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Toyota's Lexus Tops Dependability Study
Yahoo! Finance:Associated Press ^ | 8/9/2006 | Sarah Karush

Posted on 08/09/2006 11:23:00 AM PDT by eraser2005

Toyota's Lexus Tops Dependability Study; Ford Land Rover Ranks Last

DETROIT (AP) -- Japan's Toyota Motor Corp. won top honors in eight categories of a closely watched vehicle dependability study, more than any other company, while mainstream brands closed in on luxury nameplates, J.D. Power and Associates said Wednesday.

Lexus, Toyota's luxury brand, was the top-ranked nameplate for the 12th consecutive year. It was followed by Ford Motor Co.'s Mercury and General Motors Corp.'s Buick and Cadillac.

Last-place Land Rover, which is owned by Ford, lagged far behind the second-to-last brand, Saab, which is owned by GM. Land Rover owners reported 438 problems per 100 vehicles, while Saab owners reported 326.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: autos; autoshop; cars; chrysler; ford; gm; honda; nissan; toyota
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I love the AP writer's emphasis on "Ford Land Rover" in the headline... it gives the impression that all Ford Motor Company products must be bad.

Of course, Mercury (which last year finished ahead of Honda and Acura and 1 point behind Toyota) flew past Toyota into second place.

ALL of Ford's brands which they have owned for a considerable period of time are above the industry average. Only Land Rover and Volvo are below...

1 posted on 08/09/2006 11:23:02 AM PDT by eraser2005
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To: eraser2005

I remember when Saabs were like little Swedish tanks. You couldn't kill em...


2 posted on 08/09/2006 11:28:18 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: eraser2005
I put nearly 100,000 miles on my last Ford truck. Could've welded the hood shut if not for oil requirements. I totaled it (and three trees) so I no longer own it ;). Pushing 40,000 perfect miles on this one. Wasn't the hummer rated most unreliable from a different source?
3 posted on 08/09/2006 11:30:55 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Volvos used to be the same way.


4 posted on 08/09/2006 11:31:16 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: eraser2005

only problem with this report is whether or not the problems reported by consumers were really problems with the car (ie repair bulletins were issues by the manufacturer) or consumer complaints of things they didn't like about the car but only found out after buying it (ie not really problems with the car but issues with the car driver not liking a how the car functions etc). I am not sure JD POWERS accounts for this.


5 posted on 08/09/2006 11:35:01 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: jospehm20

I owned a 122 sedan. It had > 350,000 miles on the original 4 banger motor.


6 posted on 08/09/2006 11:37:13 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: eraser2005

I will never own a Ford again, no matter what. They refuse to honor their warranty.


7 posted on 08/09/2006 11:39:45 AM PDT by Protagoras ("Minimum-wage laws are one of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of racists." - Walter Williams)
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To: eraser2005

I always wonder why Lexus owners act to smug. They're Toyotas, after all, you snobs!


8 posted on 08/09/2006 11:42:22 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

JD Power's initial quality study convolutes the data about design aspects consumers don't like... the dependability study is a different beast entirely....


9 posted on 08/09/2006 11:47:09 AM PDT by eraser2005
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To: Protagoras

Funny, I've never heard of anyone having the least bit of trouble. In fact, I've heard the exact opposite - coverage by Ford of repairs outside of warranty...


10 posted on 08/09/2006 11:47:55 AM PDT by eraser2005
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To: ozzymandus

I once saw a V6 Toyota Camry XLE driving down the road with the following license plate:

BABYLEX

I thought it was a brilliant insight. :)


11 posted on 08/09/2006 11:48:48 AM PDT by eraser2005
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To: eraser2005

I didn't rely on anyone else's testimony. Personal experience.


12 posted on 08/09/2006 11:51:35 AM PDT by Protagoras ("Minimum-wage laws are one of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of racists." - Walter Williams)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Circa 1960, weren't Saabs 2 cycle?
Seem to remember having to add oil to the fuel.


13 posted on 08/09/2006 11:52:52 AM PDT by Vinnie
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I always wonder why Lexus owners act to smug. They're Toyotas, after all, you snobs!

And your point??

14 posted on 08/09/2006 11:54:28 AM PDT by Vinnie
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"Circa 1960, weren't Saabs 2 cycle?"

Yes, for a long time they were 2-cycle.


15 posted on 08/09/2006 11:57:11 AM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: eraser2005
I love the AP writer's emphasis on "Ford Land Rover" in the headline... it gives the impression that all Ford Motor Company products must be bad.

Only if you're inclined to think in gross generalities.

Some people who couldn't care less about Land Rover making crap cars might actually care if they find out it's owned by Ford.

16 posted on 08/09/2006 11:58:18 AM PDT by newgeezer ("Hezbollah" is wrong. Since they are the 'party of Allah', the accurate translation is "Hezb'Allah")
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To: kinoxi

I'll tell you about a good truck. I bought a Dakota (88 model) in December of 87. In 98, with 105,000 miles on it, I sold it to a friend. I only had to replace the water pump during that time. My friend is still driving it, he's replaced the fuel pump only. The paint is shot, the upholstery is torn, the dash is cracked, and the truck generally looks like a piece of crap. But it burns no oil, runs great, and has almost 200,000 miles on it.

I kick myself every time I see it. Wife totalled my 98 Chevy and my 2000 Chevy has a fuel guage sender that doesn't work, and it will cost $500 to fix it (the part alone ios $200!).

I think I'll buy a Toyota Tundra next time. Or maybe a Ram.


17 posted on 08/09/2006 12:02:11 PM PDT by fredhead (Women want me....Fish fear me....I can dream can't I?)
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To: fredhead

You buy a Ram you better have lots of money. I hear the gas mileage is terrible.


18 posted on 08/09/2006 12:05:33 PM PDT by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: ozzymandus
I drove a used Lexus E300 earlier this summer and was very impressed with the ride: smooth shifting, excellent handling, plenty of power. I think the new ones look awful, though.

Alas, not sure if I could fork out the bucks for one, as transportation is a divestment of funds. A necessary divestment, but at $40-50K I start thinking about property, not a depreciating car. Plus, my Indian name is "Can only Afford a '72 Nova!"

19 posted on 08/09/2006 12:06:33 PM PDT by mallardx
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I'll probably stay with what I have. I haven't had any other problems with the Silverado, and I get 15 MPG city and 21 highway (real time mileage, not EPA miles) with the Vortec V6. As for the fuel gauge, I just fill up every 150 - 200 miles.

The only drawback is pulling my 23 foot boat with the V6.


20 posted on 08/09/2006 12:11:33 PM PDT by fredhead (Women want me....Fish fear me....I can dream can't I?)
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