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Banner of Condi and Cana unfurled HOURS after bombing...hmmm
Yahoo News Photo ^ | July 30, 2006 | Yahoo News Photo

Posted on 07/31/2006 7:24:03 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds

In Arabic it says: ""The massacre of children in Qana 2, is the gift of Rice. The clever bombs..Stupid,"

Banner appeard in downtown Beirut. Fifty-two people were killed, many of them sleeping children, when Israeli warplanes blitzed the Lebanese village of Qana, triggering global outrage and warnings of retribution for a "war crime" as a ceasefire appeared more remote than ever.(AFP/Ramzi Haidar)

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To: HawaiianGecko
It's good to know that all that foreign aid is being put to good use.

How many Israeli and American flags on flammable stock can that printer crank out?

-PJ

21 posted on 07/31/2006 7:39:09 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

"Baby Milk Factory"


22 posted on 07/31/2006 7:40:50 PM PDT by weegee (Call Ted Kennedy's office and tell them you would've called 10 hours ago but couldn't get to a phone)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

These same banners were used at the UN rallies ... the destruction of the UN offices just after Qana.


23 posted on 07/31/2006 7:41:37 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
Yes but isn't this banner 30', not 20' like the 4500 Printer series does?

OK, It will make a 22' wide by 50' long poster in one hour and six minutes.  It prints at 1000 SqFt/Hour.  A picture at this size only needs to be about 150dpi to look like a glossy print.


24 posted on 07/31/2006 7:42:42 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: HawaiianGecko

Gecko, you may be right but there are plenty of commercial printers that on FR that are saying something different.

I don't know the answer, I just find the timing more than interesting.


25 posted on 07/31/2006 7:44:33 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
The banner could have been prepared anytime since she first announced her trip about 10 days ago.

The text could have been added later by hand on fairly short notice.

So the poster could have taken a couple of days to put together, then they added the words at a later time by hand in just a couple of hours.

Back to Baker Street, Sherlock.
26 posted on 07/31/2006 7:45:29 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: HawaiianGecko
It prints at 1000 SqFt/Hour.

It's not just the printing time.

It's also the preparation time -- developing the graphic concept, pulling together the elements, composing the image and generating the printing materials.

Then, waiting for the damn thing to dry...

There is simply no way this poster was created from scratch after the affair occurred and still appeared on the streets of Beirut the same day.

27 posted on 07/31/2006 7:52:07 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
This is old ground, I am afraid. The reality is, this thing was sitting there, ready to unfurl, the night before. Qana was a "10 year anniversary show" to commemorate the Qana raid of 1996, in which 104 women, children, etc. were killed by an Israeli air strike.

The only remaining question is whether the bodies displayed were scrounged from a Tyre morgue, or were freshly killed by the Hezbastards just for this performance. The star of the show "Mr Green Helmet" seems to be reprising his role of 1996, when he similarly carried dead children up and down for the cameras.

Michael Medved should review this atrocity, and compare it with Michael Moore's documentaries, which are no more truthful or sincere.

28 posted on 07/31/2006 7:54:50 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

I was going to reply but the numerous post all say the same thing. Any commerical printer/sign maker can produce this "banner" in an hour.

I had to have a real "banner" to place across a street.
Called the local sign guy. He said: "Give me 90 minutes."


29 posted on 07/31/2006 7:58:15 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: okie01
There is simply no way this poster was created from scratch after the affair occurred and still appeared on the streets of Beirut the same day.

As I have said many times on FR today, unfortunately on coco puff conservative deaf ears, there is a way the poster could have been done so quickly.

Dr Rice has been announced to be in the region for about 10 days. That's plenty of time to create the large banner.

The text could have been added onto the poster at a later time, and prepared in just a couple of hours.

So you have a window of about a week to 10 days to create the banner, and a few hours to add the text.

So much for the 'there is no way' crowd that insists on thinking in 1 dimension. Sheesh.

30 posted on 07/31/2006 7:58:46 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: HawaiianGecko

I think that only handles paper... and from the looks of the banner, it's not paper... ?


