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Yes America, It's A World War
J.D. Pendry | 07/22/2005 | J.D. Pendry

Posted on 07/22/2006 8:41:09 PM PDT by JDPendry

Yes America, It’s a World War

 

J. D. Pendry

 

“It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it.”  - General Douglas MacArthur, 1952

 

Terrorism is not our enemy.  Terrorism is the preferred tactic employed against the non-Islamic world by our enemy, the Islamic-Nazis.  You cannot fight a war against a tactic.  You can counter most tactics, but the only counter to terrorism is the complete destruction of the enemy that uses it.  You don’t fight drugs.  You fight drug dealers. 

 

The Islamic-Nazis employ terror tactics like raining unguided ball-bearing filled rockets onto civilian populations.  I don’t hear media or international calls for restraint on their part or any talk about the civilian casualties they cause – and we’re talking about a fight they picked and have picked each and every time.  They start these fights because they know the international “community” will perform as usual by calling for a cease-fire, which allows them to crawl back into their rat holes, lick their wounds and regroup for more acts of terror.  It’s been the cycle for too long.  Now (using a relatively new buzz phrase) in a post 9/11 world, it’s time to end it.

 

The enemy uses terror as its means to influence populations through fear.  Through terror, they hope to achieve war’s first objective – destroying your opponents will to fight.  To paraphrase General MacArthur, when you don’t have the will to end it, don’t get in it.  When terror tactics work, popular support for opposing the terrorists degrades.  Then they begin to impose their will on the general population.  That’s how the Taliban and Al-Qaeda did it and it’s how Hezbollah and Hamas are doing it.  They’re not much for the clean, precision warfare modern military forces use.  It wouldn’t serve their purposes.  They want to inflict as many casualties as possible on a population, indiscriminately and with extreme prejudice.  For as long as they’re allowed to do it.

 

Our value for life does not permit us to fight wars in the same manner as our enemy.  They see that as a weakness, we view it as our strength.  You can make the argument that our bombing campaigns against Japanese and German cities during World War II were terror campaigns that eventually destroyed the will of those populations to continue the fight.  It would be a shallow argument, however, because there is much more to it than that.  You must seek ways to degrade an enemy’s popular support, but when you cannot destroy his will to fight, you must destroy his capacity to fight.  You must take way what enables him to continue.  In World War II, we bombed the cities, but in so doing, we also destroyed the industrial complexes that produced the materials the enemy needed to continue the fight.  When he no longer has the capacity to continue the fight, an enemy’s destruction is imminent.

 

When al-Qaeda attacked us on 9/11, they had an entire country as a safe haven.  The Taliban government, which harbored and supported al-Qaeda, ruled the Afghan people through absolute terror.  We promptly took out that government and as a result scattered al-Qaeda.  Although still an enemy, regardless what most media and select politicians would have you believe, we have severely degraded their capacity to operate against us and continue the fight.  We will further hasten their end when our actions in politics and the media focus on killing them instead of enabling them.

 

Proportionality?  It’s a term that does not fit into a war winning strategy.  Response is proportionate when we win and they’re destroyed.  One thing I find quite interesting is that liberal Americans using the proportionality argument are the same people who derided, and still do, President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld for not employing in Iraq the Powell doctrine of massive, overwhelming force to crush the enemy (country) quickly.  We are where we are because of proportionality, restraint, land for peace….  Israel is in its current predicament because she did what the world asked.  She showed restraint and gave up land for promises of peace.  The result of diplomacy or negotiations with terrorists is that concessions made, while hoping for peace, are a sign to them of weakness.  Hoping for peace or negotiating for peace with people who want to remove you from the face of the earth will not get you peace.  Pounding the ever-loving snot out of terrorists probably won’t get it done either.  Unless you remove what enables them to continue, they’ll be back.  We need to dredge up the will to pound the snot out of those who enable – give the capacity to – the terrorists to continue. 

