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To: Quix
However, evidently God is going to discipline Israel to within a hair's breadth of it's extinction for the people's forsaking of fellowship/relationship/dialogue with HIM.

Comforting to know that the Nazi Islamists are 'doing the work of the Lord'. . .and we need not worry about Israel as they receive their 'just desserts' delivered by the terrorists.

Allah ackbar!

5 posted on 07/14/2006 4:01:09 AM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free; or suffer their consequences. . .)
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Comforting to know that the Nazi Islamists are 'doing the work of the Lord'. . .and we need not worry about Israel as they receive their 'just desserts' delivered by the terrorists.

Hmmm... About 199 times in the Old Testament, we read passages like this "And the children of Israel rebelled, so God allowed their enemies to come against them...."

7 posted on 07/14/2006 4:11:44 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: cricket; sport; navygal; MamaDearest; Vicki; American in Israel; auggy; jeremiah; Libertina; ...

END TIMES PING LIST PING.

If you wnat on, or off, please let me know.

Genesis 12:3 (The Message)
The Message (MSG)
Copyright © 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2000, 2001, 2002 by Eugene H. Peterson

2-3 I'll make you a great nation and bless you.
I'll make you famous; you'll be a blessing.
I'll bless those who bless you;
those who curse you I'll curse.
All the families of the Earth
will be blessed through you."


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Cricket,

I happen to be of the very firm, deep rooted, solid opinion that

GOD ALMIGHTY DOES ALL THINGS WELL!

And, that's regardless of whether I can wrap my finite mind around His doings, or not. He also declares that [in some sense, to some significant degree] HIS WAYS ARE BEYOND FINDING OUT.

His relationship with Israel is as has been mentioned in this thread. Israel rebells; God disciplines her, usually via her enemies.

She repents, God blesses her until she gets fat and rebellious. Yes, this is not unlike America.

And, then there's that Scripture about God's relationship with individuals--that ALL THOSE HE LOVES, HE DISCIPLINES. Those not experiencing God's disciplines . . . at least from time to time, would do well to check and see if they have a relationship with God, at all.

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BEYOND ALL THAT, this end times drama is a unique period in all history.

imho, God is setting Israel up AND GOD IS SETTING THE WORLD UP

for the most extreme, GRAND, memorable etc. OBJECT LESSON [for His Glory] particularly for ALL CREATION FOR ALL TIME that a relationship with God brings Life, liberty, freedom, blessing. That rebellion against God brings death.

It's really as simple as that. Lots of things are fodder for that educational message. Has been so throughout history. Will be even more vividly and clearly so in this era.

Screaming otherwise won't change it a micro-gram's worth.

Screaming that finite minds know better than God Almighty won't change it a micro-gram's worth.

Screaming that God is wrongly not running HIS MULTIVERSES ACCORDING TO ONE'S OWN FINITE CONSTRUCTIONS ON REALITY won't change it a micro-gram's worth. . . . might not even warrent a good chuckle on God's part.

Also, screams that those of us who read Scripture in rather literal terms--particularly regarding prophecies related to this END TIMES ERA . . . screams that we are idiots, have it all wrong; etc. will not change or delay the literal fulfillments of such prophecies one micro gram's worth.

It seems to me, that a lot of folks are going to be rudely awakened at some not-to-distant point . . . with the fact that their constructions on reality have been seriously flawed.

At least, they've been warned.

ISRAEL WILL OVERCOME--but only By God's promises, direction and power. She has the honor of being His primary object lesson for all creation.

The Christian Church is 2ndly so honored.


32 posted on 07/14/2006 8:55:37 AM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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