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SF ANSWER Counter-Protest After Report
8/12/06 | SeenTheLight

Posted on 08/12/2006 4:30:54 PM PDT by SeenTheLight

International ANSWER held a rally in San Franciso today to "protest" the existence of Israel. There was a lively counter-protest across the street, organized by SF Voice for Israel (SFV4I), Stand With Us, Protest Warrior and others. The two sides were separated by barricades and tons of police officers--looked like the entire SFPD.

We got there late in the day and made up the smaller afternoon contigent (maybe 30 people), but at its height, I was told there were around 400 people, which is huge for SF! Reportedly, there was a few thousand on the other side at its height. When I was there, it was pretty piddly, maybe a few hundred and most of them were Arabs. Some of the speeches were given in Arabic and followed by choruses of "Allu Akbar!" You could have been in Tehran. Meanwhile, Richard Becker of ANSWER droned on about the "revolution" and "creating a movement."

But most of the Arabs there looked like they just wanted to kill some Jews. As usual, the keffiyeh-clad terrorist wannabees and the headscarf brigade made the up the front lines, facing us and shaking their fists, doing Nazi salutes, knashing their teeth and being generally excitable. At one point several of them got hold of one of our Israeli flags and tried to burn it. But the cops immediately overwhelmed them and after a brief scuffle, ended up retrieving the flag and hauling off one of the terrorists. We cheered on the cops as the arrestee spit on the ground and made lewd gestures at us. He was loaded into a paddy wagon and taken away, much to our delight.

We hung out for a couple of hours, leaning on the barricades and waving Israeli and American flags. We flipped off passing cars with Pali flags and terrorist slogans, booed the speeches, and shouted "Go Israel!" Writer Lee Kaplan was there and he held a taperecorder up to a bullhorn, blasting that great Israeli song "Yalla Ya Nasrallah."

We brought an "ANSWER Hates Jews" sign and there were the usual SFV4I signs, plus a guy who brought more hardcore offerings. One of his signs had a picture of the planet and it said above it "Islam: It's a Blast." Another said "Religion of Peace?" and underneath something along the lines of "Suicide Bombings, Headcutters, and Terrorists," the letters dripping blood.

Several Tikkunites (Tikkun Community, Jewish peaceniks) were on our side, which was a first. Mostly likely the blatant anti-Semitism of the lefties and jihadists finally got to them. But their sickening signs calling for an immediate "Cease-fire" and intoning of "Peace Now" slogans didn't exactly endear them to our crowd. A couple of people confronted them about it and several debates ensued. Two of the Tikkunites ended up slinking off to the other side, while a few others remained with us.

We all started leaving around 3:30pm because the other side reportedly had plans to attack once our numbers dwindled and the cops had taken off. I have to say the SFPD did a great job and if not for them, the terrorists would certainly have gotten violent. That must be why SFV4I members driving by had their license plate numbers concealed.

But despite their efforts at intimidation, our enemies no longer go unopposed in this leftwing city. The San Francisco counter-protest movement is here to stay.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aar; activism; answer; counterprotest; hezbollah; islam; israel; left; leftists; palestinian; protestwarrior; rally; sanfrancisco; terrorism

1 posted on 08/12/2006 4:30:55 PM PDT by SeenTheLight
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To: Syncro; CounterCounterCulture

Ping!


2 posted on 08/12/2006 4:32:21 PM PDT by SeenTheLight
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To: SeenTheLight
400 in San Franciso? Those Commie nutcases appear to have a very limited following.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

3 posted on 08/12/2006 4:32:52 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeenTheLight

Act Now to Stop Whining and End Recto-Cranitis*

(* head-up-a$$ disease)

4 posted on 08/12/2006 4:33:53 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: SeenTheLight
But most of the Arabs there looked like they just wanted to kill some Jews.

Are you sure there weren't Pakistanis and Iranians in the mix? One major error is to call all Muslims Arabs.