 

The Tomahawk Cruise Missile is the world’s best long-range sniper weapon.  They’re expensive bullets, but worth the price if they remove the enablers of terror from Tehran and Damascus.  There is no need for us to fret over Iranian nuclear sites; we only need to remove the Islamic-Nazis who want to use nuclear weapons to terrorize us further.  And, while we’re at it, Kim Jong Il can witness successful missiles firing.

 

If there is any doubt left in your mind that this is a World War that we’re in, review the speech of Iranian Parliament Speaker Gholam-Ali Haddad 'Adel, made July 18, 2006.  Yes America, It’s a World War and unless you’re an Islamic-Nazi, like it or not, you’re an Israeli.

 

Copyright © 2006 J.D. Pendry

 


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1 posted on 07/22/2006 8:41:11 PM PDT by JDPendry
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To: JDPendry

Excellent post!


2 posted on 07/22/2006 8:56:56 PM PDT by Family Guy (I disagree with what you said, but I'll defend to the death your right to shut up.)
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To: JDPendry
In my humble opinion, I do not agree with your stance that this is WW III.

Similar things to that said by Iran were said by Vietnam and other countries, with whom we started war decades ago.

This is not at the level of a World War any more than Gulf War I was. That said, we will need to remain vigilant for years to come.
3 posted on 07/22/2006 8:58:08 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: JDPendry

save


4 posted on 07/22/2006 9:04:27 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: JDPendry
We will further hasten their end when our actions in politics and the media focus on killing them instead of enabling them.

Proportionality? It’s a term that does not fit into a war winning strategy. Response is proportionate when we win and they’re destroyed.

Outstanding! Welcome aboard!

5 posted on 07/22/2006 9:06:07 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: JDPendry
Hi All-

Absolutely correct that our battle isn't against terrorism, it's against the vile Islamic jihadists who use terrorism as their preferred tactic of influencing Western culture. Time to call a spade a spade.

~ Blue Jays ~

6 posted on 07/22/2006 9:11:10 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: ConservativeMind; JDPendry

I agree with CM. As one FReeper noted in the MidEast Live thread for today, its not an "official" World War until France surrenders to somebody.


7 posted on 07/22/2006 9:14:08 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [This is some nasty...])
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To: JDPendry

Well said.


8 posted on 07/22/2006 9:14:18 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: JDPendry

Excellent piece and exactly right.

And despite our understandable preference to keep our war separate from Israel's, the fact is that they have become quite explicitly the same war. We confront the same enemy. In Iraq we face forces that are supplied and directed by Iran and Syria; they go by different names but the Israelis also face enemies supplied and directed by, who? Iran and Syria.

Our war is not over while those forces are still able to operate in Iraq, and they will not be defeated until they have been cut off from their godfathers over the border. Israel's war will never end while Hezbollah is able to operate in any country neighboring Israel. If they stop at the Litani River they have actually been defeated; all Hezbollah needs for a victory is to survive this assault. The situation requires something much more ambitious than a few forays into south Lebanon, this war is a failure if they do not clear out the Bekaa, it is a mere stopgap if they don't bring down the Assads.

The Assads are our problem and they are Israel's problem. The convergence of interests is probably what will keep us out of the war, however illogical it sounds, since we are still trying to pretend that our war is distinct from theirs for understandable reasons. But the two wars are the same war.

I have to admit I want to see Israel or better yet the US Marines seize the Bekaa Valley for a variety of reasons, and seizing the Bekaa means war with Syria. But we are already at war with Syria, we just prefer not to admit it.


9 posted on 07/22/2006 9:14:40 PM PDT by marron
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To: JDPendry
Proportionality? It’s a term that does not fit into a war winning strategy.

Amen to that...and if we do not figure this out at the highest levels of our own government, we will face events similar to those described in the series of novels I wrote:

THE DRAGON'S FURY SERIES

There was nothing proportional in what we did in World War II to defeat the Fascists anbd Imperialists. We face a danger even greater today when you add the potential of nuclear weapons.

