Posted on 08/16/2006 7:19:55 AM PDT by presidio9
FIVE weeks have passed since the kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers provoked Israel to launch its most unsatisfactory military operation in 58 years. What problem has been solved, or even ameliorated? Hezbollah, often using World War II-vintage rockets, has demonstrated the inadequacy of Israel's policy of unilateral disengagement - from Lebanon, Gaza, much of the West Bank - behind a fence. Hezbollah has willingly suffered (temporary) military diminution in exchange for enormous political enlargement. Hitherto, Hezbollah in Lebanon was a "state within a state." Henceforth, the Lebanese state may be an appendage of Hezbollah. Hezbollah is an army that, having frustrated the regional superpower, suddenly embodies, as no Arab state ever has, Arab valor vindicated in combat with Israel.
The "new Middle East," the "birth pangs" of which we supposedly are witnessing, reflects the region's oldest tradition, the tribalism that preceded nations. The faux and disintegrating nation of Iraq, from which the middle class, the hope of stability, is fleeing, has experienced in these five weeks many more violent deaths than have occurred in Lebanon and Israel. U.S. Gen. George Casey says 60 percent of Iraqis recently killed are victims of Shiite death squads. Some are associated with the Shiite-controlled Interior Ministry, which resembles a terrorist organization.
The London plot against civil aviation confirmed a theme of an illuminating new book, Lawrence Wright's "The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11." The theme is that better law enforcement, which probably could have prevented 9/11, is central to combating terrorism. F-16s are not useful tools against terrorism that issues from places such as Hamburg (where Mohamed Atta lived before dying in
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Still shillin' for DC cocktail party invites, eh George? Erudition over expertise. *spit*
My brother recently used his law-enforcement experience to facilitate the capture of one of the most wanted in Iraq. The townspeople were willing to rat him out, but not in public...when the combat units had come through, they tried to shake the info out and got nowhere.
My brother told them to take the people aside and talk with them privately (my brother was prohibited from intervening directly, though the people wanted to give him the info)...and guess what? Success!
So it is folly to fail to recognize the importance of this being a multi-front, multi-technique war.
George Will is from the Land of Lincoln, not the North East.
george will could get a HOTTIE ???? lol...george will would have to beg helen thomas for a date for pete's sake...thanks for the laugh of the week
[John Kerry said] (as paraphrased by The New York Times Magazine of Oct. 10, 2004) that "many of the interdiction tactics that cripple drug lords...
...and we all know how well the war on drugs is going, and going, and going, and going...
... including governments working jointly to share intelligence, patrol borders...
Are American borders being patrolled? The Census bureau's count of overwhelming illegal immigration casts doubt on the effectiveness of our border control.
... and force banks to identify suspicious customers...
...as in holding onto inheritance checks while investigating the depositer domestically, as the very same New York Times blows the cover on government investigating international banking transactions...
... can also be some of the most useful tools in the war on terror."
... oh, yeah. George Will has finally gone wobbly.
What is sabermetrics, and when was GW ruminating on it?
I've often had the suspicion (really don't know where it comes from) that Will's baseball obsession is 100% faked. He has no interest in the game and never even watches it, but this "obsession" is put on to give him a regular guy, hot dog eating, beer drinking type image. Maybe my suspicion comes from the fact that I simply cannot picture him tearing his hair out, screaming at the tv, "You call that a strike!!!!!!!!!!!??????????? You stupid mother*&#%^$, idiot!!" Also, it separates him from EVERY other pundit in the world. Just try to find a Will interview that does NOT start out with somebody asking him baseball questions. No other pundit that I've ever seen gets any personal type/hobby type questions asked.
I share your suspicion. And we also know that Will likes to make lies up, just to do it.
Riddle me this George Will: How much law enforcement would it take to remove the Taliban? How much to counter Iran's nuclear weapons?
George Will is catching Buckleyitis, only Will doesn't have accomplishments for the cause that will allow him to be excused for becoming a doddering old fool.
Teriffic analogy. Will has been steadily making me sick lately.
Yep. It's true. IIRC her name is Mari Maseng, and she was quite pretty, at least 15 years or so ago when he married her. A tall blonde of Norwegian descent.
The "disintegrating" state of Iraq is not just falling apart on its own, however. It is being taken apart, by a nation state (Iran) via their support for Shia insurgents, since Al Qaida has been all but beaten in Iraq, and Sunni insurgents were ready to seek accommodation with the democratically elected government. Now we see Iran forcing the issue in Lebanon and Iraq, risking all out war, yet smugly confident in Western and American weakness and recalcitrance in the face of their bold subversion and aggression.
The blinders of age and the fog of fatigue seem to be the limiting factor in once trenchant opinions of George Will. He has failed to see how history is repeating itself, and that the "law enforcement" option is not the comprehensive solution, neither has it been neglected in any way by the Bush administration. Will misses the point entirely; he and Kerry are the ones limiting the options in the war on Terror, not Bush.
Everyone here correctly points out the glaring absurdity of trying to resurrect the "Clinton Doctrine" of ostrich-like inaction and nonrecognition of the essential threat, anti-western Islamic-jihadist expansionism. We call it "Islamo-Fascism". That "doctrine" if you can call it that, was one of buck-passing, cover-up, ideological blindness, and bureaucratic stupidity. It supposedly "fought" global Islamic terrorism with "law enforcement" and "intelligence gathering", while at the same time, ham stringing FBI, NSA, and CIA operatives with idiotic PC constraints to placate anti-American Leftist elements both inside and outside the country.
