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Israel and the international precedent (Clinton & Kosovo)
netwmd ^ | 7-18-2006 | Randy A. Sprinkle

Posted on 07/18/2006 7:46:08 PM PDT by inpajamas

The events in Yugoslavia leading up to the NATO operations against the Serbian people in 1999 and the events which followed should be taken into consideration as a possible precursor for future actions taken against other nations and in particular, Israel. Although every situation is unique unto itself, there are patterns, models, and precedents that may indicate the direction and even to some extent outcomes. While responses and actions may differ, by looking at past events we can understand established mindsets that will determine future actions as well as results.

In 1995, Militant Islamic Albanians organized into the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA). Employing guerilla-style tactics against Serbians, incidents of violence increased, as did reprisals. The Serbian government claimed that their army was only going after suspected Albanian "terrorists" however, reports began to circulate that Yugoslav forces were committing war crimes in Kosovo. As violence escalated in a series of KLA attacks and Yugoslav reprisals, diplomatic efforts for a peaceful solution were initiated. Under an agreement led by Richard Holbrooke, OSCE observers moved into Kosovo to monitor the ceasefire. Yugoslav forces partly pulled out of Kosovo, however, the ceasefire was broken shortly thereafter by KLA forces, which again provoked harsh counterattacks by the Serbs. Rumors of genocide against Albanians began to circulate and the rest is history - a civil war was settled by a multi-national third party who became both judge and arbitrator.

While there are differences in circumstances between what happened in Kosovo in 1999 and what is taking place in the Middle East today, there are also similarities including past events that could foreshadow some future ones.

The Yugoslavian Precedent

Leading up to NATO actions against Serbia the world news media methodically turned the Serbs into the new “Nazis of our time while portraying Islamic radicals as victims of genocide and ethnic cleansing. Today similar accusations are cast at Israel and the USA anytime they attempt to take any action in order to defend their nations from terrorist and rouge nations. I would not excuse genocide or any crimes against humanity committed by anyone, but Kosovo was pre 9/11 and there was much more to be told that went virtually untold and other things reported that were not true. The result was that the world in large believed accusations which now appear to have been at the very least greatly exaggerated and war was waged upon a people under siege of radical Islamic militants.

Does it seem odd that international actions seem to be taken only when Islam is losing while in the places they are clearly committing crimes the world closes its eyes?

The NYT ran an article in 1999 titled: “NATO Peacekeepers Plan a System of Controls for the News Media in Kosovo” - the bottomline: censorship and processed news with a biased slant - “All the news that’s print to fit“. The world was told international intervention was necessary as a humanitarian effort to keep the radical Serbs from committing genocide and eradicating poor oppressed Islamic people (terrorist?).

Is it possible that anti-Israeli Arabs will force the same type of actions in the Middle-East? - That is; use terrorist actions and guerrilla warfare to provoke a conflict in which the media will portray the civilian populations as victims which must be saved by international intervention. If terrorist groups can escalate the conflict to create great hardships upon civilians then calls will go out for measures to be taken on an international level as a humanitarian effort - In fact they already have.

Consider international responses to the crisis:

EU - Javier Solana

A senior European Union official returned from the Middle East on Monday sounding pessimistic about the chance of a cease-fire between Israel and Hezbollah militants, and the EU said it was considering the deployment of peacekeepers. Javier Solana, the EU’s foreign and security chief, said the best that could be hoped for was a “de-escalation” of the fighting. He was to brief a meeting of EU foreign ministers on his weekend talks in Beirut.

UK - Tony Blair

“The blunt reality is that this violence is not going to stop unless we create the conditions for the cessation of violence,” Blair said after talks with Annan in Moscow. “The only way is if we have a deployment of international forces that can stop bombardment coming into Israel,” he said.

France - Dominique de Villepin

French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin on Monday joined British Prime Minister Tony Blair and United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan in calling for the deployment of an international force in southern Lebanon, in order to end the spiraling conflict between Israel and Hezbollah.

Germany - Angela Merkel

Germany’s leader on Monday spoke in favor of sending international peacekeepers into Lebanon but only if the United Nations endorses the move. Speaking at the Group of Eight summit near St. Petersburg, Chancellor Angela Merkel said an international peacekeeping force could provide much-needed support for the government of Lebanon because it is in a “difficult position.” Israel missiles have been hitting targets on Lebanese territory for six days now.

UN - Kofi Annan

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan called for ending the latest Middle East crisis by establishing an international force in Lebanon, saying it would have to be stronger than the largely ineffectual U.N. peacekeeping force that has been there for nearly three decades. “It is urgent that the international community acts to make a difference on the ground," he said. Annan provided few details, saying the Security Council "will have to discuss this and define the specific mandate for one to be able to talk in more concrete terms.

Russia - Vladamir Putin

ABC reported: Russian President Vladimir Putin, closing out the first G-8 summit on Russian soil, said his nation would contribute troops to a U.N. peacekeeping force. The European Union said it also was considering deploying peacekeepers in Lebanon. “Russia is continually taking part in peacekeeping operations. And we will not turn away from involvement in such operations in the future. “Putin stated Monday.

