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"Three of the alleged ringleaders of the foiled airplane bomb plot have been identified by Western intelligence agencies involved in unraveling the plot. Two of them are believed to have recently traveled to Pakistan and were later in receipt of money wired to them from Pakistan, reportedly to purchase tickets for the suicide bombers. Sources identify the three, who are now in custody, as: --Rashid Rauf --Mohammed al-Ghandra --Ahmed al Khan." report on August 10, 2006 from an ABC News Exclusive: Three Alleged Ringleaders ID'd ABC News, by Brian Ross.

Today they say the guy's name is Tayib Rauf,DoB:26/04/1984, Birmingham, England.

Mr Rasid Rauf owns a restaurant in Birmingham

Internet Search on Mr Rashid Rauf: (Mr Raside Rauf, Style: Restaurant. Opening Hours: 6pm-late (7days a week) Speciality: Desi Style Food ... www.balti-birmingham.co.uk/restaurant.asp?resid=64)

Is ABC onto something here Mr. Rasid Rauf # 25, or is this just bad journalism?

1 posted on 08/11/2006 9:30:05 AM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
I'm vomiting now.

The headline attempts, after 911, after subway bombings, after shoe bombings, after death and destruction, to attach the words "Muslim" and "peace" together? What kind of idiots do they think we are?

2 posted on 08/11/2006 9:31:49 AM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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He loves fish and chips and Liverpool football club and his favourite TV programme is Only Fools and Horses. He even wanted to join the police as a forensics expert.

Yeah, and some of the 9/11 hijackers went to strip clubs.

4 posted on 08/11/2006 9:33:05 AM PDT by socal_parrot (Trying to reason with wildfire season.)
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“He loves fish and chips and Liverpool football club and his favourite TV programme is Only Fools and Horses."

That's all right then eh?

These guys ain't terrorists they are cheeky chippy chappies!
5 posted on 08/11/2006 9:33:13 AM PDT by vimto (Blighty Awaken!)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Shattered the peace of Muslim neighborhoods?? Good Muslim neighborhoods harboring terrorists that want to kill Westerners and had built bombs, and set the plans to do so.

What would the exploding of a dozen or so airliners, and the people on them been?? A rather stark shattering of the peace I would say. The world had better wake up real fast to the oxymoron of GOOD MUSLIMS.


6 posted on 08/11/2006 9:34:31 AM PDT by EagleUSA (T)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

"Peace" and "Muslim neighborhoods" is a bit of an onxymoron, no?


8 posted on 08/11/2006 9:35:20 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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"About six months ago he said he was converting to Islam. He grew a beard and shaved his head," a neighbour said.

This should be looked at the same way some people "join a cult".

10 posted on 08/11/2006 9:36:28 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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Mr Ulhaq said: “All I know is they are peaceful, religious people. They were teaching Koran and all that to the young kids. I’m shocked, I’m sure they’ve got the wrong people.”

It's the Jooos!
11 posted on 08/11/2006 9:37:13 AM PDT by maggief
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

The religion of Lies.


12 posted on 08/11/2006 9:37:15 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Moderate Bumper Sticker: Bush Lied, Terrorists Died!)
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13 raids shattered the peace of Muslim neighbourhoods

"Peace" meaning the silence is usually only disturbed by the occassional bang of a suicide vest going off unexpectedly, and shouts of "Death to the West!"

13 posted on 08/11/2006 9:37:38 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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My solution to terrorists - Peace through superior firing squads.


14 posted on 08/11/2006 9:38:00 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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He loves fish and chips and Liverpool football club and his favourite TV programme is Only Fools and Horses. He even wanted to join the police as a forensics expert.

If this were a description of a non-Muslim who wanted to fight in the WOT, he would be labelled a "cowboy".

15 posted on 08/11/2006 9:38:40 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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"He is a great believer in the importance of integration between our community and the Western world."

Yeah, makes it easier to get close to infidels to kill them, as it turns out.

17 posted on 08/11/2006 9:40:57 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by fleeing the scene of an accident)
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I guess "shattering the peace" of their neighborhoods is way worse than the peace-shattering of all those lives was going to be. What a barfy headline.