31 posted on 07/31/2006 8:00:29 PM PDT by oolatec
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To: magellan
I've used some large HP printers to print maps. It took a couple of hours to print a 3' x 6' printout. About half of that time was the computer spooling the job.

What are you printing raster graphics or vector graphics? I would imagine vector in the map world simply for easy of scaling up with no loss of quality. Lots of things come into play. But if you put an IBM System i5 model 595 with 2 terabytes of memory on it, it'll spool this job in about 20 seconds.

Of course I'm not sure that IBM sells to Hezbollah. :-)


32 posted on 07/31/2006 8:05:51 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

Also see evidence of staged photos with the same man presenting the victims to camera multiple times, and also believe it or not, pictured in 1996 in Cana, doing exactly the same thing.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1675486/posts


33 posted on 07/31/2006 8:18:40 PM PDT by plenipotentiary
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To: plenipotentiary

the original photographs of the victims of this 'massacre' that i saw, i felt something wasn't right

many of them were covered in dust and yet i thought makeup etc was clearly visible on some of the 'corpses'

anyone else think something looks wrong with the so-called victims of this so-called israeli massacre, or is my tinfoil wrapped too tight ?


34 posted on 07/31/2006 8:22:47 PM PDT by malamute
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To: oolatec
I think that only handles paper... and from the looks of the banner, it's not paper... ?

You can run plastic through even the cheapest DeskJet printer. I run transparencies all the time myself and 28-30 weight card stock paper.

Bowater's 50 weight, 85 brightness, 92% opacity is much nicer than the poster with Sec. Rice on it.  It's their Hi-Bright, non coated, mechanical paper and is widely used in printing. Odds are that the banner is actually an acetate type of plastic, but either way these printers don't know whether they are printing on plastic, bond paper or slick paper. They are spraying ink on a surface, much like a gang-banger spraying paint on brick, cinderblock, cement, wood, windows etc.


35 posted on 07/31/2006 8:24:52 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds
This fits nicely with my "Danish Flag" theory that the Muslims orchestrate these displays solely for the benefit of the cameras.

Did the terrorists really kill those kids in Qana for a publicity stunt that won them a 2 day cease fire? Look at those pictures closely. I would put nothing past those scum.
36 posted on 07/31/2006 8:26:07 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

The banner looks a real professional job. The artwork, the text, the colour quality, the material, the size, all point to this taking more than a couple of hours.

When you've put this much ink on this kind of material how long does it take to dry?


37 posted on 07/31/2006 9:08:44 PM PDT by plenipotentiary
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To: plenipotentiary

PS It doesn't look like strips have been sewn together, it looks from the way it hangs that it was made all in one piece.

Plus this is four colour printing:

"Has your printer ever called you to say your job will be a day late because it is taking longer than expected for the ink to dry? What should you know about ink drying time to help you plan your printing schedule?

First of all, understand that your printer is making a reasonable request. It is prudent to let ink dry before folding a job to avoid streaking or "offsetting," in which wet ink smears or transfers from one sheet to an adjacent sheet. Some inks dry faster than others, as do some substrates such as synthetic and plastic papers.

Heavy ink coverage (solids and bleeds) on uncoated paper or matte stock take longer to dry, particularly if the ink mixture includes any reflex blue. A print job also dries more slowly on a humid day."

http://www.printindustry.com/newsletter_37.htm



38 posted on 07/31/2006 9:20:56 PM PDT by plenipotentiary
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To: swheats
Are you saying Kofi Anus is stupid? Wow, I would have never thought that.
39 posted on 07/31/2006 11:20:39 PM PDT by Tannerone
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To: HitmanLV
So much for the 'there is no way' crowd that insists on thinking in 1 dimension. Sheesh

The process you describe is indeed possible.

However, if you are correct, consider the implications.

Which are that, once Rice's trip was announced, the Hezbos began preparing for an atrocity -- location to be determined.

Personally, I find this scenario no less despicable than any other.

40 posted on 08/01/2006 10:30:35 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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