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Minutemen not watching over funds (Simcox Questioned Over Funds)
Washington Times. ^ | July 19, 2006 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 07/19/2006 7:30:46 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

A growing number of Minuteman Civil Defense Corps leaders and volunteers are questioning the whereabouts of hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of dollars in donations collected in the past 15 months, challenging the organization's leadership over financial accountability.

Many of the group's most active members say they have no idea how much money has been collected as part of its effort to stop illegal entry -- primarily along the U.S.-Mexico border, what it has been spent on or why it has been funneled through a Virginia-based charity headed by conservative Alan Keyes.

Several of the group's top lieutenants have either quit or are threatening to do so, saying requests to Minuteman President Chris Simcox for a financial accounting have been ignored....."

"..... The Minuteman organization has not made any financial statements or fundraising records public since its April 2005 creation. It also has sought and received extensions of its federal reporting requirements and has not given the Minuteman leadership, its volunteers or donors any official accounting. A financial statement promised to The Times by Mr. Simcox for May was never delivered....."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; corruption; crime; crooks; immigrantlist; immigration; keyes; minuteman; minutemanproject; minutemen; mmp; showmethemoney; simcox
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Lots of stuff in this one.
1 posted on 07/19/2006 7:30:48 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

The Bush-Hate posts begin......NOW.


2 posted on 07/19/2006 7:32:46 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.savethesoldiers.com/)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

This should be good, I should get a 12-Pack right now.....and Beer Nuts


3 posted on 07/19/2006 7:34:20 PM PDT by cmsgop ( President Mahmud Ahmadinejad Must Purify Himself in The Waters of Lake Minnetonka)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I am not good about keeping my own books. That doesn't mean I am stealing from myself, it is just one of those things I do not like to do.


4 posted on 07/19/2006 7:36:30 PM PDT by msnimje (There is no way we can lose if we stay in Iraq and no way we can win if we cut and run.)
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To: cmsgop; xcullen; Anti-Bubba182; Mo1; cyncooper; BillF; crushkerry; Howlin; backhoe

Should be!


5 posted on 07/19/2006 7:36:32 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: cmsgop

Simcox brought this on himself. Even if nothing was misappropriated it still doesn't look right.


6 posted on 07/19/2006 7:37:07 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear

This is the Washington Times this time. It is not a border group competitor or local news outfit. Spinning out of this will be tougher.


7 posted on 07/19/2006 7:41:22 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Maybe he's got a Mexican mistress on the side and is blowing the money on trips to Vegas.


8 posted on 07/19/2006 7:41:45 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Anti-Bubba182

9 posted on 07/19/2006 7:44:10 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Anti-Bubba182
....or why it has been funneled through a Virginia-based charity headed by conservative Alan Keyes.

Oh my, this doesn't look good for Keyes.

10 posted on 07/19/2006 7:45:54 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Anti-Bubba182
This is the Washington Times this time.

They'll say that the WashTimes is actually the New York Times' Washington newspaper.

11 posted on 07/19/2006 7:46:14 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Hmmm, looks like an opening for a private-based OMB. Just proof that bureaucracies are not limited to government.


12 posted on 07/19/2006 7:47:39 PM PDT by Muleteam1
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

13 posted on 07/19/2006 7:47:44 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; Amelia; catholicfreeper; Texasforever; nopardons; onyx; Mo1

Looks like that time.


14 posted on 07/19/2006 7:48:32 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Howlin

FYI......Seper of The Washington Times on Simcox, Minute Men, unaccounted for donations. (Me: Why channeled through Keyes?)


15 posted on 07/19/2006 7:51:24 PM PDT by Carolinamom (Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue. ---Barry Goldwater)
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To: JeanS

No it doesn't look good. He and Simcox will have to deal with this.


16 posted on 07/19/2006 7:53:09 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

They had better have an accounting firm. Unless they want to be trashed in the public's opinion, a reputable firm or an established CPA is essential.


17 posted on 07/19/2006 8:02:02 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: GladesGuru

I would think this will get his attention. Keyes certainly will notice.


18 posted on 07/19/2006 8:04:16 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Which one of you is Jerry?

He lifted posts from FreeRepublic on the 2500 post thread.