19 posted on 08/11/2006 9:41:20 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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I think it is the terror plotting by terrorists that acutally SHATTERS the "Peace" in your neighborhood- AND YOUR RELIGION!

good grief.....the headline is a political statement all of its own....


20 posted on 08/11/2006 9:41:23 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT)
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13 raids shattered the peace of Muslim neighbourhoods

Those damned London police! Bothering those nice peaceful Muslim neighborhoods, for NO OTHER REASON then the peaceful Muslims within sought to commit yet another mass murder!

I'm spittin' mad! Those London police should be ARRESTED immediately!

21 posted on 08/11/2006 9:42:05 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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Yeah, and 37% of all British Muslims thinks it's acceptable to suicide bomb Jews. Those neighborhoods would be even more "peaceful" if they deported them all.


22 posted on 08/11/2006 9:42:24 AM PDT by mjwise
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At the bottom of this Daily Mail article, they note that Mr. Rasid Rauf lived at that address "two four years ago"(yes, it says two four years ago). Someone over at CNN and ABC must have used an old reverse telephone book. AND the guys arrested at that residence address names are MAROOF RAUF, 19, and ABDUL RAUF, 22," !!!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=400012&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

Drama at dawn as the terror squads descend on suburbia
By MICHAEL SEAMARK, TOM KELLY and NEIL SEARS

11th August 2006


Following a series of dramatic arrests across the country, nine nearby homes were evacuated 'as a precautionary measure' as police removed large boxes from the £170,000 house and garden.

Neighbours said the Sarwar family had lived at the property in rundown Walton Drive for at least 20 years and police had arrested brothers Amjad and Asad Sarwar. Friends told how the men, British born of Pakistani origin and in their late twenties, became "very religious" in recent years.

One man said they had been popular pupils at nearby Sir William Ramsey School until they reached their late teens.

"But they suddenly changed a few years ago," he said. "They became very religious, began to grow long beards and stopped socialising."

Both are understood to have married, and Amjad, 28, is believed to have a baby daughter.

Builder Phil Redfern, who was at school with the brothers, said they began to shun mainstream mosques and instead frequented a smaller mosque behind a nearby Islamic bookshop.

Three other properties in the Buckinghamshire town were raided and Met Police search teams scoured an area of woodland called King's Wood half a mile away.

In Hepplewhite Close residents said Don Stewart-Whyte, 19, who had converted to Islam and grown a beard, was arrested.

One described him as a 'mummy's boy' who converted to Islam six months ago and married an Arab girl in recent weeks.

One neighbour said he had changed his name to Abdul Wahid. "The majority of his friends are Muslims and that's how he got interested in the religion. Some say he was rebellious when he was a teenager but he wasn't that bad."

In Micklefield Road police stood guard outside a white-painted semi-detached house. Detectives carried out painstaking searches of the property, and a separate building in the back garden described as a "prayer room".

Police broke down the door of a bungalow on the opposite side of the same street to carry out further searches.

The house is believed to be home to a family originally from Pakistan, who bought it in 1987.

Since then neighbours have seen a stream of single men and women coming and going from the property.

Neighbourhood Watch coordinator Peter Whitelock, 77, said: "There were people coming and going from the house at all times of the night. There were all sorts people."

Neighbours said police took away Wassem Kayani from his home in Plomer Green Avenue, Downley, High Wycombe.

One said when she first saw Mr Kayani several years ago "he was in full-length white robe, had a full beard, very short cut hair and a little white hat.

"He did start to get a bit Westernised but he kept himself to himself."

Police armed with specialist equipment, including metal detectors, took over and occupied the three-bedroomed semi-detached house.

At least seven properties were raided in the Walthamstow area of East London.

A close family friend revealed that Asim Tariq, a security guard at Heathrow Airport, had been arrested in a dawn raid in a quiet residential street.

The 23-year-old had recently married and had a three-week-old baby called Axa and was described by neighbours as the "least religious" of the closely knit Muslim family. Mr Tariq was seen by neighbours being taken away in handcuffs from the family home just after 5am. He lives with his wife in the two-storey terrace home in Ravenswood Road.

