Israel and the international precedent (Clinton & Kosovo)

netwmd ^ | 7-18-2006 | Randy A. Sprinkle

[sageb1]

ping

[tomzz]

Kosovo is the basic blueprint and prototype for Atzlan. Kosovo HAS to be given back to its rightful owners, i.e. to Serbia.

[trek]

I definitely think America should send peacekeepers to Southern Lebanon, Syria and Iran. But I don't think 10,000 are necessary. A few dozen should do.

MX

[doug from upland]

Ditto to that

[sageb1]

lol! I'm glad I checked the link. I was ready to scream if I heard anymore about "peacekeepers." ;)

[Hoplite]

So much is being written about Kosovo by so many who don't understand the first thing about it.

Comparing Israel to Slobodan Milosevic's Serbia is a supreme insult to the State of Israel.

[inpajamas]

"Comparing Israel to Slobodan Milosevic's Serbia is a supreme insult to the State of Israel.

Israel is not being compared to Serbia - the media then is being compared to the media now - and the internationalist mind set that Clinton held then is being compared with the mindset of world leaders today. Therein lies the similarities.

[inpajamas]

.....and also the KLA is being compared to the militant Islamic terrorist in the M.E.

[untrained skeptic]

Seems like overkill for Lebanon, and maybe for Syria as well.

We however need to quit playing games with Iran.

Iran is obviously funding and arming these groups.

Does anyone believe that it's merely a coincidence that this flares up right when Iran is getting drug before the UN Security Council over their nuclear weapons program?

Iran is waging war on Israel through intermediaries and they aren't even hiding it, yet we do little to nothing about it.

Have we learned nothing from the past?

It's time for Bush to state the obvious. Iran is and has been supporting terrorists in criminal acts against civilians. They are arming and funding terrorists. The are arming, funding, and directing those who are carrying out acts against Israel which an ally of the United States.

This can not be tolerated.

Then Bush as commander in chief should order but not necessarily announce, an very noticeable increase in troops in the area. Shift people from Europe and elsewhere. Maybe shift the path of a carrier group so it starts heading closer to Iran.

If the EU makes a fuss, shift even more of our soldiers out of their countries so they lose their protection as well as their contribution to their economies.

Tell them if the want to diffuse the situation they better do everything they possibly can to stop Iran from funding terrorism, give up their nuclear program, and stop calling for the destruction of Israel.

The them to prove that they are not useless or to go away and shut up.

[Hoplite]

Israel is not being compared to Serbia

Gotta disagree with you there - the author attempts to portray Serbian actions as legitimate, then goes on to apply his erroneous understanding of the Western response to Milosevic's Serbia to the present situation in the Middle East, with Israel supposedly now in some bizarro world danger of being treated the same as Serbia was during the 1990's.

More of the same.

More of the same.

In short, there's a "Serbia=Israel" theme being pushed by our Serbian friends.

As to any supposed radical Islamic nature of the KLA, we've been in Kosovo for over 7 years now - you tell me: how radical are Islamists who don't attack Americans?

[Tzimisce]

Any war against white westerners is a good war. :)

[ma bell]

Enlighten us to your writings..."hoplite writes: So much is being written about Kosovo by so many who don't understand the first thing about it. Comparing Israel to Slobodan Milosevic's Serbia is a supreme insult to the State of Israel.

[montyspython]

That's because Hoplite's ass does all the thinking for him.

[inpajamas]

You that wrong that Israel actions are being compared to Serbian actions. In fact it is noted that the media is finding it difficult to paint Israel in the same light as the Serbs even though they would like to; the reason being that Israel has avoided committing the atrocities that the Serbs have been accused of.

There is some evidence to back up the accusations of mass executions by Serbs but it does not rise to the scale of massive genocide to annihilate an entire population as it was portrayed.

you cite two links as evidence that Israel and Serbia are being compared but they are both from different authors unrelated to this article so what does that show?

There are some similarities but it was also note in the begining that there are differences. One differences is that Israeli reactions to attacks are more disciplined, restrained, and lawful; that is mentioned in the article.
Most similarities as I stated earlier are in the media coverage, international politics, and some of the circumstances. I know because I wrote it.

As for radical Islam in the region; give it time, it is there and when it has opportunity it will raise its ugly head again.

[tgambill]

"That's because Hoplite's ass does all the thinking for him."

So, let me understand this.....I've heard of "Ed, The Talking Horse" in the 50 and 60's. But you're telling me that Hopletter, not to be confused with Linketter; that Hoplite has a Donkey that can talk. Wow...just imagine, a talking ass, er, uh I mean Donkey.....

[inpajamas]

Ed was no donkey; I use to watch him and heard him speak, he was intelligent so obviously he was Republican.

As for Hoplite's assertion that the KLA is not radical, I would just say that if I were a betting man I would not put any money on it. Everywhere Islamic militants are today, if there is not trouble there will be.

[tgambill]

Ed was a horse....Hopless has a Donkey.....or a talking ass.....:))

Wherever Islamic radicals are there will be trouble...

[montyspython]

[inpajamas]

Here is an example of the rhetoric in the media that I was making comparison to.

Fox News analyst compares Israelis to Nazis Bevelacqua tells O'Reilly Jewish state ruthless in Lebanon

Fox News military analyst Maj. Bob Bevelacqua, a former Green Beret, appearing tonight on "The O'Reilly Factor," compared Israeli actions in Lebanon and Gaza with Nazi actions in Russia during World War II. Bevelacqua, a long-time Fox News contributor, said the Israelis were unwilling to compromise in their conflict with Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in southern Lebanon. He denied that the Israelis willingly evacuated from Gaza and Lebanon. "Saying the Israelis pulled out of Lebanon is like saying the Nazis pulled out of Moscow," he said. "They invaded Lebanon. They invaded Gaza. They take homes and then they give them back. And they expect some type of great recognition."

Israelis like Nazis