10 posted on 07/22/2006 9:15:26 PM PDT by Jeff Head (God, family, country)
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To: ConservativeMind
... I do not agree ... that this is WW III. ... we will need to remain vigilant for years to come.

You may not think it is a world war. The Islamo-Nazis, however, do. As once "the sun never set on the British Empire," the sun now never sets on the bastages wreaking havoc somewhere. "Remain[ing] vigilant" is just another word for waiting for it to happen again.

11 posted on 07/22/2006 9:18:15 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid...even by congressional standards.)
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To: JDPendry
"We need to dredge up the will to pound the snot out of those who enable – give the capacity to – the terrorists to continue. "

Amen.

There were no innocent civilians in Japan or Germany during WW-2. There are no 'innocent' Islamists now. Kill all the bastards.

12 posted on 07/22/2006 9:20:25 PM PDT by blam
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To: JDPendry
The enemy uses terror as its means to influence populations through fear. Through terror, they hope to achieve war’s first objective – destroying your opponents will to fight. To paraphrase General MacArthur, when you don’t have the will to end it, don’t get in it. When terror tactics work, popular support for opposing the terrorists degrades. Then they begin to impose their will on the general population. That’s how the Taliban and Al-Qaeda did it and it’s how Hezbollah and Hamas are doing it. They’re not much for the clean, precision warfare modern military forces use. It wouldn’t serve their purposes. They want to inflict as many casualties as possible on a population, indiscriminately and with extreme prejudice. For as long as they’re allowed to do it.

"For as long as they're allowed..." That should wake up a few sitting on the fence. Great post.

13 posted on 07/22/2006 9:20:33 PM PDT by GOPJ (Evolution: It's not "one" missing link - ALL the links are missing.)
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To: Jeff Head

Just ordered it.

:)


14 posted on 07/22/2006 9:21:03 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: JDPendry

The powers that be in this nation, both parties, will never subscribe to this action. Therefore, this nation will be at war with terrorism till the end of time.


15 posted on 07/22/2006 9:27:28 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: JDPendry
It's just simply amazing to me that despite the fact that Islamic-Nazis terror is spreading, it is still impossible to get any Democrat leader to even being to say were in a World War. It is fascinating how terror is so openly promoted in the Democrat party. Why? Because their street demonstrations are in support of "peace at any price" and in so doing, it emboldened the murderers and achieved not peace, but its opposite. History shows once again that appeasing terrorists emboldens them to more violence.
16 posted on 07/22/2006 9:34:25 PM PDT by FreeRep
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To: JDPendry

The Islamic world vs the U.S. and Israel, doesn't really rise to the level of a world war.

But I do not want our administration to even publicly recognize that we are at war with most if not all of Islam, for the simple reason that we have been able to go in and piecemeal this war, taking out one target at a time.

And I think that is a far better strategy that to declare war on Islam.


17 posted on 07/22/2006 9:38:05 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: JDPendry

Interesting


18 posted on 07/22/2006 9:40:11 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: L,TOWM
>"I agree with CM. As one FReeper noted in the MidEast Live thread for today, its not an "official" World War until France surrenders to somebody."

Well, they burned Paris for a month, but nobody showed up for the cheese eatin surrender monkeys to surrender to. If they would have showed up, it would have been allah fromage.

19 posted on 07/22/2006 9:45:18 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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To: rawcatslyentist

In a press conference I saw some expert in international relations praise and congratulate Condi Rice on keeeping the Security Council members together. Last week they got agreement on a statement at the G8. And, they have obviously been working the Arabs. Bush may have annoyed people when he tiptoed through the tulips hand in hand with the king of Saudia Arabia in Crawford, but it paid off when king Abdulla reproached the adventures of Hezbollah. Not bad for a unilateralist, the one who referred to himself as a uniter not a divider. It must be like herding cats to achieve cooperation of so many different countries. Also, doesn't seem like the run up to worldwide conflagration, either.


