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Court Rules Against Sanitizing Films
AP ^ | Saturday July 8, 9:52 pm

Posted on 07/08/2006 9:24:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Sanitizing movies on DVD or VHS tape violates federal copyright laws, and several companies that scrub films must turn over their inventory to Hollywood studios, an appeals judge ruled.

Editing movies to delete objectionable language, sex and violence is an "illegitimate business" that hurts Hollywood studios and directors who own the movie rights, said U.S. District Judge Richard P. Matsch in a decision released Thursday in Denver.

"Their (studios and directors) objective ... is to stop the infringement because of its irreparable injury to the creative artistic expression in the copyrighted movies," the judge wrote. "There is a public interest in providing such protection."

Matsch ordered the companies named in the suit, including CleanFlicks, Play It Clean Video and CleanFilms, to stop "producing, manufacturing, creating" and renting edited movies. The businesses also must turn over their inventory to the movie studios within five days of the ruling.

"We're disappointed," CleanFlicks chief executive Ray Lines said. "This is a typical case of David vs. Goliath, but in this case, Hollywood rewrote the ending. We're going to continue to fight."

CleanFlicks produces and distributes sanitized copies of Hollywood films on DVD by burning edited versions of movies onto blank discs. The scrubbed films are sold over the Internet and to video stores.

As many as 90 video stores nationwide -- about half of them in Utah -- purchase movies from CleanFlicks, Lines said. It's unclear how the ruling may effect those stores.

The controversy began in 1998 when the owners of Sunrise Family Video began deleting scenes from "Titanic" that showed a naked Kate Winselt.

The scrubbing caused an uproar in Hollywood, resulting in several lawsuits and countersuits.

Directors can feel vindicated by the ruling, said Michael Apted, president of the Director's Guild of America.

"Audiences can now be assured that the films they buy or rent are the vision of the filmmakers who made them and not the arbitrary choices of a third-party editor," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: busybodies; christianmedia; churchlady; cleanflicks; copyright; directorsguild; fairuse; film; hollywood; restrictchoices; richardmatsch; sanitize; secularselfrighteous; unelectedjudges; video
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To: KarlInOhio

OK, I just watched the Matt Lauer video on the Clearplay website. They showed a violent fighting scene from "The Matrix." Then they showed the Clearplay edit. They silenced (not bleeped) the man saying the word for his buttocks that starts with A (you can clearly see that he says the word). Then they simply skipped the whole fighting sequence. Was the actual Clearplay version of the Matrix 10 minutes long?

I noticed that they had a version of "Flight 93." They say that they edited Scary Moments and Intense Thematic Elements. So what did they do? End the movie after the guy says "Let's Roll?"



481 posted on 07/09/2006 1:20:01 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: FreedomCalls; BigSkyFreeper
So if the companies reverted to their original business model of only altering copies of movies that people send in, then you agree that would be legal?

No replies.

Well would it?

482 posted on 07/09/2006 1:20:10 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: durasell

I made the mistake of seeing V FOR VENDETTA on the recommendation of a co-worker. It was deliberately insulting to Christians while glorifying everything from homosexuality to terrorism. It included some scenes so over the top in their anti-Western hysteria that they had to be deliberate (e.g., a homosexual preserving a Koran so that its beautiful art and poetry wouldn't be destroyed by dictatorial, rampaging Christians). If Big Brother in 1984 were to make a film, V FOR VENDETTA would be it.


483 posted on 07/09/2006 1:20:59 PM PDT by puroresu
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To: Seamoth

Its not Moore's fault, the people he interview sign releases allowing it to happen.

I think Moore is a hack, but if you are dumb enough to allow him to interview you and sign the release, too bad.


484 posted on 07/09/2006 1:21:08 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: puroresu

Hey, don't feel bad. I made the mistake of seeing Gangs of New York.


485 posted on 07/09/2006 1:22:26 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

I'm not saying the copyright attaches to the plastic disc. That is why blank DVDs are not copyrighted.

But the content is, whether it's a DVD, CD, book, canvas, the internet, whatever.

Nobody can advocate altering the contents of a book, for example, and selling that for a profit, but they see no problem with editing a movie for distribution. Strange.


486 posted on 07/09/2006 1:25:05 PM PDT by GatorGirl
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To: GatorGirl

Okay, we're in agreement.


487 posted on 07/09/2006 1:26:52 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Yeah, for his original interviews... I'm thinking of the canned, pre-done interview clips that he gets from networks.


488 posted on 07/09/2006 1:29:24 PM PDT by Seamoth (Kool-aid is the most addictive and destructive drug of them all.)
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To: GatorGirl

Readers Digest alters books. As for movies, they are altered for TV all the time.


489 posted on 07/09/2006 1:31:20 PM PDT by RichRepublican (Some days you're the windshield--some days you're the bug.)
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To: RichRepublican
Readers digest gets permission from the copyright holders to alter the books. Same with movies for TV. That has been answered dozens of times on this thread.
490 posted on 07/09/2006 1:32:42 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: Seamoth

Or the incident with Charlton Heston, who was suffering from Alzheimer's. Moore may have been technically operating within the law on many of these interviews, but he's surely one of the world's lowest forms of scum.


491 posted on 07/09/2006 1:32:43 PM PDT by puroresu
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To: RichRepublican

Readers Digest alters books. As for movies, they are altered for TV all the time.





Those rights are purchased. These people didn't buy the rights. They just went ahead and did it.


492 posted on 07/09/2006 1:33:07 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
What are you talking about?

This is based on a ruling by a "District" judge. It *will* be appealed to the 9th circuit and might go all the way to the SCOUTS. Even then, all congress has to do is rewrite the law.

Why are you so worked up about this? Hollywood isn't conservative. So why are you in their corner?
493 posted on 07/09/2006 1:35:51 PM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Sorry, just got here.


494 posted on 07/09/2006 1:36:33 PM PDT by RichRepublican (Some days you're the windshield--some days you're the bug.)
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To: RichRepublican; Central Scrutiniser

50 lashes with a wet noodle and go stand in the corner...


495 posted on 07/09/2006 1:37:36 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: albyjimc2

No its not... fair use doctrine.....


496 posted on 07/09/2006 1:38:51 PM PDT by Schwaeky (Welcome to America--Now speak English or LEAVE!)
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To: rcocean

Neither the Supreme Court or Congress will weaken U.S. copyright laws, which, by the way, are international.


497 posted on 07/09/2006 1:39:10 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: RichRepublican

No worries, this thread is hilarious, the same arguments get disproved every 30 or so posts, then it starts up again.

Its kinda like a mobius strip.


498 posted on 07/09/2006 1:43:31 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: BenLurkin
They are saying, in effect, "We demand that we be allowed to poison your minds and the minds of your children -- if you wish to partake in the cinematic experience."

Payment has nothing to do with it. If you're that offended, then by all means don't watch. Don't expect an artist to let you hack at his work so that you don't have to feel offended.

It's folks like you who would rather pay $1200 for a curtain than "poison your mind" by looking at a topless statue of Lady Justice.

Get over yourselves.

499 posted on 07/09/2006 1:44:59 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: rcocean
Why are you so worked up about this? Hollywood isn't conservative. So why are you in their corner

Are you saying that its ok to break the law just because you are a conservative and they are liberal? The law is the law, not open to liberal vs conservative arguments, you don't get that. The supreme court won't even hear this case, its cut and dried. Some conservative you are, you want congress to write more laws based on your emotions? Pathetic

500 posted on 07/09/2006 1:46:09 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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