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House Conservatives Circulate Letter on Minimum Wage
FreedomWorks ^

Posted on 07/28/2006 7:10:44 AM PDT by Solow591

Despite the clear economic case against a higher federal minimum wage, "moderates" in Congress are continuing the push the issue. Fortunately, House conservatives are not going along with this misguided effort, and members of the Republican Study Committee circulated this letter on Capitol Hill yesterday.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; herekittykitty; minimumwage; noob; rsc; titlejack; troll
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To: Hendrix

Thank you.


121 posted on 07/28/2006 9:58:01 AM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: Petronski
Havoc isn't what you'd call a big thinker.

You can supersize that slurpee for another 35 cents.

122 posted on 07/28/2006 9:59:34 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Hydroshock
It would have the effect of pushing wages up.
And what, do you believe, would be the effect on productivity? Be careful...
123 posted on 07/28/2006 10:00:51 AM PDT by BMiles2112
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To: Hydroshock
Keep in mind that I am not an economic/pro business conservative, in this area I am a moderate. I am a social conservative.

In my opinion, people can legitimately hold differing views on social issues; I am relatively conservative, but I have no way of proving that I am right, and others are free to disagree.

On economic issues, though, the liberal position simply ignores economic reality, and is based in ignorance. Very rarely can a reasonable argument be given for a liberal economic position; those advocating such positions rely almost universally on emotion and "tear-jerking" stories.

Please prove me wrong and give a rational argument for your position on the minimum wage.

124 posted on 07/28/2006 10:07:05 AM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: Hydroshock

"Makes me a realist. Do you think really for one minute that congress can keep not raising the minimum wage, and that when they do it will be a big one. This is slow and gradual, read not much impact. And keep in mind this is a tight election years."

Here's a question for you.

In a FREE Country, which we profess to be.

What earthly business is it of Congress, or any State for that matter, what the hell the minimum wage is that an Employer of a Private Business, pays to an Employee that HE or SHE hires hmm?

Answer?

NONE!

Congress has every right to raise the minimum wage of a Government Employee.

It has ZERO right to raise any wage in the private sector.

But then the people in this country have listened to the lies of this government for so long that it now believes IT to be the Sovereign Power in this country and not the People as the 10th Amendment to the Constitution states.


125 posted on 07/28/2006 10:09:55 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: Hydroshock
It would have the effect of pushing wages up.

It would also have the effect of pushing prices up.

126 posted on 07/28/2006 10:11:45 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Petronski

Prices are have have been going up.


127 posted on 07/28/2006 10:21:23 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Petronski; Toddsterpatriot

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1673847/posts


128 posted on 07/28/2006 10:22:44 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Hydroshock
Prices are have have been going up.

And you want to compound the problem.

129 posted on 07/28/2006 10:22:58 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Petronski

See the link on post 128.


130 posted on 07/28/2006 10:24:46 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Hydroshock

Saw it.


131 posted on 07/28/2006 10:28:04 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Hydroshock

How many people would get a payraise as a result of an increase in the minimum wage?

How many of those people are only making minimum wage?

Please reveal your thought process so that we may all be as 'enlightened' as you.


132 posted on 07/28/2006 10:29:26 AM PDT by Badray (CFR my ass. There's not too much money in politics. There's too much money in government hands.)
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To: Badray

It would have the effect of driving wages up, think trickle down in reverse. Besides it is most likely a done deal. The senate republicans have just announced that they are tieing wage increases to tax cuts and the dems are tieing them to congressional pay raises.

If only we could sneak in ANWAR drilling into this.


133 posted on 07/28/2006 10:32:54 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Hydroshock

Foolish in the extreme to put spending on auto pilot. I want to see a politician's name attached to EVER spending increase.


134 posted on 07/28/2006 10:36:41 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Hydroshock

And now you advocate political cowardice and expediency?

Do basic economic principles get repealed during election years?

You want to see low wage employment skyrocket? Eliminate the minimum wage altogether. Entry level workers will actually learn how to work and develop critical skills and over time earn what they are worth.

Is sweeping the floor worth $7.25 an hour (times 35 or 40 hours a week)? Maybe instead, the boss will decide that he can do it himself and not hire or keep that person, or pay another worker a small bonus for doing the job.


135 posted on 07/28/2006 10:37:33 AM PDT by Badray (CFR my ass. There's not too much money in politics. There's too much money in government hands.)
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To: Hydroshock

"And I have always thought it best to put forth good policies that benefit the majority of Americans as a primary goal of both parties."

I think I get it now.

From each according to his means to each according to his needs.

Is that close?

'The greater good' is the reasoning that gave us the Kelo decision. Protecting our liberty and rights is the only proper role of government. Setting wage rates does not fall within the government's legitimate functions.


136 posted on 07/28/2006 10:44:35 AM PDT by Badray (CFR my ass. There's not too much money in politics. There's too much money in government hands.)
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To: Hydroshock
The fact that we have a minimum wage at all proves we're already on the road to socialism. Government setting controls on how private businesses are run is just plain socialism any way you slice it.

What determines the fair wage? A fair wage is whatever someone will work for... if there are people who will work for $4 a hour, what possible economic justification is there for paying them $5.15 a hour?

I don't know what profession you're in, but what if you job is only worth $4 a hour. If I'm forced to pay $5.15, that means I'm going hire fewer folks, have fewer benefits and will fight tooth and nail to never give raises so as to offset the "premium" I'm forced to pay. The freemarket will win out. If the job is worth more, I'll be forced to pay more because there won't be anyone for me to hire.

Economics drive business, not government laws that ignore economics.
137 posted on 07/28/2006 10:46:11 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: mwl1

Ahh, the old election year pandering and surrender of principle ritual.

Good advice. Not.


138 posted on 07/28/2006 10:49:30 AM PDT by Badray (CFR my ass. There's not too much money in politics. There's too much money in government hands.)
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To: durasell

If, in winning the election, we become what we oppose, what do we 'win'?

Bad economic policy is bad economic policy. It doesn't become good if it helps to win an election. When republicans advocate cheaper versions of bad policy, all they are doing is giving credence to the bad policy.


139 posted on 07/28/2006 10:56:47 AM PDT by Badray (CFR my ass. There's not too much money in politics. There's too much money in government hands.)
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To: BMiles2112
And what, do you believe, would be the effect on productivity?

He doesn't understand productivity. Otherwise he wouldn't make such stupid recommendations.

140 posted on 07/28/2006 10:58:59 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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