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Hottest things in St. Louis (Ten Hottest Days)
STltoday.com ^ | 7/13/2006 | None

Posted on 07/16/2006 5:37:08 AM PDT by FairWitness

By itself, the number 115 isn’t all that intimidating. But tack on one simple, little word and you’re asking for trouble.

It’s all a matter of degrees: 115 degrees, that is.

So read the thermometer on July 14, 1954, a scorcher of a summer day that remains St. Louis’ hottest.

Ten Hottest Days in St. Louis History

Hottest Days
Date Degrees Fahrenheit
July 14, 1954 115
July 18, 1954 112
July 24, 1934 111
July 12, 1954 110
August 9, 1934 110
July 20, 1934 110
July 28, 1930 108
August 8, 1934 108
July 23, 1934 108
July 14, 1936 108


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: globalwarming
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Granted, this is just "anectdotal evidence", but it really struck me odd how the Post dispatch, which argues for man-made global warming constantly, doesn't see the irony of the "hottest days" all being 50-70 years ago.
1 posted on 07/16/2006 5:37:09 AM PDT by FairWitness
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To: FairWitness

So write a letter to the editor stating as much.


2 posted on 07/16/2006 5:46:30 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: FairWitness
Granted, this is just "anecdotal evidence"

Actually, this evidence is much more than anecdotal, it is statistical. You could make the point with as much statistical certainty as Algore has for global warming, that St Louis is experiencing Global Cooling. You could then, with equal certainty, expand that to prove "Global Cooling" worldwide.

3 posted on 07/16/2006 5:51:53 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage
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To: FairWitness

OT but...having been born and raise in St. Louis, it ain't the heat, it's the humidity! OY!


4 posted on 07/16/2006 5:55:34 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: FairWitness
You've noticed the same inconsistency in weather reporting that I have. Thursday, the weather man on Fox Channel 4 in Dallas said that 2006 is the hottest recorded summer since 1885. Errrr... ugh, then it was hotter in 1885? Yep, and they did it without the help of burning all of those so called "fossil fuels," not to mention the unmentionable, the dreaded SUV.
5 posted on 07/16/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by Texas Jack
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To: norwaypinesavage
Actually, this evidence is much more than anecdotal, it is statistical.

It's minimally statistical. "One day" statistics will always show you a new "highest temperature" in one place and a new "lowest temperature" in some other palce. But the trouble becomes, how do you average out temperatures over hundreds, or thousands of square miles, let alone a whole planet. If the average temperature of the planet is, say, 15 degrees, and it changes one degree, where did the change take place and what does it mean.

6 posted on 07/16/2006 6:24:30 AM PDT by FairWitness
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Temps yesterday out here on the prairie hit over 100 topping at like 116 in Pierre, SD. However come about January we will all be longing for some of that global warming.

My parents used to talk about what was called the "Dirty Thirties" when similar temps were seen for years and dust storms made noon as dark as night. I guess we have to blame Herbert Hoover for causing those climate problems as it is always the Republicans fault.

7 posted on 07/16/2006 6:24:41 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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Take care. Similar weather killed 13,000 people in Paris a few years back.

Please let me know if Medicines Sans Frontiers shows up to help. Look for them wherever you see news cameras.
8 posted on 07/16/2006 6:25:03 AM PDT by LiberationIT
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According to the Red Cross between 22,000 and 35,000 died in the 2003 heatwave across Europe. If we ought to be opening our borders to anyone, it's Europe's elderly.


9 posted on 07/16/2006 6:29:07 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: The Great RJ
My parents used to talk about what was called the "Dirty Thirties" when similar temps were seen for years and dust storms made noon as dark as night. I guess we have to blame Herbert Hoover for causing those climate problems as it is always the Republicans fault.

I was born in '41, so I don't remember the 30's (though my father, a farmer, told me plenty about the drought and dustbowl days). I do remember a lot about the late 40's and 50's in Wisconsin. It always seemed to me that we had one of the largest swings in temperature, summer to winter, of any place in the country. If it goes from 110 to minus 40, what does an average temperature mean? What does matter I guess is the length of the "growing season" and the weather at the precise times when animals/birds/insects/plants breed, give birth, hibernate or go dormant, etc.

