Posted on 08/17/2006 9:48:43 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
Yep those poor muslim victims - of a muslim TERRORIST under FBI investigation who set fires to cover part of the evidence. Those poor misunderstood muslims. Read the link.
If You think it is going down to the muslims level to enjoy the fact that the fires They set deprive them of their US headquarters then you have a totally different set of ethics than any I am even familiar with.
Seeing how it's Kurdish...
I'd put money on some ticked folks of Turkish stripes (or other Islamic rivals).
If I was a betting man.
But is it morally equivalent with cutting off someone's head?
"I agree. But the way to get her to do that is not to burn down mosques, or to cheer the burning of mosques."
Again, this is new ground for everyone. America has never faced this type of threat.
I know that we are at war. If you don't think we are at war, then you can stop here. There will be no common ground.
If you agree we're at war, and the enemy is "radical islam" then we're on the same page. My view is that the radical part of islam is very large, and the consenting part is even larger.
I know that being timid in war will result in defeat.
I also know that the enemy has all tactics open to them. There is nothing they won't do. Nothing too cruel, nothing too evil. The enemy views all infidels as combatants, so there are no innocents, nothing off limits.
I also know that attacking islam directly, burning mosques, etc, will drive more muslims to radicalism. And there is the big problem... If we don't see the enemy as the enemy in order to save some good people, we risk dying, or being subjugated. If we take up the fight and fight as we need to, we will lose some to the radical side. Maybe, just maybe, if it is all out war, and things are made clear, as they should be, some of the good muslims will realize that their cult is a cult.
It's a dilemma. I'm not ready to burn mosques... yet. I know I detest muslims. I don't do business with muslims, I avoid them. Now, if that costs me meeting a good person, that's a casulty of war.
This is war, there will be casulties.
wow ... that's too bad ... only a couple hundred more (filled) and we're even for 9/11.
I don't know who set the fire, nor whether it was arson.
I don't disagree with you per se. I am very...I guess "pro-war" would be the right term to use. I was just very disgusted with the gleeful response of many on this thread to the mosque being burned. Reminded me of the Arabs cheering in the streets after 9/11. I'm not saying the two incidents are morally equivelant, but the attitude behind them is eerily similar.
This is true - but only if what is taught in a synagogue is morally equivalent to what is taught in a mosque. Destroying a Synagogue - to everyone on this thread I guess - would be like destroying an orchard. It would be good to know if the San Diego mosque was also an orchard, or if it was more like a munitions factory - where the ammo was probably going to be used against me and my family.
Kudos to you, 1rudeboy for elevating the level of discussion on this thread: we absolutely should question the morality of arson. Self-defence has to be brought into the calculus though IMO.
You are acting as if all Muslims are terrorists (or terrorist-sympathizers). I know one who is not. I am uncertain how to proceed under the Federal Rules of Evidence, so take your "concern" about anecdotal evidence and shove it. Nothing I can do will convince you otherwise.
They are the ones who bow next to, recite passages of mass murder with, hide, support, give alibis to the ones who wish to follow the commandments of satan aka muuuhamhead (Pigs be inseminating her)!
Just because she doesn't fly the plane, or detonate the bomb, or poison the water, doesn't mean she doesn't recite the same passages of murder in the terrorist training manual just like allah the rest of the islame-O facists!
She might be a really devoute person! Frankly I dont cair! She is not better than me or any other loyal American! She is a terrorist sympathizer, and enabler!
Tell me what she belives when she recites the koranus!!!!!
The shame is yours!!! Go worship satan with your pious friend!!
Blessed be the Name of The Lord that no churches or believers in God Almighty were hurt.
To reference agere_contra's post - This very much indicate that the mosque in question not an orchard, but a munitions factory.
Thank you for that superb link MrEdd. It does give an excellent picture of what was going on at the SanDiego centre. The Kurdish users of the centre wouldn't appear (on the face of it) to have been raving nutters: but the story about the secretive sponsor of the building is raising alarm bells. It looks like this was an inside job after all.
I should just add an "IMO" to that. It's not stated in the article - just my hunch
No I am acting like most RADICAL Muslims are terrorists or potential terrorists. I never said anything about the members of the mosque. When terrorists target "infidels", they do not bother to check to see if they voted for Bush or if they are Jewish, they kill whoever happens to be around. The alleged or imagined arsonist in this case is making the same mistake, theoretically, but it does not appear that the primary intent was to KILL. That is why I say they are not morally equivalent. Sorry that you had to get nasty rather than bother to read and try to understand.
could be mice chewing on wiring, like on planes.
So do you also approve of the eco-terrorists'"good starts"destroying cars and new homes?
Good point, I don't think anything can be ruled out until they have picked thru the ashes and rubble.
Take it to "the enemy"?
The Kurds are not our enemy.In fact,In Iraq,they seem to be one of our only reliable FRIENDS!
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