla (Evil can be defeated when the good are unafraid.)
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To: callmejoe; Cindy; nwctwx

I found this interesting 'ping'.


17 posted on 07/07/2006 7:59:04 AM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Godzilla

great minds and all that..........LOL


18 posted on 07/07/2006 8:00:29 AM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: FreedomNeocon
...the story of Moses ascending Mount Sinai to receive the Old Testament.

I may be a little slow this morning, but I thought Moses "only" got the Ten Commandments on Mount Sinai, not the whole Old Testament.

19 posted on 07/07/2006 8:09:09 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: FreedomNeocon

bookmark


20 posted on 07/07/2006 8:34:40 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I was going to jump on you till I saw you donated to FR! Now I can't.)
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To: Godzilla; nwctwx; Rushmore Rocks; callmejoe; nw_arizona_granny; Cindy

August 22/23, 1996 was also the date of UBL's fatwa -
Declaration of War Against the United States.

Bin Laden signed it on 8/23 but it would have been the 22nd in this hemisphere.

Coming up on the 10 year anniversary of the fatwa.

USINT needs to read TM if they want to keep up. ;-)


21 posted on 07/07/2006 8:36:14 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta; WestCoastGal; MamaDearest

Thanks Vel.

This is a bit more than disturbing. Too many "coincidences" of timing lately.


22 posted on 07/07/2006 8:56:34 AM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: AmericaUnited

well, Nebuchadnezzar went out of his head for a while
also...no?


23 posted on 07/07/2006 9:46:12 AM PDT by Getready
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To: jigsaw

But Ahmadijehad would separate the ACLU lawyers
heads from their bodies, before he separated church from state.
A fact which the ACLU won't recognize.


24 posted on 07/07/2006 9:51:50 AM PDT by Getready
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To: FreedomNeocon

The devil has a firm grip on that boy.


25 posted on 07/07/2006 10:09:52 AM PDT by winodog (Who will stop Bubba and the Beast in 08?)
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To: Getready

Good points.


26 posted on 07/07/2006 10:23:50 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Wonderful Troops.)
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To: Velveeta

placemark


27 posted on 07/07/2006 10:31:28 AM PDT by fanfan (I wouldn't be so angry with them if they didn't want to kill me!)
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To: MountainMenace
According to Muslim tradition, a warning must be issued. Perhaps a coincidence, perhaps not.

I believe there's more than one warning required. Is this the second warning or third?

28 posted on 07/07/2006 11:00:02 AM PDT by GOPJ (In the future when the war goes badly - Keller (NYT) will be arrested for treason, and executed.)
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To: RightWhale
22 Aug is the date of primary elections in Alaska. That is probably why Iammadjohn chose that date.

Whoa, your comment's out of touch and off base...

29 posted on 07/07/2006 11:02:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (In the future when the war goes badly - Keller (NYT) will be arrested for treason, and executed.)
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To: FreedomNeocon
What is clear is that Ahmadinejad does not see himself as an Iranian leader, but a Muslim prophet, using imagery to portray himself as a messiah for both Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims.

Stinky should have an unfortunate accident.

30 posted on 07/07/2006 11:43:56 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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To: DuncanWaring
I thought Moses "only" got the Ten Commandments on Mount Sinai, not the whole Old Testament.

LOL. The guy thinks that God wrote the OT ahead of the books after Exodus.

31 posted on 07/07/2006 11:50:50 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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To: Mike Darancette

attack Israel at your own risk fella............

they ain't gonna shoot back with water pistols, LOL


32 posted on 07/07/2006 11:53:51 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: RightWhale

My comment #29 was a joke on your tag...


33 posted on 07/07/2006 11:58:50 AM PDT by GOPJ (In the future when the war goes badly - Keller (NYT) will be arrested for treason, and executed.)
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To: GOPJ

Seems rather non-stop to me. It's hard to keep count.