5 posted on 08/12/2006 4:34:49 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: SeenTheLight

Holy Moly! I don't think I would ever step into S.F. again.

Aren't they another country now?

BUMP to all of you!


6 posted on 08/12/2006 4:35:25 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SeenTheLight; Pyro7480

Picky.

Seen, just say Middle Easterns next time ;)


7 posted on 08/12/2006 4:36:55 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Pyro7480

Nearly all Arabs are Muslim and they hate Jews, c'mon.....

A Muslim is a Muslim is a Muslim. Islam is as Islam does.

Farsi, Arabic, Urdu, does it matter? Bloody savages all.


8 posted on 08/12/2006 4:40:56 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970

Exactly.


9 posted on 08/12/2006 4:41:36 PM PDT by SeenTheLight
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To: goldstategop

There were 400 on our side. A few thousand on theirs. Pretty pitiful (for them), really.


10 posted on 08/12/2006 4:42:28 PM PDT by SeenTheLight
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To: xcamel
you mean this?

and this?

11 posted on 08/12/2006 4:44:07 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SeenTheLight

I wonder how eager the cowardly ANSWER a-holes would be to pick a fight if the numbers were even.

This is what leftist "peace" is really like. The party of Harry Truman and JFK has become the party of Ned Lamont, Michael Moore, and Hezbollah.


12 posted on 08/12/2006 4:45:34 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: SandRat
That's

A.N.S.W.E.R.

in a nutshell.

(pun intended)

13 posted on 08/12/2006 4:46:50 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: SeenTheLight

When the day comes for someone to speak up on behalf for San Franscisco, there shall be no one left.


14 posted on 08/12/2006 4:47:26 PM PDT by alloysteel (My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling, but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places.)
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To: SeenTheLight

Way to go SF
In San Diego today, was part of pro Israeli folks vs. the same type of Arab Fascists you delt with.
They are beyond brainwashed..


15 posted on 08/12/2006 5:17:21 PM PDT by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: elcid1970; Calpernia
Nearly all Arabs are Muslim and they hate Jews, c'mon

I wasn't saying that. I'm saying that, reenforced with the recent plot involving mainly Pakistanis, who look nothing like Arabs, it's an inaccurate thing to overgeneralize. Muslims can be white (Bosnians, Albanians, Chechen), black (Muslims from all over Africa, converts in America), south Asian (Pakistani, Afghani), Middle Eastern (Arab, Persian, Turk), and east Asian (Indonesian, Malay, Filipino).

16 posted on 08/12/2006 5:17:59 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Pyro7480

I probably should have said "Muslims" for the sake of accuracy. But almost all of the Muslims here in SF are Arabs ("Palestinians"), so it's not that far off the mark.


17 posted on 08/12/2006 5:26:44 PM PDT by SeenTheLight
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To: SeenTheLight; Cool Guy; CounterCounterCulture; Arkat Kingtroll; bayareablues; pbear8; Jerez2; ...

Seen the Light Ping


18 posted on 08/12/2006 6:09:31 PM PDT by SmithL (The fact that they can't find Hoffa is proof that he never existed.)
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To: Pyro7480

Just what part of Muslim (as in I hate and will kill anyone who is not a Muslim like I am a Muslim) do you not understand?

Nazi Germans who mass murdered Jews were Prussian, Hessian, Bavarian, Westphalian, Berliner, and Hannoverian.

How diverse. We must understand diversity.


19 posted on 08/12/2006 6:10:47 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: SmithL; SeenTheLight

Great Job! Did anyone get any pictures?


20 posted on 08/12/2006 6:12:02 PM PDT by stratman1969 (CLINTON LIED - 3,000+ DIED)
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To: Pyro7480

Then how about, all those who come sit under the 'Arab Tent', as Uday called it?


