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Broken Borders: Broken Promises (Simcox-Minuteman)
ABC 15 Investigators ^ | 4/27/2006 | Staff

Posted on 07/07/2006 8:58:04 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

Americans are donating thousands of dollars to support Minutemen patrolling the border. But you may be surprised where your money is NOT going in this 4-month investigation.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aliens; corruption; culturekillers; deception; disinformation; fraud; hitpiece; immigrantlist; immigration; lies; mcdc; minuteman; minutemen; moonbatoblers; murthatheminutemen; obljudas; ohplease; openborderliars; propaganda; simcox; wherestheposse
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To: EternalVigilance
EV, I'm going to post one last thing to you, and then we need to part ways......

I'm going to miss you as an ally in the defense of conservativism.......especially in the sanctity of human life.

I'm sorry that something has distorted your view to the point where honest analysis of issues or public figures makes one an enemy, such as my honest questions on this thread have done.

I'm not your enemy.........I never have been, and I never will be.......but you clearly view me as one.........even to the point of casting aspersions on my faith.

It's clear to me from your posts that BDS is not only a disease of the left. We used to be colleages, but the emotional changes in you have made that impossible.

I haven't changed since I joined this forum. I will always ask questions when questions need to be asked, no matter who or what the circumstances. I don't blindly trust anyone........but it's obvious that you do. Simcox needs to open his books..........and IMO, no conservative should be offended by that request, as you have been.

I will miss you. Let me know if you ever become again the person I thought you were so that we can fight for conservative values together again.

1,001 posted on 07/10/2006 7:24:49 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan

I' ve been utterly consistent.

The problem isn't me, ohioWfan, it is you.

In the border debate, you have chosen to side with the Republican hacks whose goal it is to have open borders, whether you will admit it or not.

That choice has consequences, one of which is that in their perpetual flaming of good conservatives, you get caught in the crossfire.

Keep posting on their behalf and you will continue to receive unfriendly posts from those who are trying to get our elected leaders to do their job in this critical area of national security and sovereignty.

I'm very sorry that you can't see this rinky-dink MSM hitpiece on Simcox, and the accompanying leftwing-sourced attacks by those who hate him, for exactly what they are: A Clintonesque exercise in the politics of personal destruction.


1,002 posted on 07/10/2006 10:09:29 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: ohioWfan

Go cry to someone that buys into your delusions.


1,003 posted on 07/10/2006 10:12:07 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Your second sentence is utterly false, making the rest of your post wrong as well.

Your anger and emotionalism has altered your judgement EV.

If you would do what I asked and re-read what I actually posted and see what is there, and not imagined on your part, you would realize how completely off base you are.

If you care about truthfulness, you will do so, and apologize.

My concern is the lack of transparency, stated by Simcox himself. I do not believe anything I see or read in the MSM, and I have drawn no conclusions from this video.

But I have stated that already, and if you would have bothered to read what I said, you would know that.

You're arguing on the basis of supposition based on your feelings, and not actuality based on facts. And that is not a conservative trait.

And in that, you have changed.

1,004 posted on 07/10/2006 10:23:19 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: raybbr
There are no delusions in pointing out that you consistently accuse conservatives wrongly.

But clearly, you have no problem with making repeated false charges, so I'm sure we can expect more of the same in the future.

That's why no serious, honest freeper has any regard for what you post. The ninth commandment apparently means nothing to you.

There may be no consequences to your lies here on this forum, but there are in eternity. It would behoove you to be aware of that fact.

1,005 posted on 07/10/2006 10:29:56 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Texasforever
BS. Look Razor wire is used to prevent prison breaks. It is deadly force and illegal border crossing is not a crime that justifies deadly force. There is no rancher that will allow that fence to be built on his property and Simcox knows that. The legal liability is just too high not to mention that the Border Patrol or the National Guard will demolish the site.

You are clueless when it comes to private property rights.

1,006 posted on 07/10/2006 10:30:43 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: Howlin

Oh I agree with you. I don't take every word the SPLC says as gospel but I find after researching them I find that 90 percents of it is correct If find it interesting that people feel the need to make them the enemy instead of examining what they say and making sure that these kooks that inflitrate the conservative movement and make us look bad are exposed. It is much better when we do it than the left


1,007 posted on 07/10/2006 10:41:06 AM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: ohioWfan

Again, contrary to your incessant posts to the contrary, I haven't changed in the least. My posts are in defense of conservatism and conservatives. Always have been and always will be.