34 posted on 07/07/2006 12:42:49 PM PDT by MountainMenace (E Pluribus Unum! An oxymoron for liberals.)
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To: Fighting Irish
"I LOVE THE SMELL OF NAPALM IN THE MORNING....."

Unfortunately, I don't think we use napalm anymore. It was deemed too horrific and inhumane by the "politically correct" crowd.

It is a hell of a note that we fight with our hands tied behind our backs. I think it would be very useful in rooting the Taliban out of caves in Afghanistan.

35 posted on 07/07/2006 12:58:12 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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To: FreedomNeocon; All

ON THE NET...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1659022/posts?page=357#357
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1659022/posts?page=358#358


36 posted on 07/07/2006 2:04:09 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: MountainMenace
Seems rather non-stop to me. It's hard to keep count.

Yeah, you're right. It is hard to keep track of how many threats are in each category. What a crazy world we live in...

37 posted on 07/07/2006 9:06:20 PM PDT by GOPJ (In the future when the war goes badly - Keller (NYT) will be arrested for treason, and executed.)
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To: Velveeta

Thinks for the reminder of the 1996 threat.


38 posted on 07/08/2006 5:09:22 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (++Did you hug your loved ones today? Do it 3 times each, and Thank God, you have them.)
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To: Godzilla; Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; ..
What is disturbing is that it took our intel people sooooooo long

More disturbing is that some Freepers accept as fact the premise that our "intelligence community" is always clueless.

39 posted on 07/08/2006 5:23:51 AM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: ASA Vet
More disturbing is that SOME Freepers accept as fact the premise that our "intelligence community" is always clueless.

Make that, "MOST Freepers", and it's more accurate. Because AS WE ALL KNOW, only Spec Ops are REAL soldiers, right, FReepers?

40 posted on 07/08/2006 5:33:49 AM PDT by Old Sarge
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To: ASA Vet; Old Sarge; BIGLOOK

Most of those, who condemn our MI, wouldn't qualify re personal IQ's and a thorough back ground check. So they sit back and arm chair quarterback people who do qualify.


41 posted on 07/08/2006 6:00:34 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic Lies posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK

Or they write the ROE...


42 posted on 07/08/2006 6:07:29 AM PDT by Old Sarge
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To: Old Sarge

Or they write bs articles like this one of course with the unknown/undisclosed MI expert.


43 posted on 07/08/2006 6:22:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic Lies posing as journalism)
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To: ASA Vet

I understand where the criticism comes from, more often than not we are not precisely, exactly right. We present the warfighter with an analysis which is an intelligent approximation or assessment of the information we can gather and disseminate in a time period that fits the mission's requirements. What many forget, yet they know it to be true and use it to explain their own operational difficulties, is that every battlefield is fluid and no mission goes according to plan. It's very easy to blame SNAFUs on bad intelligence, when in reality the intel was very good at first engagement, but bullets and bombs always force a change in plans.

The only time a mission is going exactly as planned is when you are about to be ambushed - Murphy's Law of War #2


44 posted on 07/08/2006 1:00:02 PM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: ASA Vet
More disturbing is that some Freepers accept as fact the premise that our "intelligence community" is always clueless.

A lot of people here just don't have a clue, doesn't surprise me.


45 posted on 07/08/2006 3:23:33 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

When the time comes you can rest assured that both Napalm and Cluster Bombs will rain from the sky on our behalf. Political correctness has no hold on munitions, we observe the Geneva Convention and not one inch more.


46 posted on 07/16/2006 3:51:24 PM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: jigsaw
No problem. The ACLU will soon sue Ahmadinejad to separate church and state.

I would pay to watch that.

47 posted on 07/16/2006 3:54:24 PM PDT by stboz
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To: FreedomNeocon

mark for later


48 posted on 07/16/2006 3:56:15 PM PDT by JanetteS (http://CommonSenseRunsWild.com)
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To: FreedomNeocon

I wonder if Mr. Ahmad-madman-ijad walks around with a sign on his back that says "Nuke me now"?


49 posted on 08/08/2006 10:49:46 PM PDT by rdl6989
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