Nothing new except for charges from 1 new person.

I guess you cant wait until November to ream him, eh?


19 posted on 07/19/2006 8:07:27 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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To: Anti-Bubba182; Lurker

Ping and a favor. Take the defense here and keep the stooge EVie are far away as possible. Thanks.


20 posted on 07/19/2006 8:11:34 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: axes_of_weezles

LOL! We are everywhere........!


21 posted on 07/19/2006 8:12:13 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
he said, blaming the concern about his leadership and accountability on open borders and anti-rule of law lobbyists, racists and "those who were terminated from MCDC for violating our code of conduct."

He's now calling his former (Gary Cole) national director of operations, a racist ????

22 posted on 07/19/2006 8:12:15 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1

If Simcox is finding all the racists in high positions in his
organization, why was he charging fifty bucks a head for a Screening Fee? Doesn't appear to have worked?


23 posted on 07/19/2006 8:15:55 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

You are not everywhere. But when you make unsubstantiated charges on a borders thread, they get copied to other sites like it or not. Anyone can read the posts that has internet access and a web browser by doing searches.

Thanks for aiding border security opponents.

In the end, you had better start investigating all the front page links that Jim has up; you might find similar circumstances on them. RenewUS is still on the front page.

You are a hypocrite of the first degree.


24 posted on 07/19/2006 8:18:02 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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To: Anti-Bubba182

This is starting to sound like patriotism for fun and profit. I guess that there are those that believe and those that take money from the believers.


25 posted on 07/19/2006 8:22:53 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: axes_of_weezles
And you are crazier than an outhouse Rat!

Do you really think anyone at FR has the power to fix the Washington Times, or that their reporters won't check on their own?

Man, your tinfoil is on too tight!

26 posted on 07/19/2006 8:25:23 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
One former Minuteman volunteer said the fence "wouldn't stop a tricycle."

The fence is, after all, why all this money is purportedly being collected, and a scrawny steer could knock it down.

Of course, in another FOUR MONTHS, Simcox's hand-picked accountant will deliver his $50,000 audit.

27 posted on 07/19/2006 8:25:25 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Texasforever

It's hit the national news now, and Simcox has nowhere to hide.


28 posted on 07/19/2006 8:27:16 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Actually they all really care about the issues, but all of a sudden there is a lot of money around and that can change people.


29 posted on 07/19/2006 8:27:36 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182; catholicfreeper; onyx; Howlin; Texasforever
"I agree that the Minuteman volunteers and those who donated money to us have a right to know how much has been collected and on what it has been spent, and I know there is a lot of concern in the ranks regarding finances," Mr. Simcox told The Times. "That's why I sought capable accountants to get those answers, and I intend to make them public as soon as they are available.

"I can't wait for the final audit to answer and embarrass our critics, those who have tried to destroy this organization," he said, blaming the concern about his leadership and accountability on open borders and anti-rule of law lobbyists, racists and "those who were terminated from MCDC for violating our code of conduct."

I think I've heard these talking points before. Do they sound familiar to you?

30 posted on 07/19/2006 8:31:12 PM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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To: sinkspur
"Of course, in another FOUR MONTHS, Simcox's hand-picked accountant will deliver his $50,000 audit"

It had better be good, it certainly will be closely examined. At this point this is looking like a fraud case in the making. It may not come to that, but lots of questions and bad press often go before legal problems.

31 posted on 07/19/2006 8:31:17 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Amelia

It is sounding a lot stronger in the Washington Times.


32 posted on 07/19/2006 8:32:28 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
why was he charging fifty bucks a head for a Screening Fee? Doesn't appear to have worked?

Very Good point!

33 posted on 07/19/2006 8:32:58 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Anti-Bubba182

spew on as you wish. Still nothing but unsubstantiated charges, no matter what you or the Washington Times says.

Without facts all you are doing is putting information out on the web to be rehashed and used again.

There is nothing new in this article that has not been posted on the last three threads.

This Times article has not convinced me. Its a collection of hearsay, and sour grapes with little facts.

You are dumber than an outhouse rat. When you point fingers there are 3 pointing back at the originating source.