20 posted on 07/22/2006 9:57:24 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: JDPendry

It is a World War. Muslims are using terror across the globe against "infidels." Some of the places Muslims have attacked or tried to attack include: Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, Thailand, Bali, UK, France, Italy, Netherlands, Russia, India, Turkey, Egypt, USA, Canada, Somalia, Nigeria, Sudan, Tunisia, Lebanon, Jordan, etc. I'm including plots/attacks since mid-1990s, as our Al Qaeda problem started then. 9/11 was just the biggest. We were in a low level war for decades, but just ignored it, or appeased the enemy. It has many branches, but it's all the same. Jihad.


21 posted on 07/22/2006 9:57:36 PM PDT by PghBaldy (I'm sick of the media leaks & lies. God Bless America.)
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To: ClaireSolt

Excellent point about Saudi especially.


22 posted on 07/22/2006 9:59:18 PM PDT by PghBaldy (I'm sick of the media leaks & lies. God Bless America.)
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To: JDPendry
"Rough men

There's a character trait that's decided by fate
Comes (sadly) to many, far too faint, far too late.
They won't face the aggressor, stand up to his ire
They have not the will to fight his fire with fire.
So they bend over backwards to see all sides as fair,
Till they're faced with dragon breath fire in their hair.
Like our brethren in France, who'd know better than we,
Yet seem never to learn, seem doomed never to see.

Yes, it seems there are some who're determined by fate,
To possess not the courage to step up to the plate,
Who shrink from all threat because nothing's worth war.
But how can they know lest they've been there before?
Thank God some have courage, the will, yes, the grace,
To stand for the shirkers, stand strong in their place.
Thank God we have stalwarts who'll stand for us all,
Who will rise to the challenge at their nation's call.

The faint-hearted, who fear, whose reaction is flight,
Have no comprehension of those who will fight.
To hide their own trepidation they attempt to demean
The rough men, who defend them, as barbaric, obscene.
Yet these rough men stand ready, hard weapons to hand,
To put placaters behind them, draw a line in the sand,
To preserve for the peaceniks what they won't defend,
So their own unearned freedom won't perish, won't end.

To appeasers, rough men are coarse government tools.
To rough men, appeasers are dumb delusional fools.

Russ Vaughn
2d Bn, 327th Parachute Infantry Regiment
101st Airborne Division
Vietnam 65-66

23 posted on 07/22/2006 10:02:56 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (It is not the oath that makes us believe the man, but the man the oath.- Aeschylus)
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To: PghBaldy

Belgium, Phillipines, Balkans, Argentina, Australia... EVERY continent there are Islamists plotting and/or attacking, except one. Seems like a World War to me. It's not just against the US.


24 posted on 07/22/2006 10:04:06 PM PDT by PghBaldy (I'm sick of the media leaks & lies. God Bless America.)
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To: DannyTN
"The Islamic world vs the U.S. and Israel, doesn't really rise to the level of a world war."

The Islamic world is against everyone who is not muslim and even some who are. They are at war in Europe, the Middle East, Africa, Indonesia, South America, the Philippines and many other locations. You may not call it a world war but it is a war that is taking place in all corners of the world.
25 posted on 07/22/2006 10:04:59 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: PghBaldy
>"EVERY continent there are Islamists plotting and/or attacking, except one."

I'm waiting for the 12th imam to crawl outta the well, and declare war on the penguinfidells! Then it will be every continent!

26 posted on 07/22/2006 10:28:25 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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To: JDPendry

The leftist terror appeasing pacificts will do anything to avoid calling this a war due to their insatiable hunger for power.


27 posted on 07/22/2006 10:34:03 PM PDT by skimask (People who care what you do don't matter.......People who matter don't care what you do.)
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To: JDPendry

What we are ultimately doing, that is we and Israel, is forcing the Muslim world to make a distinct choice about the future. Whereas, for decades we played the proportionality card with them, they assumed it would go on and on.