21 posted on 08/12/2006 6:12:28 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SeenTheLight
Oops... 400 for ours? That's a good turnout when you consider San Francisco is home to just about the most addled minds on the planet.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)

22 posted on 08/12/2006 6:12:52 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: elcid1970
I can live with calling them all socialists. That would include A.N.S.W.E.R. too then. After all, Hitler's Islamic name was Abu Ali.

I'm currently reading 'His Own Words, a Translation of the Writings of Dr. Ayman Al Zawahiri', translated and published by our own freeper, StillProud2befree.

Zawahiri's writings read just like Mein Kampf.

Mein Kampf reads just like Stalin's Industrialization plans. So using socialists instead of worrying about what nationality a Muslim is, would work well and be even more accurate.
23 posted on 08/12/2006 6:18:27 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

How can I get the book by StillProud2befree?


24 posted on 08/12/2006 6:23:53 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)
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To: SeenTheLight
Hey STL. Sorry I missed y'all today. I was there with the forces for good at the beginning, and then when the commies and beheaders went off for their little tour of the neighborhood I left for a while. After the march returned I passed through the plaza again and checked out their side for a bit. Their numbers were pitiful and they were all ugly and boring (excepting the ugly and menacing few). All of the garden variety Bay Area lefties had gone and only the hard core commies and Jew-hating Islamists remained. I saw the last knot of sane people in front of City Hall (you must have been among them) but didn't rejoin since I was tired of the Arabist harrangue by then. Again, sorry I missed you.

(To those drawing distinctions here, as it happens the Bay Area jihadists are almost entirely "Palestinians" and other Arabs. Most Persian, South Asian and African Muslims in these parts are seemingly fewer in number or less retarded or something, since you don't see them out making asses of themselves like you do the Arabs.)

Anyway there is another thread with photos (just click above on the keyword SANFRANCISCO for the link). I'll copy here my brief report of the day I posted there:

Somebody tell me these photos are real and this really happened.

These photos are real and this really happened. I was there. If anything the photos underrepresent the forces of good assembled at City Hall today, since they are so close up. There were perhaps 400 - 500 people on the side of sanity and truth. Of course, the beheaders and communists had a few thousand on their side, but this was far and away the best relative showing for our side at a major FRisco rally ever. (I know, I go to them all.) It was a beautiful day. The cops were great to us. They are a bit hyper about keeping the sides separated at protests these days, but some of the jihadi wannabes are pretty squirrely, so you can't blame the SFPD for being cautious. Still, we've had more fun in the past when we've gone toe-to-toe with the leftie psychos. Arguing with and belittling commies is fun, since they are often of normal middle-class American backgrounds - you can sometimes reach them with rational and moral arguments. The jihadis are a completely different matter, however. They are full of tribal blood-lust and hatred and are simply unreachable and incomprehensible. Those are the ones that make you grateful for a nice beefy line of officers between you and them. All in all it was a great day of FReeping in Goofytown. I hope there will be more pictures later at zombietime.com, your home for that special breed of idiocy for which the Bay Area is justly famous worldwide. Aloha!

25 posted on 08/12/2006 6:24:02 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: stratman1969
Great Job! Did anyone get any pictures?

See my reply #25.

26 posted on 08/12/2006 6:25:33 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: AliVeritas

http://www.lauramansfield.com/j/default.asp


27 posted on 08/12/2006 6:26:01 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: stratman1969; SmithL; SeenTheLight

Here's the link for the other thread with photos:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1682627/posts


28 posted on 08/12/2006 6:27:55 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam
Hotlink for San Francisco Photos
29 posted on 08/12/2006 6:28:28 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: rogue yam

Missed it by this much.

(in the voice of Get Smart)


30 posted on 08/12/2006 6:29:04 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: rogue yam

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1682564/posts

31 posted on 08/12/2006 6:30:40 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: elcid1970
Just what part of Muslim (as in I hate and will kill anyone who is not a Muslim like I am a Muslim) do you not understand?