Italy - Romano Prodi, PM

Italian PM says 10,000 peacekeepers needed in Lebanon-Israel Prodi said his country was ready to make a “significant contribution'’ to any deployment in Lebanon, after UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan announced the plan at the Group of Eight summit in St. Petersburg, Russia. U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair, French President Jacques Chirac and German Chancellor Angela Merkel also backed the idea.

Israel and the USA

Israel is against the idea of international forces being introduced on a large scale in the region; for now that may be enough to keep it from happening, especially if the US backs Israel up on the issue. ‘Peacekeepers’ are only effective where they are not needed or until conflict breaks out. The problem is that the mindset of the forces is to treat all parties equal and not take sides. By treating aggressors as defenders, peacekeepers will complicate the situation by becoming ‘terrorist protection agents’. Terrorist attacks will not stop but the Israelis will be hindered from dealing with them freely and effectively. Israel could be turned into the “bad guy” by the media and international community when they have to take actions to protect themselves after international forces fail to do the job.


Note: This is the beginning of a process and there is much more to happen before international forces become a problem; in fact, if they are introduced into the region they may help establish a temporary pseudo-peace. Although the deployment of international forces on a large scale may or may not take place at this point in time; I predict it will take place or at least be made a compulsatory demand at some point. Also, when this does take place I expect a multi-national UN sanctioned force with a much broader base rather than NATO. However, before any such military action will take place the UN will first make demands with ultimatums, for why would the internationalist risk fighting for something if they can persuade Israel to give in willingly?

Although currently there is strong support for Israel among US citizenry, the political pendulum of power swings both ways. It is also possible that international intervention can be sold to a number of uniformed people who are sympathetic to Israel if it is packaged in a way where it appears “good“ for all parties.

If the consensus is that international intervention is necessary to protect citizens in the region from Israeli actions, and also to protect the Jewish people from terrorist actions, Russia will not be opposed, nor China, the EU or many other nations with one possible exception being the USA. - And the US is the wild card. If the administration changes in 2008 or if at present complete chaos were to break out and continue for a time, these events may be used as grounds to bring “peace” to the region by interjecting international forces as a buffer between the parties.

Due to the extent of Israeli military power there would be no NATO type of operation as used against the Serbs, but rather, an attempt to persuade Israeli politicians to accept the forces into the region as peacekeepers for the common good of all parties.

If Israel were to refuse then the media along with many nations will use the occasion to blame Israel for all the problems and for being the obstacle to peace. All of this will work to create a situation where the UN will seek embargos and sanctions to pressure the Jewish state into accepting the international peace plan. What happens from this point on is difficult to determine but there are a number of scenarios depending on how Israel responds to international demands and pressures. It could end with military confrontation or it could end in Israeli compliance by accepting international peacekeeping forces into the region, which would lead to an eventual undermining of Israel’s sovereignty and their ability to defend the state.

TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
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1 posted on 07/18/2006 7:46:16 PM PDT by inpajamas
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2 posted on 07/18/2006 8:01:22 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: inpajamas

Kosovo is the basic blueprint and prototype for Atzlan. Kosovo HAS to be given back to its rightful owners, i.e. to Serbia.

3 posted on 07/18/2006 8:09:58 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: sageb1
I definitely think America should send peacekeepers to Southern Lebanon, Syria and Iran. But I don't think 10,000 are necessary. A few dozen should do.


4 posted on 07/18/2006 8:13:18 PM PDT by trek
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To: trek

Ditto to that

5 posted on 07/18/2006 8:31:44 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: trek

lol! I'm glad I checked the link. I was ready to scream if I heard anymore about "peacekeepers." ;)

6 posted on 07/18/2006 8:36:47 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: inpajamas
So much is being written about Kosovo by so many who don't understand the first thing about it.

Comparing Israel to Slobodan Milosevic's Serbia is a supreme insult to the State of Israel.

7 posted on 07/18/2006 8:38:19 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
"Comparing Israel to Slobodan Milosevic's Serbia is a supreme insult to the State of Israel.

Israel is not being compared to Serbia - the media then is being compared to the media now - and the internationalist mind set that Clinton held then is being compared with the mindset of world leaders today. Therein lies the similarities.

8 posted on 07/18/2006 8:52:35 PM PDT by inpajamas
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To: Hoplite

.....and also the KLA is being compared to the militant Islamic terrorist in the M.E.

9 posted on 07/18/2006 8:55:08 PM PDT by inpajamas
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To: trek
Seems like overkill for Lebanon, and maybe for Syria as well.

We however need to quit playing games with Iran.

Iran is obviously funding and arming these groups.

Does anyone believe that it's merely a coincidence that this flares up right when Iran is getting drug before the UN Security Council over their nuclear weapons program?

Iran is waging war on Israel through intermediaries and they aren't even hiding it, yet we do little to nothing about it.

Have we learned nothing from the past?