Even though it is not allowed to be reported on the MSM, no one can deny the conclusion that the Clinton Doctrine directly led to 9/11, and even aided its execution through the bumbling ineptitude of people like Sandy Berger and Richard Clarke. Imagine a police-line tape surrounding the six mile wide crater where Washington DC once stood, and the image of detectives jotting down clues in little notebooks as they look on at the "crime scene" of a future ground zero. "Absurd" is to be replaced with "Obscene" when describing this scene, which would be made inevitable if Will's will is exerted on the foreign policy organs of the United States.
That's why I never had any use for George Will's columns over the years (in Newsweek). It was either Sabermetrics or pontificating on what was going on outside his office window.
Will/Buckley/Buchanan no longer represent the Conservative movement in this country. They are tired and should be put out to pasture.
The real voice of the right can now be heard from Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Laura Ingraham.
This unfortunately is the same argument that James Fallows makes in the current Atlantic. Basically declare victory in the war on terror and accept the nuisance attacks because in his view alQueda is no longer capable of successfully launching a 9/11 style attack. For which he does credit Bush's war on terror. But he sees the Long War as unacceptable and feels that we can legitimately declare it over and we the victors.
Right Mr. Will.
No need for the Israeli Army nor the Lebanese Army (do they have guns too?), nor the UN (do they know which end of the gun is the 'bad' end?) Armed Forces to deal with the Hezzi terrorist in Lebanon.
Only the Lebanonese police are needed.
Um, why is it that supposed intellectuals act like they had to repeat 3rd grade until a retirement ceremony rather than a graduation ceremony?
And that is the big lie sold by the American Junk media and it willing acolytes like the Neo Isolationist George Will.
Iraq is NOT disintegrating. Look at the casualties figures. Same basic low lever of violence month in and month out. The "Escalating Violence" is an utter LIE. Sold to Junk Media whores by Iraq stringers who have learned to feed the beast the lies it wants to hear. Basically the only people who understand Iraq LESS then the current leadership of the Democrat Party are the various Talking Heads whores like George Wills.
The Iraq security forces ACTUALLY were suffering higher monthly casualty rates all last year then they have in 2006. Look at the city and provinces the Iraqis have assumed full responsibility for. Iraq is a victory that desperate idiots like George Wills simply REFUSE to see cause that would require them to admit they have been wrong about Iraq ALL along.
What we have here is a DC-New York Media Establishment too childish and arrogant to admit they have been all wrong about Iraq from the start. SO instead they simply keep screaming the lie about Iraq to avoid admitting Bush has been right all along.
HERE is what we have been up to in Iraq. Bigoted senile old farts like Wills are simply to arrogant fixated on their own mistaken notions of their infallibility to grasp the world they thought they knew DIED on 09-11-01
Iraq always has been the War on Islamic Fascists. HERE is what we are up to in Iraq. Counter Insurgency is a strange bastard style of war. It is not total war but it is also more then the Leftist" Police matter". The other thing most old Cast Iron Conservatives forget is the political aspect. Iraq was doable. We had the political consensus to do it. So since we needed a kill zone we could suck the terrorists into and we needed to get the American people to support the cost, there was no other choice BUT Iraq. Want to really blow the Leftists minds? Tell them this. Even if Al Gore won in 2000 and 9-11 happened the USA would STILL be doing the same thing now in Iraq. Iraq was doable militarily and politically. There was no other place for the US to go. Iraq is basically the same deal as the invasions of Italy was in 1943 Here in a nutshell, is the strategic military reason for Iraq.
The War on Terrorism is different sort of war. In the war on Terrorism, we have a hidden foe, spread out across a geographically diverse area, with covert sources of supply. Since we cannot go everywhere they hide out, in fact often cannot even locate them until the engage us, we need to draw them out of hiding into a kill zone. Iraq is that kill zone.
That is the true brilliance of the Iraq strategy. We draw the terrorists out of their world wide hiding places onto a battlefield they have to fight on for political reasons (The "Holy" soil of the Arabian peninsula) where they have to pit their weakest ability (Conventional Military combat power) against our greatest strength (ability to call down unbelievable amounts of firepower) where they will primarily have to fight other forces (the Iraqi Security forces) in a battlefield that is hostile to guerrilla warfare. (Iraqi-mostly open terrain as opposed to guerrilla friendly areas like the mountains of Afghanistan or the jungles of SE Asia).
There are other reasons to do Iraq but that is the MILITARY reason we are in Iraq. We have taken, an maintain the initiative from the Terrorists. They are playing OUR game on ground of OUR choosing.
Problem is Counter Insurgency is SLOW and painful. Often a case of 3 steps forward, two steps back. I often worry that the American people have neither the maturity, nor the intellect" to understand. It's so much easier to spew made for TV slogans like "No Blood for Oil" or "We support the Troops, bring them home" then to actually THINK. Problem is these people have NO desire to co-exist with us. They see all this PC posturing by the Hysteric Left as a sign that we are weak. Since they want us dead, weakness encourages them. They think their "god" will bless them for killing Westerners.
So we can covert to Islam, die or kill them. Iraq is about killing enough of them to make the rest realize we are serious. See in the Arab world the USA is considered a big wimp. We have run away so many times. Lebanon, the Kurds, the Iraqis in 1991, the Iranians, Somalia, Clinton all thru the 1990s etc etc etc. The Jihadists think we will run again. In fact they are counting on it. That way they can run around screaming "We beat the American just like the Russians, come join us in Jihad" and recruit the next round of "holy warriors". Iraq is also a show place where we show the Muslim world that there are a lines they cannot cross. On 9-11 they crossed that line and we can, and will, destroy them for it
Thank you for that enlightening, well-argued response.
Considering the emotion based inordinately ignorant post he was responding to that was the only perfectly enlightening, well-argued response he needed to give. Anything additional would of been a waste of both time and effort.
Glad you have strong feelings against the Bush Administration and the State Department, please stop confusing your feelings for facts.
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