Posted on 08/12/2006 5:59:58 AM PDT by Man50D
About the Petition: It contains more than 55,000 pages … It is so complex that even those who wrote it don’t fully understand it. The “it” is the federal tax code, and more and more Americans are demanding that the time has come to abolish the IRS in favor of a “Fair Tax” system.
Unless they happen to have decided to become active politically or a hundred other reasons one might name. YOU are the one in denial here.
"...The socialistic and anti-social character of the income tax is inherent.
Imbedded in the philosophy of the law is the destructive principle, so that once it is in effect the economic and political consequences are inevitable. The principle of the income tax is the denial of private property.
There is nothing in the Sixteenth Amendment, there is nothing in the principle of the income tax, which puts a limit on the amount the State may demand, and hence the implication is clear that the individual's absolute right of private property is denied.
The theory of republican government, that its powers are derived from the will of the people, is no safeguard against this denial of private property.
Assuming that the Sixteenth Amendment at the time of its enactment did express the will of the people, every one of them, the substance and effect of income taxation was to destroy the will of any subsequent generation for modification or revocation.
It is unlike any other law. For the denial of the right of private property is in essence the denial of the right of the individual to himself. He is no longer a free person if he is not free to keep and enjoy the products of his labors..."
Excerpted from From Solomon’s Yoke to the Income Tax by Frank Chodorov
Exactly what is it about this that YOU cannot seem to grasp?
All you IRS SQL's heads up
Rob's gonna plant a big fat wet
K I S S
on your nevermind.
START SPREADING THE NEWS. THE IRS IS WONDERFUL. YES!
Its too late for that.. Since whatever the Supremes say is the law is now the law.. The Constitution is(has become) packing peanuts..
How does stating a fact somehow make one a member of a cult?
I've never told anyone they didn't have to pay the income tax and I seriously doubt that AG has done so. I'm not so sure about you however.
How does stating a fact somehow make one a member of a cult?
I've never told anyone they didn't have to pay the income tax and I seriously doubt that AG has done so. I'm not so sure about you however.
2. How does stating a fact somehow make one a member of a cult?
That wasn't a fact. It's tax protest cult crap.
The prebate is set only by family size, which may or may not correlate with poverty level or net worth or any other such factor, so I consider it more appropriate to consider it in the "reimbursement" rather than "entitlement" category.Reimbursed for family size?
Really.. Its the rare American that even knows that (SSA) Social Security is PURE SOCIALISM.. its not kinda like socialism its pure.. Americans ARE socialists..
Most readily see through that and you loose!
Praising the NRST entitlement scheme while pissing on the Constitution. Wow.
Like WIC.
No. That is a FACT and your denial of it in no way changes that.
Wipe your mouth.
Pissing on the Constitution?.. How'd you get that.. Really.. are you a democrat?.. or a woman?.. Most democrats are women you know... Probably because they are so easily manipulated.. and can't follow logic very well.. mostly..
You've joined a tax protest cult, AG.
“It is amazing how many people think that they can answer an argument by attributing bad motives to those who disagree with them. Using this kind of reasoning, you can believe or not believe anything about anything, without having to bother to deal with facts or logic.”
--Dr. Thomas Sowell
However, it is good of you to recognize I am against indeed against the oppessive and tyrannical taxation methods of taxation in the income/payroll tax systems.
As far as opposing oppressive tax systems, yep I do indeed protest such and am, at the least, in good company:
Patrick Henry, Virginia Ratifying Convention June 12, 1788:
- "the oppression arising from taxation, is not from the amount but, from the mode -- a thorough acquaintance with the condition of the people, is necessary to a just distribution of taxes.
"The government which steps out of the ranks of the ordinary articles of consumption to select and lay under disproportionate burdens a particular one because it is a comfort, pleasing to the taste or necessary to the health and will therefore be bought, is in that particular a tyranny. Taxes on consumption like those on capital or income, to be just, must be uniform."
Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Smith, 1823. ME 15:432
"Imposts, excises, and, in general, all duties upon articles of consumption, may be compared to a fluid, which will, in time, find its level with the means of paying them. The amount to be contributed by each citizen will in a degree be at his own option, and can be regulated by an attention to his resources. The rich may be extravagant, the poor can be frugal; and private oppression may always be avoided by a judicious selection of objects proper for such impositions. "
"The simplest system of taxation yet adopted is that of levying on the land and the laborer. But it would be better to levy the same sums on the produce of that labor when collected in the barn of the farmer; because then if through the badness of the year he made little, he would pay little. It would be better yet to levy it only on the surplus of this produce above his own wants. It would be better, too, to levy it, not in his hands, but in those of the purchaser; because though the farmer would in fact pay it, as the purchaser must deduct it from the original price of his produce yet the farmer would not be sensible that he paid it... What a comfort to the farmer to be allowed to supply his own wants before he should be liable to pay anything, and then to pay only out of his surplus."
Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1784. Papers 7:558
[Montesquieu wrote in Spirit of the Laws, XIII,c.14:]
- "A capitation is more natural to slavery; a duty on merchandise is more natural to liberty, by reason it has not so direct a relation to the person."
--Thomas Jefferson: copied into his Commonplace Book.
Tell me hose, how does standing on the sidelines carping at those who are trying to effect positive change working to remedy that?
If they would drop the rate from 30 per cent (exclusive) to 10 per cent (exclusive), I'm there, dude! Might as well get a tax cut out of the thing.
I'd be happy with a ten percent flat tax, until people are more used to the idea of a national consumption tax.
I have CBO data if you'd like it.
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