It's time for Bush to state the obvious. Iran is and has been supporting terrorists in criminal acts against civilians. They are arming and funding terrorists. The are arming, funding, and directing those who are carrying out acts against Israel which an ally of the United States.

This can not be tolerated.

Then Bush as commander in chief should order but not necessarily announce, an very noticeable increase in troops in the area. Shift people from Europe and elsewhere. Maybe shift the path of a carrier group so it starts heading closer to Iran.

If the EU makes a fuss, shift even more of our soldiers out of their countries so they lose their protection as well as their contribution to their economies.

Tell them if the want to diffuse the situation they better do everything they possibly can to stop Iran from funding terrorism, give up their nuclear program, and stop calling for the destruction of Israel.

The them to prove that they are not useless or to go away and shut up.

10 posted on 07/18/2006 9:22:44 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: inpajamas
Israel is not being compared to Serbia

Gotta disagree with you there - the author attempts to portray Serbian actions as legitimate, then goes on to apply his erroneous understanding of the Western response to Milosevic's Serbia to the present situation in the Middle East, with Israel supposedly now in some bizarro world danger of being treated the same as Serbia was during the 1990's.

More of the same.

More of the same.

In short, there's a "Serbia=Israel" theme being pushed by our Serbian friends.

As to any supposed radical Islamic nature of the KLA, we've been in Kosovo for over 7 years now - you tell me: how radical are Islamists who don't attack Americans?

11 posted on 07/18/2006 9:35:21 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: inpajamas

Any war against white westerners is a good war. :)

12 posted on 07/18/2006 10:03:11 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!
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To: Hoplite; joan; ninenot; Grizzly Adams; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ..
Enlighten us to your writings..."hoplite writes: So much is being written about Kosovo by so many who don't understand the first thing about it. Comparing Israel to Slobodan Milosevic's Serbia is a supreme insult to the State of Israel.
13 posted on 07/19/2006 5:47:23 AM PDT by ma bell ("Take me to Pristine. I want to see the "real terrorists", Former Marine)
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To: ma bell

That's because Hoplite's ass does all the thinking for him.

14 posted on 07/19/2006 7:04:42 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Hoplite
You that wrong that Israel actions are being compared to Serbian actions. In fact it is noted that the media is finding it difficult to paint Israel in the same light as the Serbs even though they would like to; the reason being that Israel has avoided committing the atrocities that the Serbs have been accused of.

There is some evidence to back up the accusations of mass executions by Serbs but it does not rise to the scale of massive genocide to annihilate an entire population as it was portrayed.

you cite two links as evidence that Israel and Serbia are being compared but they are both from different authors unrelated to this article so what does that show?

There are some similarities but it was also note in the begining that there are differences. One differences is that Israeli reactions to attacks are more disciplined, restrained, and lawful; that is mentioned in the article.
Most similarities as I stated earlier are in the media coverage, international politics, and some of the circumstances. I know because I wrote it.

As for radical Islam in the region; give it time, it is there and when it has opportunity it will raise its ugly head again.
15 posted on 07/19/2006 8:31:44 AM PDT by inpajamas
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To: montyspython; ma bell

"That's because Hoplite's ass does all the thinking for him."

So, let me understand this.....I've heard of "Ed, The Talking Horse" in the 50 and 60's. But you're telling me that Hopletter, not to be confused with Linketter; that Hoplite has a Donkey that can talk. Wow...just imagine, a talking ass, er, uh I mean Donkey.....

16 posted on 07/19/2006 8:32:17 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill
Ed was no donkey; I use to watch him and heard him speak, he was intelligent so obviously he was Republican.

As for Hoplite's assertion that the KLA is not radical, I would just say that if I were a betting man I would not put any money on it. Everywhere Islamic militants are today, if there is not trouble there will be.
17 posted on 07/19/2006 8:44:28 AM PDT by inpajamas
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To: inpajamas

Ed was a horse....Hopless has a Donkey.....or a talking ass.....:))

Wherever Islamic radicals are there will be trouble...

18 posted on 07/19/2006 8:59:32 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: tgambill

19 posted on 07/19/2006 9:23:21 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: tgambill
Here is an example of the rhetoric in the media that I was making comparison to.

Fox News analyst compares Israelis to Nazis Bevelacqua tells O'Reilly Jewish state ruthless in Lebanon

Fox News military analyst Maj. Bob Bevelacqua, a former Green Beret, appearing tonight on "The O'Reilly Factor," compared Israeli actions in Lebanon and Gaza with Nazi actions in Russia during World War II. Bevelacqua, a long-time Fox News contributor, said the Israelis were unwilling to compromise in their conflict with Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in southern Lebanon. He denied that the Israelis willingly evacuated from Gaza and Lebanon. "Saying the Israelis pulled out of Lebanon is like saying the Nazis pulled out of Moscow," he said. "They invaded Lebanon. They invaded Gaza. They take homes and then they give them back. And they expect some type of great recognition."

Israelis like Nazis

20 posted on 07/19/2006 9:49:41 AM PDT by inpajamas
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