I think we're arguing over nothing. The false religion of Islam must be destroyed.

How diverse. We must understand diversity.

Know your enemy.

32 posted on 08/12/2006 6:39:53 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Calpernia
Then how about, all those who come sit under the 'Arab Tent', as Uday called it?

Uday, like his father, like all Baathists, are Arab nationalists before being Muslim.

33 posted on 08/12/2006 6:42:02 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Pyro7480

I don't understand your response in reference to Uday's call.


34 posted on 08/12/2006 6:45:33 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Well, I guess I need the full context of his quote then.


35 posted on 08/12/2006 6:47:24 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Pyro7480

Uday's Editorial on Resolution 1441
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/860029/posts


36 posted on 08/12/2006 6:51:23 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: kanawa

Thanks for the ping! That guy is great!


37 posted on 08/12/2006 6:56:13 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Calpernia
The only reference to "Arab tent" is the following excerpt:

There should be no acceptance of the resolution unless it will be under the Arab tent. If not the Arab tent, then the Arab League.

As I thought, he's speaking in Arab nationalist terms. Think of it in Nazi terms. The Nazis wanted to unite all Germanic peoples under one regime. The Baathist regime under Saddam and his sons wanted to unite all the Arab peoples under their regime.

38 posted on 08/12/2006 6:56:39 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Pyro7480
No. He wasn't speaking in Nationalist terms. They are all that signed the Cultural Treaty. Predominantly Arab States, BUT not limited to.
39 posted on 08/12/2006 7:03:04 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SeenTheLight

Violence at a Peace Protest?


40 posted on 08/12/2006 7:03:45 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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To: SeenTheLight
And from the Chronicle: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1682672/posts
41 posted on 08/12/2006 7:34:26 PM PDT by SmithL (The fact that they can't find Hoffa is proof that he never existed.)
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To: rogue yam

Thanks, Rogue Yam! And sorry I missed you too. Have passed on the pics to interested parties...


42 posted on 08/12/2006 10:15:09 PM PDT by SeenTheLight
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To: SeenTheLight

Pics of the evil ones here...
http://www.zombietime.com/stop_the_us_israeli_war_8_12_2006/


43 posted on 08/12/2006 10:37:41 PM PDT by SeenTheLight
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To: SeenTheLight

Any of the "Scrotal Inflation" guys? You did say San Francisco...


44 posted on 08/12/2006 10:39:22 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Not this time, thank g-d!


45 posted on 08/12/2006 11:03:39 PM PDT by SeenTheLight
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To: SeenTheLight

More pics courtesy of the scumbags themselves....

Here's the guy who was arrested for trying to burn an Israeli flag:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/08/12/18296578.php

Our side, with some hardcore signs, I'll admit, but so what?
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/08/12/18296586.php

If you can stomach it, the rest of the pics, videos and commentary are linked here:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/08/07/18295414.php


46 posted on 08/12/2006 11:33:05 PM PDT by SeenTheLight
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To: SeenTheLight

ahh, the religion of peace


47 posted on 08/12/2006 11:36:05 PM PDT by World_Events
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To: SeenTheLight
At one point several of them got hold of one of our Israeli flags and tried to burn it.

Needed novelty item: Stink Flag. Looks (and smells) like an ordinary flag, until burned, whereupon the flag-burner and all in the immediate vicinity are inundated by, and coated with, a thick cloud of gag-inducing skunk-stink.

Oh, wait... That's not gonna work, is it?

Maybe a flag that releases deodorant?

48 posted on 08/13/2006 10:53:23 AM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: World_Events
Right... Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
49 posted on 08/13/2006 6:34:37 PM PDT by Illuminatas (Being conservative means never having to say; "Don't you dare question my patriotism")
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To: alloysteel

I am looking for the nicole kiddman ad taken in the paper supporting the war. sorry I'm off subject.


50 posted on 08/29/2006 1:58:05 PM PDT by jincarolina
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