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U.S. Puts Onus on Employers of Immigrants
NY Times' Terrorist Tip Sheet ^ | July 31, 2006 | JULIA PRESTON

Posted on 07/30/2006 9:16:21 PM PDT by neverdem

CINCINNATI, July 30 — Immigration agents had prepared a nasty surprise for the Garcia Labor Company, a temporary worker contractor, when they moved against it on charges of hiring illegal immigrants. They brought a 40-count federal indictment, part of a new nationwide strategy by immigration officials to clamp down on employers of illegal immigrant laborers.

Maximino Garcia, the president of the company, which provides low-wage laborers to businesses from Pennsylvania to Texas, stood before a federal judge here on Tuesday to answer conspiracy charges of aiding illegal immigrants and money laundering. If convicted, Mr. Garcia, who pleaded not guilty, could serve 20 years in jail and forfeit his headquarters building and $12 million.

The criminal charges against Mr. Garcia and his company were brought by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, part of the Department of Homeland Security. The campaign has included at least five other federal indictments of business executives in Ohio and Kentucky and has sent payroll managers rushing to re-examine their workers’ papers and rethink plans for their work force.

It also created a new environment of fear in Ohio’s immigrant communities.

“It’s a very uneasy feeling,” said Sister Teresa Ann Wolf, a Roman Catholic nun who works with immigrant workers in Canton, Ohio. “People are afraid to leave the house to go to the store. They are afraid to come to church.”

Until recently, the worst that Mr. Garcia, 43, might have expected from the immigration authorities was a civil fine and the deportation of some illegal workers. In April, with President Bush under fire from both Democrats and Republicans who accused him of being lax on employers of illegal immigrants, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff announced the new campaign. It focuses on those suspected of violations with felony charges that could lead to huge financial...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Kentucky; US: Michigan; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; employers; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrants; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigrants; immigration
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1 posted on 07/30/2006 9:16:23 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
new environment of fear

Hmm. Where I have heard that before?

2 posted on 07/30/2006 9:20:01 PM PDT by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: neverdem

I would also go after the housing sector.

Illegals should not be able to purchase or rent a place to live.

If employers and landlords/mortgage companies stopped providing jobs and places to live the market for illegals would dry up quick.


3 posted on 07/30/2006 9:23:03 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: neverdem

I personally have strenous objections to the government putting the burden on employers, wanting them to become INS agents. It's a cop out by the Federal government. It's their job to enforce immigration laws, starting at the border.


4 posted on 07/30/2006 9:24:17 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: ozoneliar

Imagine fearing that you'll get caught breaking the law...

Sometimes when I speed down the road I drive in fear too...

And rightly so...


5 posted on 07/30/2006 9:24:42 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB

" employers and landlords/mortgage companies " are NOT Federal agents and it's NOT their job to enforce immigration laws.

Why don't we all just start stopping others on the street and demanding their papers? (/sarcasm)


6 posted on 07/30/2006 9:25:55 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: neverdem

YESSSS!!!


7 posted on 07/30/2006 9:25:58 PM PDT by redhead (Alaska: Step out of the bus and into the food chain...)
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To: neverdem
The Social Security Administration has not been informing employers when a number is probably given to them by an illegal.

why?

because they don't want the poor illegal to lose their job


so much for a nation of laws.
8 posted on 07/30/2006 9:26:22 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: FairOpinion

Well both sides of the aisle agree on this one now...and I do agree that if the employer was duped, or whatever, that is one thing....but if they knowingly hired illegals, well they should be punished.....If employers don't hire, then there won't be incentive to come.....that is actually MORE important then the border.....as many experts have said


9 posted on 07/30/2006 9:27:04 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: neverdem

Let's go after the employers, so then all the illegals can go on welfare instead, nobody checks their status when they are applying for that.

What's wrong with this picture?


10 posted on 07/30/2006 9:28:15 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
Why don't we all just start stopping others on the street and demanding their papers? (/sarcasm)

"WE ALL" shouldn't have to. It's our government's JOB to enforce our laws. Yeesh.

APf

11 posted on 07/30/2006 9:29:27 PM PDT by APFel (Individualism. The alpha and the omega.)
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To: NorCalRepub

I read somewhere that the largest employers of illegals are the homeowners.

Do you think you could ever find a gardner or a nanny/housekeeper, someone to clean up your backyard, work on your roof, etc., if you insisted to see the citizenship papers of everyone who does this kind of work for you?

As I said, the border should be secured, so they can't get in and they shouldn't get public assistance. Going agter the emplyers is just for show that they are doing something, it hurts businesses, but does nothing to solve the problem.


12 posted on 07/30/2006 9:31:09 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: neverdem

Law enforcement. Prosecuting felonies. No new legislation.


13 posted on 07/30/2006 9:31:28 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: APFel

"It's our government's JOB to enforce our laws. "


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My point exactly. It's the job of the government, not the job of private citizens, or employers, or landlords, etc.


14 posted on 07/30/2006 9:32:08 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

In the spirit of what I wrote, I don't think that is what you meant "exactly".

APf


15 posted on 07/30/2006 9:34:15 PM PDT by APFel (Individualism. The alpha and the omega.)
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To: FairOpinion
I'm an employer and I say do it. We've been doing it for many years.

The government should make it easy to accurately check if the person is legal or illegal. That's the key. With the Internet that should be easy. An employer should be able to check a person's legal status along with an online picture ID. The online picture ID would greatly improve catching people using other peoples social security numbers. When someone that is illegal shows up and/or using a bogus social security number the employer should be able to report it at the same Web site so the person can be apprehended instead of simply allowed to go on their way as it is now.

Get rid of jobs for illegals and places for them to live (rentals and houses) and it will put a big dent in the problem. Illegals should not be able to buy property or rent housing either.
16 posted on 07/30/2006 9:36:31 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: APFel

I was being sarcastic -- my point was that the government should enforce the laws, instead of expecting private business or citizens to do it for them.

The Federal government should work on securing the borders -- if illegals can't come in, you don't have to worry about them being hired. Also, the worst problem are not those who are working, but those who are getting welfare, so why don't they go after those? Last I heard, at the welfare office its illegal to inquire about someone's citizenship status.


17 posted on 07/30/2006 9:37:11 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
I personally have strenuous objections to the government putting the burden on employers, wanting them to become INS agents. It's a cop out by the Federal government. It's their job to enforce immigration laws, starting at the border.

They are the very ones that are making a monetary profit using illegal aliens and they have been sliding all this time, and, for some reason, you want them to be blameless?

Please fill me in on where my thinking is wrong on this.

18 posted on 07/30/2006 9:38:05 PM PDT by capt. norm (Bumper Sticker: Honk if you've never seen an Uzi shoot from a car window.)
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To: FairOpinion

I want to know if I'm hiring an illegal or not.

I don't want to be part of the problem.


19 posted on 07/30/2006 9:39:22 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: neverdem

Gee- I see how serious the government is about ending the employement of illegals.... I could guide agents to several employers who have hundreds of illegals working for them, or small operators with only a handful of illegals working for them... but I haven't received any calls yet - have any of you?


20 posted on 07/30/2006 9:40:40 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of a Cancer on Society)
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