Cape man buoys theory missile downed jet (TWA Flight 800)

Boston Herald ^ | Tuesday, July 18, 2006 | Joe Dwinell

[PajamaTruthMafia]

Cape man buoys theory missile downed jet By Joe Dwinell

A Bay State physicist is taking on the National Transportation Safety Board in federal court in Boston to help bolster his theory a missile is to blame for taking down TWA Flight 800 a decade ago.

“I don’t want this 10-year anniversary to go by without paying attention to this plausible theory,” said Tom Stalcup, a Falmouth resident who holds a doctorate in physics and heads up the Flight 800 Independent Researchers Organization.

Flight 800 exploded and crashed in the sea south of Long Island, N.Y., at 3 p.m. on July 17, 1996.

Stalcup’s group, linked mostly by the Internet, has filed a complaint in U.S. District Court in Boston seeking documents relating to the crash, including a “wreckage item” that exited the plane’s airframe at “apparent supersonic speeds.”

Stalcup alleges the Navy recovered this “smoking gun” wreckage.

Federal officials say the crash was an accident - not a missile strike from a Navy exercise or anything else

[COEXERJ145]

Heck, you can pour kerosene or diesel on to a lantern to put the wick out!

And you stick a lantern wick into a container of kerosene vapor and it will blow up in your face.

[DJ MacWoW]

Where is the wreckage?

I read on anothere TWA 800 thread that it's been destroyed. Curious.

[razorback-bert]

I was watching a show on the mob and Cuba, and saw a factiod I didn't know before. Jack Ruby visited Trafficante in Castro's jail and helped to arrange his release, this was from a CIA report on Castro's dealings.

I have seen numerous reports that Ruby was just a mob wannabe.

[PajamaTruthMafia]

What ideal? You point, you get tone, you fire. If you don't you keep moving closer ....We are not talking about a sight guided weapon here... And if planes don't make good targets at 15K then why do they make that within range?

[Swordmaker]

More importantly . . . If a terrorist had any intention of shooting down an eastbound passenger aircraft flying out of JFK International Airport, he would not have bothered doing it at a point where the aircraft would be more than 16,000 feet overhead when he could as easily do it 25-50 miles further west where the aircraft would be flying much lower.

TWA-800 was at 13,800 feet when the Initiating Event (whether a missile or a spark in the Center Wing Tank) occured. 13,800 ft, is just at the outside range of several Russian made tripod mounted Ground to Air missiles.

A tripod mounted Mistral MANPAD missile, complete, ready to fire, was found set up and abandoned on a country road in Maryland two years before the TWA-800 disaster:

October 11, 1994 Associated Press report datelined 09/28 23:55 EDT V0009 (1994)
A State bomb squad destroyed a French-made surface to air rocket launcher armed with a live missile and explosives ....along a rural roadside in Westminster, Maryland.

The FBI and NTSB stated that there are no Man portable missiles that are capable of reaching that altitude... this is false. There are many that can.

The French made Mistral Missile is capable of reaching TWA-800s altitude (4-6km range) and is a fire and forget infra-red heat seeker. The Mistral is used in the militaries of 28 nations including several islamic nations. It is only one of several that have the range to reach TWA-800's altitude and still be effective.

The Mistral missile uses a two stage rocket propellant. The first stage ejects the missile from the launcher and spins the missile to provide stability in flight. The sustainer motor accelerates the missile to supersonic speed towards the target. The missile is equipped with an infra-red homing head supplied by SAT and based on an indium arsenide detector array operating in the 3 to 5 micron band of the infra-red spectrum. The missile has a 3kg high explosive warhead loaded with tungsten balls. The warhead is fitted with contact and proximity fuses.

Strangely, the coronor reported many of the bodies of the TWA-800 victims had small metallic balls in them...

The Mistral is a Tier 1 Manpad... but Tier 2 Manpads are also available. A Tier 2 Manpad could easily reach TWA-800 and knock it out of the sky:

Every one of the red dots on the plot is a location where a Tier Two Manpads could launch and hit an aircraft taking no evasive action at ~13,700 feet of altitude traveling at 370 knots.

