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But one participant retorted, “I thought this was a spiritual progressives’ conference. I don’t want to play the game of ‘the Bible says this or that,’ or that we get validation from something other than ourselves.”

If this guy used his Bible, he would have found this verse:
There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.--Proverbs 14:12, NIV

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1 posted on 07/21/2006 9:23:09 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback
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2 posted on 07/21/2006 9:23:35 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Howard Dean thinks I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.)
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I can't stand tolerance.
3 posted on 07/21/2006 9:24:08 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Remember, the Liberals Hate Us More than They Hate Bush.)
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4 posted on 07/21/2006 9:24:37 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Howard Dean thinks I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.)
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I think the author missed out that the participants already have a unifying theme - that their judgement exceeds that of God, therefore they should have the right to set the rules of religion.


5 posted on 07/21/2006 9:25:30 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Famous last words: "what does ibtz mean?")
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“taking back religion from the conservative Christians.”

Doesn't taking something back imply you had it to begin with? Lefty "religious" types are the most arrogant, self-centered, and hypocritical group I've ever encountered.

6 posted on 07/21/2006 9:26:22 AM PDT by hometoroost (TSA = Thousands Standing Around)
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They have no tolerance.

Public display of faith is verbotten.

They have envy in their hearts for the goods someone else has. Everyone wants the fast track to riches (greed) but they despise the rich (envy).

They also preach hedonism (if it feels good, do it) and denounce the teaching of moral restraint.


8 posted on 07/21/2006 9:29:14 AM PDT by weegee (Call Ted Kennedy's office and tell them you would've called 10 hours ago but couldn't get to a phone)
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I heard recently that the tri-ennial conference of the Episcopal Church failed to approve a resolution affirming that Jesus Christ is the only name by which a man can be saved.

I suppose that's fine if they don't want to believe that, but why do they not call themselves the Episcopal Country Club?

Shalom.

11 posted on 07/21/2006 9:31:19 AM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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"I thought this was a spiritual progressives’ conference. I don’t want to play the game of ‘the Bible says this or that,’ or that we get validation from something other than ourselves."

I wonder what the word "spiritual" means to these people? Does it mean "what makes me feel good?"

Shalom.

13 posted on 07/21/2006 9:32:33 AM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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"I really like Tony. He’s honest, and he loves the Bible."

He should drop that - and quick.

Campolo is a "change agent" working to subvert Evangelical Christianity - hence his presence at this abominable conference.
14 posted on 07/21/2006 9:33:15 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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Chuck Colson, the man who ordered the Watergate break-in and destroyed a President.


15 posted on 07/21/2006 9:35:56 AM PDT by Skylab
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From Revelations 3: 14...

"To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:

These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God's creation. 15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. 17 You say, 'I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.' But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. 18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see."

The liberal Christian Church is today's Laodecia.


16 posted on 07/21/2006 9:37:10 AM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" – Anonymous)
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I was thinking about my classroom as I was reading this article and imagining what it would be like if I allowed every viewpoint and every opinion from every student to shape the curriculum, the lesson plans, the tests, and the final exam.

In fact, I used to go the Unitarian church, back when they were Christians. I wouldn't dare expose my son to what passes for religious thought there now. In fact, it seems quite clear from this vantage that life consists of choices and ethical judgment, and those of us who have a solid foundation based on a sound tradition are better off than someone who can't make up his or her mind or, worse yet, can't make a judgment about the actions and the beliefs of other people and yourself.

Someone once told me that consensus is the absence of leadership. Yep.


19 posted on 07/21/2006 9:41:14 AM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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Tony Campolo certainly recognized this. Though Tony and I disagree on lots of things, I really like Tony. He’s honest, and he loves the Bible.

I don't like Campolo, and I would consider him neither honest, nor a lover of the Word of God.
21 posted on 07/21/2006 9:42:44 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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It can not be argued by anyone that the party that supports abortion has a religious foundation.
29 posted on 07/21/2006 9:52:16 AM PDT by msnimje
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34 posted on 07/21/2006 9:56:26 AM PDT by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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You can't be tolerant of the devil.
39 posted on 07/21/2006 10:06:12 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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43 posted on 07/21/2006 10:15:16 AM PDT by Gritty (The 'moral superiority' of our elites smugly masks their own massive moral paralysis - Diana West)
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You see, that’s the crux of the liberals’ problem. This conflict is not about political or social divisions. It’s about authority—specifically, whether or not Christians are willing to acknowledge that the Bible is our authority.

Another "crux" of the problem is liberals see religion as a horse to ride to victory, not as an expression of their heartfelt religious beliefs.

63 posted on 07/21/2006 1:15:23 PM PDT by GOPJ
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bump


66 posted on 07/22/2006 8:49:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (Evolution: It's not "one" missing link - ALL the links are missing.)
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Don't' be deceived by the ecumenicalism of Chuck Colson and other New Evangelicals. They are wolves in sheep's clothing.

Part I: New Evangelicalism - Its History
Part II: New Evangelicalism - Its Chracteristics
Part III: New Evangelicalism - Its Fruits

OUTLINE:

I. The History of New Evangelicalism

II. The Influence of New Evangelicalism

III. The Principles of New Evangelicalism

a. New Evangelicalism is characterized by a repudiation of separation.

b. New Evangelicalism New Evangelicalism is characterized by replacing separation with dialogue.

c. New Evangelicalism is characterized by a love for positivism, by a repudiation of the more negative aspects of biblical Christianity, by a judge-not philosophy, by a dislike of doctrinal controversy.

d. New Evangelicalism is characterized by exalting love and unity above doctrine.

e. New Evangelicalism is characterized by a pragmatic approach to the ministry.

f. New Evangelicalism is characterized by a desire for intellectual respectability, by pride of scholarship.

g. New Evangelicalism is characterized by an attitude of anti-fundamentalism.

h. New Evangelicalism is characterized by an inconsistency, by contradiction.

i. New Evangelicalism is characterized by the division of biblical truth into categories of important and not important.

j. New Evangelicalism is characterized by exalting social-political activity to the same level as the Great Commission.

k. New Evangelicalism is characterized by a mood of softness, a desire for a less strict Christianity, a weariness with fighting, a neutrality toward spiritual warfare.

IV. The Fruit of New Evangelicalism

68 posted on 07/23/2006 12:47:07 AM PDT by Search4Truth (Hosea 4:6 warns, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge…”)
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