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Egoism at its best.
1 posted on 07/07/2006 12:00:46 PM PDT by siddude
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What a helluva thing to be proud of.

Sheez!


2 posted on 07/07/2006 12:01:35 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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Bill Clinton feels left out. He loathes the past.


3 posted on 07/07/2006 12:01:51 PM PDT by weegee (Seasons greetings and happy holidays this June-July!)
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I wonder if they will offer any thoughts of appreciation to the men who went and died in their place -- that they may have the right to be a coward?

F'em all, including Carter that pardoned them, Clinton that should go to Canada and celebrate with his fellow draft dodgers and Kerry who figured out a Three Purple Heart scam to dodge the war zone in 4 months and build a career telling lies about the war and the men who fought it...

F'em all.

Semper Fi


5 posted on 07/07/2006 12:06:21 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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"I wanted to validate the experience." What an a-hole. He wanted to validate the moment he turned his back on his country, his family and himself.

Sounds like this guy is heavily into great, big rationalizations. He needs'em.


6 posted on 07/07/2006 12:11:14 PM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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8 posted on 07/07/2006 12:13:22 PM PDT by pabianice
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I heard they were having the reunion in B.C. and I thought, "Not far enough. Bomb 'em back to the Stone Age."


10 posted on 07/07/2006 12:15:25 PM PDT by RichInOC (Jane Fonda likes it long and hard. Just ask the Vietnamese Army.)
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What was often described as the "anti-war movement" and "peace movement" during the Vietnam War was actually an anti-draft movement. Upon being discharged from the Marine Corps in 1969 I returned to college and found that most protesters were not really concerned with the ideological or moral issues of the war but simply didn't want to suffer the inconvenience of serving their country for two years. When Nixon instituted the draft lottery and then the all-volunteer army the protests died down proportionately. Later, when Pol Pot and the Khimer Rouge overran Cambodia and slaughtered millions, there was no moral outrage from this peace movement.
13 posted on 07/07/2006 12:25:49 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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I have a cousin among them. He left after graduating college. His father was a career Army officer, serving during three wars.

My cousin was never drafted, so he could freely return to the US, but stayed and changed to a Canadian citizen.

He is about 62 years old today, but intellectually he has not developed beyond 60s hippie anti-war nonsense. He can rant all the predictable left-socialist mantras.

I met and spoke with him five years ago, a few weeks before 9/11/2001. It was disappointing.

At the time I got my draft notice in December 1968 I knew of my cousin in Canada. Unlike him, I reported and served my time. To this day I consider my service as a one of the few but most defining times of a lifetime.

I'll give him one thing. He is a western individualist, making his home in Kelowna, BC. Cold winters with wood burning fires. He is an artist. It is hard to make a good living as an artist, so I expect it is comforting to have socialized medicine, for example.

His son studied business at University of British Columbia, and stayed on to live in Victoria. I can see why somebody would stay in Victoria--nice place.

The son could become a US citizen, as both parents were US citizens at the time of his birth.


14 posted on 07/07/2006 12:28:47 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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They missed a couple of guests to keep with the motif. Of course I'm talking about Chicken Man and Super Chicken.


16 posted on 07/07/2006 12:30:45 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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Maybe they had other priorities.


20 posted on 07/07/2006 12:51:17 PM PDT by Wolfie
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Saw a bumper sticker

"If draft dodgers have reunions
What do they talk about?"

Well, now I know.

(spits, then walks away)


24 posted on 07/07/2006 12:58:07 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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I'm glad someone added the key word "coward." Saved me time and electrons. If these cowards were on fire, I wouldn't walk across the street to pi$$ on them.

Oh, and Mr. Craig Wiester, if you read this post, and are upset about it, then sign up and FReep mail me. I'll be happy to meet you somewhere.

5.56mm

27 posted on 07/07/2006 1:11:10 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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How will you fare, sonny, how will you fare
In the far-off winter night,
When you sit by the fire in an old man's chair
And your neighbours talk of the fight?
Will you slink away, as it were from a blow,
Your old head shamed and bent?
Or say - I was not with the first to go,
But I went, thank God, I went?

Harold Begbie - 1914


29 posted on 07/07/2006 1:18:00 PM PDT by managusta (corruptissima republica plurimae leges)
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I love that area. I lived near Castlegar from 1974-84. It's where I learned to fly and owned some businesses, and where our kids were born. I'd move back in a minute if there were a market for buffoons there.

Well, now that I think of it - and having read this article - maybe it's just that there's no more room for buffoons.

Too bad. I loved it there.

Cheers,
Jim


30 posted on 07/07/2006 1:19:30 PM PDT by gymbeau (Alberta. Bound.)
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The odds of being drafted, being sent to Vietnam, and dying were miniscule. First of all, only a fraction of those eligible for the draft were drafted. Of those drafted, in the Army, only 1 in 13 went into a combat branch, the remainder were combat support and combat service support. Generally in the Air Force and Navy, only pilots were at risk.

But most draftees did not go to Vietnam. They stayed in the US, or went to Europe or Japan. At its peak, only 30% of military personnel were overseas anywhere.

This left a pool of 1 in 13 soldiers and Marines who were the ones supposed to do the fighting. Of those, many were not sent to "hot" or even "medium" combat areas. Certainly there were CS and CSS people who were involved in fighting, but this was infrequent and often just terrorist attacks.

Combat units involved in combat had a limited number of slots available. Any serviceman who wanted to remain with his unit and extend his tour got priority over someone who could have taken his place. Many soldiers and Marines served multiple tours in Vietnam.

In total, in 10 years the US had 52,000 killed. For the first time in history in a major war, just slightly more than 50% were killed in action, rather than died of disease. So 26,000, or an average of 2,600 a year were killed by enemy action or friendly fire.

All told, the propaganda spouted by the MSM and academia at the time was that if young men lost their exemptions, they would be drafted, sent to Vietnam, and die. They succeeded in terrifying the baby boom generation that all was lost unless they actively ended the Vietnam war and abandoned the Vietnamese to communist occupation.

This being said, the Cowards in Canada can also claim that they were also foolish enough to believe the propaganda, so they must also bear the burden of being scorned for their gullibility.

They have no honor, no real country, and deserve no respect.


32 posted on 07/07/2006 1:38:07 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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Will

WINDY SHEEEEEEHAM

be there handing out sugar tits and Kleenex?


33 posted on 07/07/2006 1:38:39 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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Here is a link to the entire program.

Lunch and a Dinner are included.

You gotta wonder; in planning the food, did someone say, "It would probably be best if we left "Chicken" off the menu, eh?"

http://www.ourwayhomereunion.com/program.php

34 posted on 07/07/2006 1:46:47 PM PDT by LZ_Bayonet
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Surprisingly, Joe McDonald, the lead singer of the legendary anti-war rock band Country Joe & The Fish appears to see things differently, although he will appear at the British Columbia event. His band is most famous for the lyrics: “Well, it’s one, two, three what are we fighting for? What it is I don’t give a damn. Next stop is Vietnam….” McDonald told Fox News that while many at the event see a parallel between Vietnam and Iraq, he doesn’t. He said that after 9-11 it’s understandable why we are fighting in Iraq and it hasn’t come to the level of a Vietnam.

Shocking, no?

37 posted on 07/08/2006 7:47:36 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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These people haven't changed in 40 years. They think America deserves to lose - AGAIN.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

39 posted on 11/27/2006 2:20:36 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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