10 posted on 07/16/2006 6:32:13 AM PDT by FairWitness
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LOL! No Doubt! My parents were born and raised in depression western OK, therefore, hard core die hard democrats!
The Post Disgrace is always so pessimistic and their circulation is decreasing quickly.
Imagine a heat wave in MO in JULY!?!?!?!


11 posted on 07/16/2006 6:41:07 AM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: Texas Jack
The real data does not say that it was hotter in 1885. That is just bad writing. What they mean is that it was "the hottest since our current record-keeping system started, in 1885."

Sometimes, especially with prices, they DO mean it was higher back then. As in "the price of whizium is at a 10-year high" That does mean that it was higher 11 years ago, and so with inflation, it is a good bit cheaper now.

However, on temperature, the best data is that the overall temps now (though not the all-time highs -- most were set in the 1930s) are higher now than in the last 200-400 years (as we came out of the Little Ice Age of 1715-45), but are probably lower than 1100-1300, and definitely lower than c. 6000 years ago. [all numbers approx., but there are good articles on this]

12 posted on 07/16/2006 6:51:06 AM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: Texas Jack
...the weather man on Fox Channel 4 in Dallas said that 2006 is the hottest recorded summer since 1885.

And I have yet to hear one of these "reporters" or any of the "man made global warming enthusiasts" express even the slightest bit of wonder as to why those days in 1885 or whenever, were hotter, when they clearly predate the use of fossil fuel.

13 posted on 07/16/2006 6:52:52 AM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: The Great RJ; All

---IIRC, Lead, SD had its all-time high--a recorded 100F--in 1936, also---


14 posted on 07/16/2006 7:26:05 AM PDT by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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To: FairWitness

So, in memory of then (1954) President "Ike" Eisenhower, we can purport to Global Nothingness.

OK by me! See tag below.


15 posted on 07/16/2006 7:33:01 AM PDT by wizr (Red blooded Americans wear Red on Fridays. Christians show Jesus' blood was spilled, too!)
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So, in memory of then (1954) President "Ike" Eisenhower, we can purport to Global Nothingness.

Sorry, I think that one went right over my head. Paraphrasing Buffy, "could you vague that up for me a little?"

16 posted on 07/16/2006 7:46:04 AM PDT by FairWitness
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Except for the Korean War, early in the 50's, that decade was noted as a time of ease.

No one gives Ike credit for much, but I don't think anyone in the world wanted to mess with him as Commander in Chief, after he spearheaded the end of the Nazi empire.

So, I my opinion, it appears that Global Warming ended in 1954, and, Ike, as President, must have won that battle, too.

Therefore, the environmental war can be declared ended in 1954. Oh, sure, we have skirmishes throughout the world. But, if the wackos can predict the future by raindrops (or the lack thereof), then we can declare the opposite by the enclosed article.

Global Nothingness is my opposition to the doomsday ducks.


17 posted on 07/16/2006 8:20:53 AM PDT by wizr (Red blooded Americans wear Red on Fridays. Christians show Jesus' blood was spilled, too!)
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"It's minimally statistical. "One day" statistics will always show you a new "highest temperature" in one place and a new "lowest temperature" in some other place."

I think there is more information than just that. We have been keeping temperature statistics in the US for about 100 years. For every day, there is a hottest and coldest statistic. That means that for any day, there is about a one in a hundred chance of setting a new hottest temperature, and a one in a hundred chance of setting a new coldest temperature. If these records were truly random, they would be evenly distributed over the time of record keeping. If there were a temperature trend over the time of the record keeping, the records would be biased by the trend. The fact that the hottest temperature records at St Louis occurred during the first half of the record keeping period is statistically significant.

18 posted on 07/16/2006 8:34:10 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage
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There IS a US weather service website that will provide the record highs AND lows for every zip code in the US.

I've checked it on several occasions when this sorty of discussion came up. The 30's were hottest in many zip codes, and record temps vary greatly over the entire period of US weather record-keeping.

Unfortunately, I have lost that web address. Looking, but maybe someone will find it ahead of me.


19 posted on 07/16/2006 9:05:26 AM PDT by 9999lakes
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To: wizr

Thanks for clarification. Those were good years in many ways. My "political awareness" really began in 1952 (at age 11), listening to the Republication Convention on radio. I remember being so excited when Eisenhower finally won the nomination (after how many rounds of voting?) that I ran a half mile to the "back 40", where my father was putting up hay, to tell him the news.


20 posted on 07/16/2006 9:07:45 AM PDT by FairWitness
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