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Democrats Set to Shake Up Primary Calendar (2008)
Associated Press ^ | July 21, 2006 | WILL LESTER

Posted on 07/21/2006 1:12:27 AM PDT by RWR8189

Democrats are on track to jumble the states in the presidential primary calendar in response to growing criticism that the same predominantly white states hold many of the cards in early voting.

And not even complaints from a former president and a half-dozen White House hopefuls can stop them.

Iowa would still go first in the new calendar, but a Western state - possibly Nevada or Arizona - would be wedged in before the New Hampshire primary. A Southern state - possibly Alabama or South Carolina - would follow New Hampshire.

The national Democrats' rules and bylaws committee expects to vote on the proposal this weekend.

Critical Democratic constituencies such as blacks and Hispanics have clamored for a major role in early primary voting, arguing that Iowa and New Hampshire are hardly reflective of a diverse electorate.

Iowa's white population is 95 percent, New Hampshire's is 96.2 percent, according to the latest Census numbers.

"I was surprised by how deeply Hispanics and blacks feel they are not part of the process," said Harold Ickes, a veteran Democratic activist and member of the rules committee. "I think it's a done deal."

Hispanics comprise more than 20 percent of the population in Nevada and Arizona. In Alabama and South Carolina, blacks make up nearly 30 percent, based on the latest Census numbers.

"The momentum for this change has been building for many, many years," said Donna Brazile, a party activist, member of the rules committee and a black.

Still, the potential loss of pre-eminence for New Hampshire - a state that demands retail politicking skills of its candidates - has upset the state Democratic leaders and stirred resistance among some familiar names.

Former President Clinton said last month that he opposes the addition of a caucus between Iowa and New Hampshire because he "worries about the continued compressing of the calendar robbing the candidates of the opportunity to do what they have to do."

Clinton said his wife, White House hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., "has exactly the same feeling I do."

Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana said Democrats should keep the primary calendar as is, a view echoed by Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts, Joe Biden of Delaware, Russell Feingold of Wisconsin and former Sen. Tom Daschle of South Dakota.

Their complaints may have come too late.

"This process has been going on for more than two years," said commission co-chair Jim Roosevelt, arguing that doubts about the additional contests are a recent phenomenon.

Members of the Democratic committee plan to choose one state to hold a caucus between Iowa and New Hampshire and one state to hold a primary after New Hampshire. The Democratic National Committee will vote on the recommendation later this year.

Ten states plus the District of Columbia have applied: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Hawaii, Michigan, Mississippi, Nevada, South Carolina and West Virginia.

New Hampshire Secretary of State William Gardner is watching closely to determine whether the Democrats' actions comply with state law requiring that the primary be scheduled a week or more before any "similar election."

Blacks and Hispanics are core constituencies for the Democrats. Blacks made up 21 percent of the vote for Kerry in 2004 and chose him over President Bush by a 9-to-1 margin, according to exit polls.

Hispanics made up 9 percent of Kerry's support and more than half of that group supported the Democratic candidate. Republicans have been gaining ground, however, securing the support of roughly four in 10 Hispanic voters in 2004.

The Democrat most responsible for pushing the changes is determined that Democrats move ahead with the changes.

"New Hampshire seems to think they have a God-given right to have the lion's share of attention from the presidential candidates," said Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan. "There's such a broad consensus in the party, I don't foresee us backing off."

Former DNC Chairman Don Fowler has his doubts about additional contests.

"If we put two more in there," Fowler said, "we're going to have the nominee before other states have a chance to participate."


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008primaries; demprimaries; election2008; electionpresident

1 posted on 07/21/2006 1:12:32 AM PDT by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

Dems are desperate to get away from Lib Dems and small media markets where dark horses can compete, driving the main candidates to the left, in favor of Larger, more expensive markets where only the chosen few by the DNC/Washington money-power cabals have a chance....

This keeps the candidate from revealing the true Dem agendas(lying to get elected)......


2 posted on 07/21/2006 1:30:19 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Terrorism-You Reap What You Appease........)
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To: tcrlaf

Nevada? Isn't that a lily white state as well


3 posted on 07/21/2006 1:53:36 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Labs Rules! Brilliant!)
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To: Thebaddog
from Wikipedia:

Demographics

The racial/ethnic makeup of the state is:


4 posted on 07/21/2006 2:02:05 AM PDT by RWR8189 (George Allen for President)
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To: RWR8189

What is Harry up to? Does inserting his state into he mix help or hurt Hil?


