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Court Rules Against Sanitizing Films
AP ^ | Saturday July 8, 9:52 pm

Posted on 07/08/2006 9:24:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Sanitizing movies on DVD or VHS tape violates federal copyright laws, and several companies that scrub films must turn over their inventory to Hollywood studios, an appeals judge ruled.

Editing movies to delete objectionable language, sex and violence is an "illegitimate business" that hurts Hollywood studios and directors who own the movie rights, said U.S. District Judge Richard P. Matsch in a decision released Thursday in Denver.

"Their (studios and directors) objective ... is to stop the infringement because of its irreparable injury to the creative artistic expression in the copyrighted movies," the judge wrote. "There is a public interest in providing such protection."

Matsch ordered the companies named in the suit, including CleanFlicks, Play It Clean Video and CleanFilms, to stop "producing, manufacturing, creating" and renting edited movies. The businesses also must turn over their inventory to the movie studios within five days of the ruling.

"We're disappointed," CleanFlicks chief executive Ray Lines said. "This is a typical case of David vs. Goliath, but in this case, Hollywood rewrote the ending. We're going to continue to fight."

CleanFlicks produces and distributes sanitized copies of Hollywood films on DVD by burning edited versions of movies onto blank discs. The scrubbed films are sold over the Internet and to video stores.

As many as 90 video stores nationwide -- about half of them in Utah -- purchase movies from CleanFlicks, Lines said. It's unclear how the ruling may effect those stores.

The controversy began in 1998 when the owners of Sunrise Family Video began deleting scenes from "Titanic" that showed a naked Kate Winselt.

The scrubbing caused an uproar in Hollywood, resulting in several lawsuits and countersuits.

Directors can feel vindicated by the ruling, said Michael Apted, president of the Director's Guild of America.

"Audiences can now be assured that the films they buy or rent are the vision of the filmmakers who made them and not the arbitrary choices of a third-party editor," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: busybodies; christianmedia; churchlady; cleanflicks; copyright; directorsguild; fairuse; film; hollywood; restrictchoices; richardmatsch; sanitize; secularselfrighteous; unelectedjudges; video
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To: durasell
Yes, but that same person is not allowed to sell those 1,000 copies or distribute them or broadcast them or duplicate them.

Yes, they can. Stores everywhere around the world do the same thing on a daily basis. They buy raw materials, create something from it, then re-sell it. It is a fundemental principle of business.

181 posted on 07/09/2006 12:07:22 AM PDT by killjoy (Dirka dirka mohammed jihad! Sherpa sherpa bakalah!)
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To: Junior
The studios own the movies, not these third-party sanitizers.

Do they own the DVD I just bought at Walmart?

The owner gets to determine what happens to these movies. You can't just take someone else's work, screw around with it, and remarket it.

But can I screw around with a copy I purchased at retail if I don't resell it? Can I pay someone else to screw around with the copy I purchased for me?

182 posted on 07/09/2006 12:07:51 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

The company is profiting off of it. And they don't have the permission to do it. If you do it on your own, that falls under fair use, but you can't go and make changes to copyrighted materials and distribute or sell them. Its a property rights issue.


183 posted on 07/09/2006 12:08:19 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: torchthemummy
Even this article presents some of the facts in a murky manner.

It's a murky question. I think ClearPlay is on more solid legal ground -- all they do is provide information, telling consumers which scenes they might find objectionable. Then they, or someone else, provide hardware that uses that information at the user's request.

184 posted on 07/09/2006 12:08:19 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: NinoFan
IF you are selling a used book in 'as-is' condition you are not attempting to alter the authors intent no matter the condition of the book.
185 posted on 07/09/2006 12:09:14 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: BenLurkin

What they did was illegal. They should have helped their customers procure a new license for every copy they distributed by buying a clean copy each time they sold an edited version. Then it would have probably been legal - they would then be just providing a service for the customer who legally purchased the movie but wanted it edited for their own private purposes.