The young Muslim lives with his father Hussain Tariq who owned a cleaning business until he retired. It is understood Asim's mother Khalida Tariq and his sister Kashif, 27, also lives at the family home.

Neighbours said police raided the Folkestone Road home of British-born Oliver Savant, 25, who changed his name to Ibrahim after becoming a devout Muslim some eight years ago.

'He supports Liverpool and his favourite food is burger and chips'


Retired fireman Paul Kleinman, 66, said: "I've known him since the day he was born. He was a very polite young man. Oliver started putting on Muslim robes and growing his beard long a few years back."

Another man arrested in Walthamstow was Waheed Zaman, a relative said.

The biomedical science student is head of the Islamic Society at London Metropolitan University.

His sister Nagina Zaman said: "My brother is a popular person and is not a terrorist. He is very open about his faith and teaches integration.

"As the head of the university's Islamic Society he has a very good rapport with people like Yvonne Ridley and George Galloway.

"He gets involved with all their Muslim events, but he is just a normal lad.

"He supports Liverpool and his favourite food is burger and chips. He is a British-born boy."

She added most of the Walthamstow suspects were thought to know each other as they had been pupils at Edinburgh Road Primary School.

Another of those arrested in Waltahmstow is believed to be Samih Ahmed, 22. About 20 police officers rammed the front door to his first-floor flat in Forest Road and spent yesterday picking through the contents of the property.

The 20-year-old man, one of four children, is understood to have paid cash for the £138,000 flat less than a month ago.

A family friend said: "Samih has always been polite. He is very religious and is always going to the mosque at the end of the road near the family home."

Police were also standing guard outside two houses in Albert Road, Walthamstow.

Neighbours said the man arrested at 61 Albert Road was Usman Saddique, 24, who works in a pizza takeaway. He was a childhood friend of Ibrahim Savant.

At the second address a neighbour said: "There was an elderly couple that lived there with four daughters, one was a foster child. I can't see how they could be caught up in terrorism."

Forensic officers were still searching a property at Queen's Road, Walthamstow, opposite the Masjid-e-Uma mosque. It is believed a man was arrested at the property.

Local man Amer Gull, 26, a shop superviser, said he was a childhood friend of Usman Saddique, Ibrahim Savant and Waheed Zaman.

Mr Gull said: "I know these guys and they aren't terrorists. Like most of us they don't like what's happening to Muslims in other countries, but we don't like what Osama Bin Laden or Al Qaeda are doing."

One suspect was still wearing his pyjamas when he was led away in handcuffs after police stormed a property in Barking.

His family said the man, known only as Altaf, was a newly-married 27-year-old tyre businessman who had been visiting Britain for the first time to see his wife's family in Forest Gate for a month-long holiday.

Two properties searched in Birmingham appeared to be owned by the same family.

At 3am, police smashed the door down at a four-bedroom terrace house in St Margarets Road in Ward End. Neighbours said Maroof Rauf, 19, and Abdul Rauf, 22, were arrested.

Until two four years ago, Rashid Rauf - named in the U.S. last night as one suspect arrested - was listed as living at the address


25 posted on 08/11/2006 9:44:25 AM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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There is a way for Muslims to once again enjoy peaceful neighborhoods, you know. In fact, a couple of ways.

One, turn in the troublemakers you know of in your neighborhoods, and allow the authorities to take them away where they may no longer do harm to yourself or your neighbors.

Or another, find a different neighborhood, preferably several thousand miles away from England and all you despise. Iran has a varied climate, and many attributes a Muslim may well find to be to their liking. Syria or Saudia Arabia are also suitable cultural localities for Muslims.


26 posted on 08/11/2006 9:44:48 AM PDT by alloysteel (My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling, but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places.)
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"Their terraced home in St Margarets Road, Ward End, where about twenty girls come nightly to learn religion"

And so the contagion spreads.


28 posted on 08/11/2006 9:46:02 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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HOW DARE they. How dare they shatter the peace of a Muslim neighborhood. There should be protests, marches, riots even. The police should know better than to step foot into a Muslim territory, they need to pay for this.

JIHAD!!!!! lalalalalalalalalalalala!!!!

*cough* never mind

29 posted on 08/11/2006 9:47:06 AM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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