Unfortunately, you've hitched your wagon to the open borders conservative-hating hacks who have infiltrated this site.

This piece, and the accompanying slanders, are not something that any Christian like yourself should be supporting.

I don't think you're a bad person, ohioWfan...I just think you're incredibly naive about the character of these trolls and the interests they represent.


1,008 posted on 07/10/2006 10:43:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Texasforever
Look Razor wire is used to prevent prison breaks. It is deadly force and illegal border crossing is not a crime that justifies deadly force.

I guess I'll go down to all the businesses in Philly that have razor wire around their premises and demand they remove such wire, since burglary doesn't justify deadly force, either.

Where do you come up with this nonsense? It is completely ungrounded in real-world experiences.

1,009 posted on 07/10/2006 10:45:38 AM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: Howlin

Oh I agree with you. I don't take every word the SPLC says as gospel but I find after researching them I find that 90 percents of it is correct If find it interesting that people feel the need to make them the enemy instead of examining what they say and making sure that these kooks that inflitrate the conservative movement and make us look bad are exposed. It is much better when we do it than the left

There you have it folks.

90% in agreement with the communist conman Morris Dees.

1,010 posted on 07/10/2006 10:46:34 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
90% in agreement with the communist conman Morris Dees.

Yep, and more Dems than pubbies on their side as well. You'd think that would make them re-consider their positions posted on a conservative website.

1,011 posted on 07/10/2006 10:48:44 AM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Unfortunately, you've hitched your wagon to the open borders conservative-hating hacks who have infiltrated this site.

Why do you keep saying this when it is absolutely untrue? If you think making false accusations is a Christian trait then you have a very twisted theology. I have never done anything of the sort, and IF YOU READ WHAT I ACTUALLY SAID, you would know it.

My question remains..........why have you changed to the point where truth no longer matters to you?

I don't care if you think I'm naive, but I want you to stop saying things that are utterly false and then distorting it to question my Christianity.

Can you understand that?? Or not??

1,012 posted on 07/10/2006 10:52:19 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance; catholicfreeper
90% in agreement with the communist conman Morris Dees.

Well, I'm amused to see that you believe 90 percent of the things that the SPLC says are FOS.

Just to confirm for the rest of us, are 90 percent of the things that they say about your friend, CAL, a lie, too?

Or are you using situational indignation once again?

1,013 posted on 07/10/2006 10:53:03 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: ohioWfan
Why do you keep saying this when it is absolutely untrue?

Because it makes him feel "special"?

Of course, it takes lie after lie after lie to make him "feel" special now.

1,014 posted on 07/10/2006 10:54:23 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Your post is nonsensical.

Are you now a Morris Dees fan, too?


1,015 posted on 07/10/2006 10:56:02 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Howlin

Ping me when you talk about me. You know the "rules". After all, you whine about that particular one constantly.


1,016 posted on 07/10/2006 10:57:15 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Eternal if it wasn't for people like the SPLC and their exposes I would never had a clue of what this radical group called the Council of Conservative Citizens was up too. I would have no idea at the disturbing elements that are now passed off as mainstream and being interviewed as "conservatives" in the mainstream press.

It was through them that led me to start investigating neo nazi groups like Storm front and how they are showing up at our events. The stuff they say can be easily checked out. All they really do is alert me to a possible problem. They are doing a job that we on the right and conservatives should be doing. That is more actively policing ourselves to make sure that extreme elements and radicals are not using us. If we did that then we would not have these things explode in our face. That is what I am trying to do.We either ferret it out ourselves or the media does it and it then it tars all us conservatives. I don't agree with everything DEES does. I think he obsession with some issues is as stupid as the other side of kookdum. But I just don't ignore everything they say.


1,017 posted on 07/10/2006 10:59:23 AM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: ohioWfan
If you think making false accusations is a Christian trait then you have a very twisted theology.

You're so blinded that you can't see that that is EXACTLY what these people with an agenda are doing right here, right now, to Chris Simcox.

1,018 posted on 07/10/2006 10:59:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Howlin
You gotta watch that 10% it'll get you everytime
1,019 posted on 07/10/2006 11:00:46 AM PDT by deport
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To: EternalVigilance

Oh, I will; just so you do it, too; you're a master at slamming people thinking nobody notices.


1,020 posted on 07/10/2006 11:00:53 AM PDT by Howlin
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