186 posted on 07/09/2006 12:09:37 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: FreedomCalls
If its being edited it is being altered away from the original without permission from the copyright holder. How hard is it for you to understand that?
187 posted on 07/09/2006 12:09:41 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: killjoy
The censored versions just sat on the shelf... except maybe in Utah. Let Hollywood create two versions of every movie. The full unedited directors cut and the Mormom (dum dum dum dum) version. I know which one I will buy.

And that's the joy of Federalism. You buy the copy you like, let the Mormons buy the copy they like. It doesn't harm you (or the studios either by the way). You don't like their version, they don't like yours. So what? Live and let live.

188 posted on 07/09/2006 12:10:04 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: NinoFan

Nice example. I like it!

Copyright laws exist for the same reason patent laws exist: to protect the work of the individual and the company that risks cash on producing it.


189 posted on 07/09/2006 12:11:58 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
It's not real hard to understand.

 


190 posted on 07/09/2006 12:11:59 AM PDT by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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To: ReignOfError
And you glossed over the main point -- that these edits are published with the permission of the copyright holder.

Ands you missed the point that the copyright holder has already given permission for the exact same cuts to be made in the TV and airline versions of these movies.

191 posted on 07/09/2006 12:12:41 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: monkeyshine
They should have helped their customers procure a new license for every copy they distributed by buying a clean copy each time they sold an edited version.

That is precisely how CleanFilms operates.
192 posted on 07/09/2006 12:15:22 AM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: JoeSixPack1

It's a Wonderful Life bombed big time when it came out. The studio was scared to death of it. People thought it was Marxist because of its handling of the Mr. Potter character.


193 posted on 07/09/2006 12:16:14 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: FreedomCalls
Ands you missed the point that the copyright holder has already given permission for the exact same cuts to be made in the TV and airline versions of these movies.

Then why is this company doing it again without permission? Why not buy the TV or airline version?

194 posted on 07/09/2006 12:16:26 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Because the copyright holder is the one that decides what is done with his property.

So I can't underline text in a college text book. I can't draw a Hitler mustache on the photo of Hillary Clinton on the cover of her book? Where is the law that says this?

If you wrote a book and someone decided to publish their version of your book and profit from it, would you allow that? Especially if they were cutting into your profit?

They aren't "publishing" a version. They are simply making edits to a version already purchased. It actually increases profits because every copy sold this way is a copy that would be unsold otherwise.

195 posted on 07/09/2006 12:16:59 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Central Scrutiniser
If its being edited it is being altered away from the original without permission from the copyright holder. How hard is it for you to understand that?

Following your logic, it should be illegal for anyone to modify a vehicle after they buy it from the dealer. Do you think it should be illegal to add an aftermarket radio, change body panels, interior, engine mods, or any of the thousands of other things people do to their cars?

196 posted on 07/09/2006 12:19:09 AM PDT by killjoy (Dirka dirka mohammed jihad! Sherpa sherpa bakalah!)
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To: killjoy

No, a car doesn't have a copyright, its not intellectual property. Come on, you should know better than that.


197 posted on 07/09/2006 12:19:56 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: Binghamton_native

It wasn't clear in the article.

Then I disagree with the ruling. There is no difference if a person bought a movie and asked me to edit out the bad words for them, and what they did. So I see no reason why Cleanfilms can't do it for a living. Maybe it will get overturned on appeal, because anyone is entitled to edit their own copies of works they purchased for own use, so why not entrust someone else to do it?

Renting those version out may be a different story, though. But purchased copies for own use, I can't see how this ruling is logical.


198 posted on 07/09/2006 12:19:59 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: JoeSixPack1

You might also want to look up the Copyright Term Extension Act aka The Mickey Mouse Copyright Act. Disney actually had the copyright law changed to keep Mickey from falling into public domain.


199 posted on 07/09/2006 12:19:59 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

No, a car doesn't have a copyright, its not intellectual property. Come on, you should know better than that.




The name of the car and certain components as well as features have copyrighted names.


200 posted on 07/09/2006 12:21:06 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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