I think that they are seeing that we have partially removed a glove. However, we're not even close to having the gloves truly off. This is terrifying to some ME countries and huge swathes of their populace. Their bravado betrays the truth, especially in Iran. They are scared. The old tactics of attack-cry mercy-regroup-and attack again, are falling on deaf ears in the western world and many ME "leaders" are at a loss about what to do next.

At some point the people of the ME will see that peace can only be attained by ousting those who would instigate trouble with the west. This will only happen when their Imams decidely see the wind blowing against their teachings, and begin issuing Fatwas for peace. Terrorism will never end, of course, but it will diminish.

Then, 20 years from now, we can start all over again. I have little faith in their ability to learn.

As for Mr Kim Jong Il. Isn't it about time he was living in fear of S.Korea instead of the other way around? The pity is, the South uses the excuse that they regard the North as "family", just some lost brothers that they hope someday will find their way home. It's incredible and immense in its cowardess.

If parts of your national family were in bondage and forced to eat grass to survive. would you sit idly by and make deals with their oppressor? Family, my a**. The S. Koreans are suffering from cowardess against the tin-pot leader. They got thiers, and don't really care a whit about their so-called bretheren. The "One Korea" policy only works for S Korea. It's not One Korea, because the strong half that could change the fate of the starving half will not sacrifice a thing to do so.

Ah. My rant has ended. Thanks for reading.


28 posted on 07/22/2006 10:37:55 PM PDT by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: JDPendry

Good post, but our battle is NOT with "Islamic-Nazis." It is with Islam. The only reason the "radical" Islamists can do what they do is because of overwhelming moral, financial, and logistical support they get from other Muslims, the "mainstream" in the ME and also in the US, Britain and Australia. Support for OBL in the Muslim world is HIGHER than support for Hitler was in 1930's Germany...look at the polls.

The only difference is that the Muslim world doesn't have tanks yet so they use "radical" proxies to terrorize us. Make no mistake: the Muslims as a whole are at war with us. Muslims have ALWAYS taken over countries by terror, never by outright war, even during their era of early expansion.


29 posted on 07/22/2006 11:27:48 PM PDT by numapompilius
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To: rawcatslyentist

LOL.


30 posted on 07/23/2006 4:11:24 AM PDT by PghBaldy (I'm sick of the media leaks & lies. God Bless America.)
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To: PghBaldy

Germany, Spain, Czech Republic, Kenya, Tanzania, Morocco, Saudi Arabia... If one were to list every country in which Muslims have attacked or planned to attack in the last 10 years or so, it would probably be in the dozens. Then there's the agitation & riots, calls for sharia law, fundraising & support for terrorists in even more countries. In many western countries, 2nd generation Muslims are becoming more radical than their parents.

Jews are attacked in Europe by Muslims. Gang-rapes are an underreported form of Muslim outreach. Some of what I consider the threat will lead to a stronger ummah, even if it wasn't the intent (petty crime & violent attacks against Jews). No-go zones will be the result in many western countries, where Muslims have nations within nations, and infidel authorities travel at their peril.


31 posted on 07/23/2006 4:26:44 AM PDT by PghBaldy (I'm sick of the media leaks & lies. God Bless America.)
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To: JDPendry

Its too bad that following the events of 9-11 the American people have been lulled into complacency by the liberals and MSM. Imagine it being five years after the attack at Pearl Harbor and Hitler and the Japanese militarists are still in power,though the US had managed to overthrow Mussolini in a war that divided the country with the NYT editorializing to bring our troops home and a US Senator and WW-I Marine urging to pull back US forces in the Pacific to San Fransisco.


32 posted on 07/23/2006 6:21:57 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Greenpees
>"At some point the people of the ME will see that peace can only be attained by ousting those who would instigate trouble with the west."

That would be with the original muuuhhhamhead (Pigs be inseminating him)! As long as they bang their heads and sniff koranuses there will be war!

33 posted on 07/23/2006 8:00:34 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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