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Border group's finances a secret (Simcox-Minuteman)
The Washington Times ^ | 8-15-2006 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 08/15/2006 12:58:22 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

A Texas firm that manages hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations to the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps says it has not been authorized to divulge a detailed accounting of the funds, despite assurances by the MCDC's top official that it would do so.

Maureen E. Otis -- president of American Caging Inc. in Stafford, Texas, an agency hired to collect, deposit and disburse donations to the civilian border-patrol group -- told The Washington Times that neither MCDC President Chris Simcox nor the group's board of directors had given her permission to "disclose any numbers."

Mr. Simcox, who has been criticized by current and former MCDC members for a lack of leadership and financial accountability, had referred The Times to Mrs. Otis, saying she could "tell you everything" to clear up the concerns.

Instead, Mrs. Otis issued a statement saying only that all Minuteman donations have been "securely collected, counted and deposited" in MCDC bank accounts.

Telephone calls to Mr. Simcox in Phoenix, where he reportedly is on paternity leave, were routed to Minuteman spokeswoman Connie Hair in Virginia, who said the organization was not going to release "any unaudited numbers." She said that an audit will be completed in November and that any release of figures prior to that "is just not going to happen......."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; botsonparade; immigration; lametry; minuteman; minutemen; mmp; simcox
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To: Registered

BRAVO !

LOL.....this is one of your very best ever. :-)

61 posted on 08/15/2006 2:43:51 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I'll be watching! I would have anyway, but this gives me more incentive to do so.

Thanks for the info. :-)

62 posted on 08/15/2006 2:47:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Perhaps, if Connie actually knew what she was doing, she would not constantly be connected to scam artists and have to make silly excuses or decline to answer questions.

You know, it really doesn't matter, because they've duped enough people who will believe what she says, and who will keep sending money no matter how few results they see, just because they believe in The Cause.

So Connie, the Sheldons, Mary Parker Lewis, Alan Keyes, and plenty of others will continue to make a very good living, while people who probably can't really afford it will continue to send donations in hopes of seeing results.

The people who are sending money to these groups, I believe, are good, sincere, well-meaning people, who can't (or maybe don't want to) believe that groups claiming to be founded on moral, religious, and conservative principles might in reality be scam artists.

63 posted on 08/15/2006 3:10:12 PM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: nopardons
So, if Simcox is pocketing a lot of money/misspending it, has NO real control over it ( how can someone have control of something, when he has no idea how much or how little money he has ?) and lying about what monies, vis-a-vis what actual hard products were donated and NOT bought, you don't care? Why not?

Can you prove any of this? I have seen no proof that any of these accusations are true. Until I see proof I don't care. Why should I?

There are laws on how businesses and charities and everything in between are to be run. He hasn't followed any of them.

Again show me the proof!

Neither has he done ANYTHING whatsoever, to keep illegals out of this country.

Were you there to witness that nothing was done?

THERE ARE NO RESULTS, from Simcox's group; NONE.

He started a movement, that has resulted in National Guard troops on the border, Yes on the Border, I have seen them, I have talked to them, I have spoken to BP agents who are happy they are there. Achiving the original goal, falls into the category of NO RESULTS in your mind? One of us is missing something here.

He built a CATTLE fence for a rancher who didn't want to spend his own money on a new one.

What does that have to do with anything?

64 posted on 08/15/2006 3:31:38 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Amelia

What exactly is "The Cause"?


65 posted on 08/15/2006 3:34:53 PM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: c-b 1

I think some people would like a more thorough explanantion on the relationship between the MM and the Declaration Alliance.


66 posted on 08/15/2006 3:37:06 PM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Kimberly GG
Perhaps if she spoke in Spanish, the anti-borders, anti-"vigilante", anti-deportation, anti-anyone who dares criticizes Bush" crowd, might comprende?

Opposing Jim and Tammy Faye Baker did not equate to Satanism. Asking "Where's the fence?" does not equate to speaking Spanish. Wake up. Simcox is all talk and no fence. They've collected a million dollars. Where's the fence?


67 posted on 08/15/2006 3:52:30 PM PDT by Nick Danger (www.redeploymurtha.com)
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To: nopardons; Bob J; Nick Danger; Amelia; unsycophant; catholicfreeper; Rex Anderson; Texasforever; ...
I Checked O'Reilly's site and Simcox will be on the Factor tonight.

"Factor Follow Up Segment
Money for the Minutemen
Guest: Chris Simcox, Minutemen

Where is all of the money being donated to the border-patrolling Minutemen group going?"

68 posted on 08/15/2006 4:11:38 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Registered

I suppose your alternative is to just let them come, right?


70 posted on 08/15/2006 4:27:12 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Amelia
Causes are fine, but what isn't so "fine", is that many of those who are so emotionally tied to the cause that they not only won't look at the facts, but refuse to hear any negative facts put forth, at all. That really does make them mind numbed robots.

The scammers just keep on moving from one scam to another, lining their collective pockets. They don't care who they bilk, nor who or what cause they hurt; they have theirs and that's all that matters to them.

72 posted on 08/15/2006 5:21:36 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons; Amelia

EV-entually we'll get to the bottom of this.

Either they are clean or they aren't, but I would think that they would be RUSHING to prove they are clean, yet they aren't.

Circumstantial yes, but their PR campaign sucks.


73 posted on 08/15/2006 5:22:41 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - I BEEEEEEELLLLLLIIEEEEVVVEEEEEEE in the conspiracy of the flying knee....)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Here it is...he's on. Simcox just said that he hired THE BEST caging company.

He's now lying about filing with the IRS. He says that Nov. 15th is WHEN is was supposed to file. No mention of the TWO extensions he's already gotten.

He claims that he hired the caging company in APRIL OF 2005. LOL

He's claiming that most of the money went to buying equipment, equipment we all know were NOT bought, but which were donated.

Well, that was short and nothing but lies and more lies.

74 posted on 08/15/2006 5:27:15 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: MikefromOhio
All of this should have been handled sooooooooo differently! And if, (BIG IF !), this was all under such immaculate control and being handled by THE VERY BEST, since APRIL of 2005, why is it all oh so secret now and WHY did they need TWO extensions?

EV-entually, perhaps we'll get something other than all of this obfuscation; but I doubt it.

75 posted on 08/15/2006 5:31:31 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
O'Reilly let him off easy. When Simcox said a reason they don't disclose now is that if they were off a dollar, they would be criticized and all O'Reilly said was "I don't know". Very weak.

O'Reilly did not prepare for this one.

76 posted on 08/15/2006 5:32:10 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Nick Danger

One million six, but that's what Simcox claims; it might me a great deal more. Simcox now says he have no idea how much money has been collected.


77 posted on 08/15/2006 5:33:53 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

yep

I wonder, EV-entually they have to file, even though they just absolutely blew that question as you pointed out.

Pretty sickening.

I'm 100% certain there's fire behind the smoke now. If you filed for an extension, just say so. Don't lie about it.


78 posted on 08/15/2006 5:36:47 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - I BEEEEEEELLLLLLIIEEEEVVVEEEEEEE in the conspiracy of the flying knee....)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"O'Reilly did not prepare for this one."

I completely agree. Do you realize that we saw an entire interview and there was one thing that was not mentioned.......the fence. The fence which was used to fool people into sending their money.

79 posted on 08/15/2006 5:36:56 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A Citizen Reporter

That is right! They did not mention the fence.


80 posted on 08/15/2006 5:41:14 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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