Find out whose organization this is; and why Jim has it on the front page. You might ask him.

http://www.renewamerica.us/

Find out who owns and runs it. It's the same folks you are slandering in these posts.

Duh.


34 posted on 07/19/2006 8:38:20 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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To: Anti-Bubba182

A great common law judge said "The Devil himself knows not the mind of man." We can only see a man's actions and at this time it does not look good. Think of all the people that gave in good faith. There are a lot of people making a lot of money off of good people who believe.


35 posted on 07/19/2006 8:39:36 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: JeanS
Oh my, this doesn't look good for Keyes.

Are you surprised?

36 posted on 07/19/2006 8:40:39 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: axes_of_weezles

Take it up with the Times. They must think it is good information or they would not have published it.


37 posted on 07/19/2006 8:41:01 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: BunnySlippers

I'm not surprised because leftwing websites have been running with this story for weeks. I hope Seper has legitimate sources because these are serious accusations.


38 posted on 07/19/2006 8:47:05 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: catholicfreeper

ping


39 posted on 07/19/2006 8:47:33 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Anti-Bubba182
It is sounding a lot stronger in the Washington Times.

They don't seem to have done quite all their homework yet. For instance, there's this line from Dr. Keyes:

"I have wished to do all in my power to assist the Minutemen's growth into a national civic movement as quickly as possible — as the public exposure of the lawless state of our southern border is a matter of utmost urgency," he said, adding that his "organizational team has an established history of effective issues advocacy, grass-roots activism, political campaigning, financial accountability, regulatory compliance and fundraising."

The Washington Times should read the FEC filings for Keyes' Declaration Alliance PAC. They will discover that 95% of the funds collected went for fundraising, and only 5% for the stated purpose of the PAC.

They'll also discover that the DAPAC told the FEC that none of its funds were spent for or against any specific federal candidates, when in fact the purpose of the PAC is campaigning for strict conservatives and against liberals.

This was documented on another thread last week.

40 posted on 07/19/2006 8:48:13 PM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

So you and the other posters are stirring the pot so he has to pay for a whole firm full, just to give answers about finances he legally does not have to answer.

Thanks a lot.

I hope you are just as inquisitive of other political volunteer organizations, including all the ones you personally approve of.


I hope they let you keep the gloves on for the proctological examination.


41 posted on 07/19/2006 8:50:24 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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To: Amelia
I think the WT may have been on this for awhile:

"A financial statement promised to The Times by Mr. Simcox for May was never delivered. "

42 posted on 07/19/2006 8:51:57 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Amelia
"The Washington Times should read the FEC filings for Keyes' Declaration Alliance PAC. They will discover that 95% of the funds collected went for fundraising, and only 5% for the stated purpose of the PAC."

I didn't know that.

43 posted on 07/19/2006 8:53:17 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: sinkspur
Of course, in another FOUR MONTHS, Simcox's hand-picked accountant will deliver his $50,000 audit.

Are audits usually that expensive? I am almost positive that our county government doesn't pay that much.

44 posted on 07/19/2006 8:53:38 PM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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To: Amelia

Looks like he's already collected $1.6 mil, and collecting more every day, so 50k is peanuts.


45 posted on 07/19/2006 8:55:53 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Amelia
He'll need a really good auditor.
46 posted on 07/19/2006 8:56:41 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Amelia
Are audits usually that expensive? I am almost positive that our county government doesn't pay that much.

Last year, the private company I work for paid $75,000 to audit it, a $180 million, multi-national corporation.

So, go figure.

47 posted on 07/19/2006 9:01:46 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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I didn't know that.

Go here and here.

Catholicfreeper found the data & linked the FEC report, and I summed it up. I suggested that others check my math, and no one corrected me, so....

This post also had some information to back up my post above, again based on some information catholicfreeper uncovered.

48 posted on 07/19/2006 9:02:20 PM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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To: Rex Anderson
Jake "Greasy Thumb" Guzik


49 posted on 07/19/2006 9:02:57 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Rex Anderson; sinkspur; Anti-Bubba182

Well, I don't think anyone has ever accused the Washington TIMES of being a left-wing propaganda rag before, but I guess some people will now...


50 posted on 07/19/2006 9:04:34 PM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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