In addition, at least 11 other airline crews reported missiles or missile like objects in near misses of their flights near Long Island in the months before and after TWA-800.

[DJ MacWoW]

This is curious too.

Appeals Court Rules No Additional TWA Flight 800 Records Will Be Released

[Richard Kimball]

How did LBJ keep an entire carrier crew as well as the crew of the U.S.S. Liberty quiet when he ordered the carrier's commanding officer not to send interceptors to protect the Liberty while unmarked Israeli aircraft were bombing it and strafing the lifeboats?

This is from the same web site you list as a source:

The not-so-secret chemtrail spraying program, intended to keep us from attaining higher spiritual awareness/consciousness, to reduce ethnically targeted populations worldwide, and to induce bioengineered disease organisms in order to reap staggering profits for the pharmaceutical cartels is apparently failing- and failing badly.

Sorry, but I'd need a better source than that.

[Swordmaker]

Oh, I get it.....this pointy head has a doctorate degree and is the head of some blog smog.

Tom Stalcup, was a PhD candidate when TWA-800 went down. When the CIA and NTSB created the ZOOM CLIMB cartoons to discredit the eyewitnesses, Stalcup got incensed because he knew they were physically impossible. The laws of physics would have to be violated, in several ways, for either the 3700 ft (CIA) or 1600 ft (NTSB) climbs to have occured.

Along with quite a few others, he caught them lying.

He called them on it.

[PGalt]

Interesting thread. Thanks for beginning.

[COEXERJ145]

ROFLMAO!

Chemtrails! We're all going to die!

[Southack]

"And you stick a lantern wick into a container of kerosene vapor and it will blow up in your face."

Without air, pure kerosene vapor will not combust in the presence of a spark.

Without compression, but with air, kerosene vapor can make a small, harmless pop.

A catastrophic explosion, however, no. One enormous flaw in the *physics* of the official TWA 800 center fuel tank story is that there simply isn't enough (if any!) compression in an empty tank to make much of a boom.

[Swordmaker]

Easily. There were lots of unaccounted for stingers in...drum roll please...Afghanastan at the time. The plane, according to a FR thread, exploded at around 5,500 feet.

The initiating event occured as TWA-800 was climbing through 13,800 feet... the massive fireball at 5,500ft. was a fuel explosion that did occur when the truncated plane had lost one of its wings and had spilled all of that fuel into the atmosphere which then ignited. That was not the missile.

[streetpreacher]

Dumb source but I believe they lifted their info.

How's this?

http://www.ussliberty.org/voices.htm

[Swordmaker]

Secondly, IR missiles would not have caused the center fuel tank to explode. An IR missile would have taken off an engine at most.

Not really... the missile would have averaged out the four engines's heat sources and targeted an area in the middle... where there was a considerable heat source as well:

[Mr. Quarterpanel]

The missiles that you describe are all IR missiles, and would chase the heat from the engines, and not the center fuel tank. The only type that would have gone for the center mass of the aircraft would be radar guided, and there are no MANPAD missiles (that I know of) that meet this criteria.

[Swordmaker]

Wrong, the initial explosion occurred at over 15,000 feet.

No, the initiating event (which may not have been an explosion) occured as the plane was climbing at 13,800 feet.

[AmericaUnited]

someone would have talked by now

You know the old saying.... 100 people can keep a secret if 99 of them are dead.

[UCANSEE2]

"everyone on that ship would have known a missile was launched off long island the night this plane was downed. "

Many missiles were launched that afternoon. There was a Recon AC and a drone target. What would you imagine the target was for? (said with a smile : )

[Mr. Quarterpanel]

Got a better picture than that? You have got to do better than an oblique angle to make your point.

While it is interesting, I still think that the "vents" could not be over 120 degrees, where the exhaust from the engines are seen as a tongue of 400 degree heat over 30 feet long. 4 nice, big, juicy, hot engines and it goes for the A/C vent?

I dunno.....