5 posted on 07/21/2006 2:14:36 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Labs Rules! Brilliant!)
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To: Thebaddog

Probably help, Blacks and Hispanics seem to like her a lot.


6 posted on 07/21/2006 2:28:08 AM PDT by Hong Kong Expat
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To: RWR8189

It would seem as though all they are doing is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. But het, they are Dems after all, it's not like they follow logic or anything.....


7 posted on 07/21/2006 2:59:27 AM PDT by chief_bigfoot (Welcome to America. Please leave your hyphenation at the border.)
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To: RWR8189
"I was surprised by how deeply Hispanics and blacks feel they are not part of the process," said Harold Ickes, a veteran Democratic activist and member of the rules committee. "I think it's a done deal."

And we know why the deal is going to be done. (Pay no attention to what Slick was quoted as saying in the article. He's only being quoted, Ickes is doing her bidding.)

8 posted on 07/21/2006 3:03:11 AM PDT by Dahoser (Time to condense the stupid party nonsense: Terry Tate for RNC chairman.)
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To: chief_bigfoot

It may be rearranging of deck chairs, but it would dilute the influence of the northeastern liberal establishment, which southern black democrats and western hispanic democrats see as out-of-touch with mainstream America. That northeastern establishment hasn't produced a winner for the party since JFK in 1960, why give it the biggest say in whom the party nominates?


9 posted on 07/21/2006 3:29:11 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: RWR8189

Sounds like they might be trying to stack the deck in an effort to avoid a disaster in '08.


10 posted on 07/21/2006 3:59:38 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: tcrlaf
Zimbabwe will replace New Hampshire as the first primary state...
11 posted on 07/21/2006 4:13:16 AM PDT by Defendingliberty (www.gulagthebear.com)
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To: RWR8189
"Critical Democratic constituencies such as blacks and Hispanics have clamored for a major role in early primary voting"

If Senator Clinton is opposed to this, that that means this is NOT a ploy/tactic of the DNC to stack the deck or anything.

Sounds like some Hispanic and black lobby groups are flexing their newfound muscle and are letting reps know about it. When Latinos get fired up about something, they can organize huge groups of people overnight it's amazing. They want a bigger stake in shaping the nomination adding another "minority" state in there. If you think about it, the Iowa/NH thing has been such a standard for so long, it really is kinda a way to shake things up, and its difficult to oppose cause it's just a poll and not a law or bill or something.

12 posted on 07/21/2006 4:17:14 AM PDT by rjp2005
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To: rjp2005

If they want muscle, vote Replican a couple of cycles.


13 posted on 07/21/2006 4:39:41 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Labs Rules! Brilliant!)
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To: RWR8189
I don't think changing the primary system is such a bad thing. As someone from a state with a late primary, it is frustrating that the choice of presidential candidates is usually pretty well set in stone by the time my turn to vote comes around. I don't quite see why someone in Iowa or New Hamphsire should have a primary vote that counts a lot more than those of people in other states. I wouldn't mind having all the primaries moved to be much closer together.
14 posted on 07/21/2006 4:59:57 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: tcrlaf

15 posted on 07/21/2006 5:00:22 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: SmoothTalker
It is important to have the early primaries in small states with open minded swing voters. With big states, all you have to do is carpet bomb the airwaves with tv ads. In small states, they expect to see you in flesh and blood. NH has less than 800,000 registered voters.

And if you look at the 2000-2004 elections, NH and Iowa were both nearly 50-50 in each. What is the point of having a primary in Utah or District of Columbia. They are meaningless in the big picture.

16 posted on 07/21/2006 5:12:25 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Thebaddog

They do here in Florida, thankfully. Many who move here are sick of socialism and stick with Christian principles that many Republicans uphold.


17 posted on 07/21/2006 5:32:58 AM PDT by rjp2005
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To: Thebaddog

They do here in Florida, thankfully. Many who move here are sick of socialism and stick with Christian principles that many Republicans uphold.


18 posted on 07/21/2006 5:35:00 AM PDT by rjp2005
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To: Defendingliberty
>>>>"If we put two more in there," Fowler said, "we're going to have the nominee before other states have a chance to participate."

As if Iowa and New Hampshire don't select our Presidential candidates already.
19 posted on 07/21/2006 7:45:28 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (The Right must repudiate Durka-Durka Buchanan Jihad.)
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