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Irish company challenges scientists to test 'free energy' technology [Oh Yeah!]
PhysOrg.com ^ | 18 August 2006 | Staff

Posted on 08/18/2006 7:37:36 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

An Irish company threw down the gauntlet on Friday to the worldwide scientific community to test a technology it has developed that it claims produces free energy.

The company, Steorn (http://www.steorn.net), says its discovery is based on the interaction of magnetic fields and allows the production of clean, free and constant energy -- a concept that challenges one of the basic rules of physics.

It claims the technology can be used to supply energy for virtually all devices, from mobile phones to cars.

Steorn issued its challenge through an advertisement in the Economist magazine this week quoting Ireland's Nobel prize-winning author George Bernard Shaw who said that "all great truths begin as blasphemies".

Sean McCarthy, Steorn's chief executive officer, said they had issued the challenge for 12 physicists to rigorously test the technology so it can be developed.

"What we have developed is a way to construct magnetic fields so that when you travel round the magnetic fields, starting and stopping at the same position, you have gained energy," McCarthy said.

"The energy isn't being converted from any other source such as the energy within the magnet. It's literally created. Once the technology operates it provides a constant stream of clean energy," he told Ireland's RTE radio.

McCarthy said Steorn had not set out to develop the technology, but "it actually fell out of another project we were working on".

One of the basic principles of physics is that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, it can only change form.

McCarthy said a big obstacle to overcome was the disbelief that what they had developed was even possible.

"For the first six months that we looked at it we literally didn't believe it ourselves. Over the last three years it had been rigorously tested in our own laboratories, in independent laboratories and so on," he said.

"But we have been unable to get significant scientific interest in it. We have had scientists come in, test it and, off the record, they are quite happy to admit that it works.

"But for us to be able to commercialise this and put this into peoples' lives we need credible, academic validation in the public domain and hence the challenge," McCarthy said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: crackpot; energy; ireland; perpetualmotion
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To: concerned about politics
Just give the fan a little push to get it started, and the repulsion keeps the blades moving.

That would be very interesting to see.

81 posted on 08/18/2006 8:48:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Fresh Wind
They don't need "credible, academic validation in the public domain", they need a working product.

You hit the nail on the head. I can make an argument that this is a scam without knowing anything about physics.

If they truly had invented a free-energy machine, they would have patented it and then published the theoretical work and a description of the machine's construction. A number of scientists around the world would then undertake to duplicate their findings and validate them.

Any other course of action points to a scam. It's very likely these people are simply trying to create a media buzz which they hope will translate into funding.

82 posted on 08/18/2006 8:48:53 AM PDT by mwilli20
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To: concerned about politics

The atmosphere and the earth make up the two ends of a giant capacitor; how to release its store?


83 posted on 08/18/2006 8:50:39 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer
Only if the magnets are moving.

We did tilt them. One magnet would sneak up behind the other and get close enough to get caught on the repulsion. It would push the blades around again.
I'm just a homeschooling mom and not an engineer. All I know is it worked and I gave the kids an A.

84 posted on 08/18/2006 8:51:01 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: jbp1

What if it works and they succeed in tapping it and then down the road, we suck the universe dry; what do we do then, smart guy?


85 posted on 08/18/2006 8:53:27 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: domenad

"This is absolute bullcrap. It's an accepted and proveable Gaussian theory that the line integral around any closed surface is 0. If this guy thinks he can get energy out of that, he's fooling himself. Nice try though."

Fantastic. No fly to Ireland and debunk it. You can pick up some fine Guiness while you are there.

Personally, Guiness is Gaelic for Genius, so for me, I believe my Irish brothers may be on to something.


86 posted on 08/18/2006 8:59:03 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Old Professer

Don't worry, they just found a 'black-hole' rich field in the Arcturus-beta Al-Wahibi nebula. They are going to point their p-tunnel magnetons there. Estimated to last 200 yrs at current rate of consumption.

Only need to clear it with their head scientist, Dr. Mullah Allah ben-Katoosk


87 posted on 08/18/2006 8:59:22 AM PDT by jbp1 (be nice now)
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To: Old Professer
The atmosphere and the earth make up the two ends of a giant capacitor; how to release its store?

Yes, but without starving something else. Like taking a pinch of energy from here, a pinch from there, without disrupting matter to the point where it changes it's basic form.
I wish I knew more about this stuff. I find it all fascinating. I love these threads.

88 posted on 08/18/2006 9:11:28 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: mwilli20
Taken to extremes, if enough probes were accelerated using this method the planet would slow down and collapse into the Sun.

Does Al Gore know?

89 posted on 08/18/2006 9:16:00 AM PDT by SampleMan
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To: SampleMan; domenad
I've wondered something for a while that perhaps you can answer. How can space probes etc. use planets to slingshot to a higher speed (perhaps the MSM just reports wrong)? I understand using a planet to execute a turn, but increasing speed seems impossible, as gravity should have the same effect outbound as inbound.

Remember the planet is moving in its assigned orbit as well. You end up adding part of the velocity of the planet to your spacecraft as you do the flyby. However, you cannot get something for nothing. The Planet loses the same energy that was gained by the spacecraft. (Albeit imperceptible)

90 posted on 08/18/2006 9:20:45 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: tdewey10
Cold Fusion alert. Extraordinary claims, require extraordinary proof alert too.

If they are ready for peer review then I think they just might have something here.

91 posted on 08/18/2006 9:20:47 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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To: Mark Felton

Actually, that device fails in a vacuum. But it works in very low pressure bulbs.


92 posted on 08/18/2006 9:22:10 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Mark Felton

It smells like they are looking for investors more than scientific approval. "If it seems to good to be true it probably is."


94 posted on 08/18/2006 9:28:13 AM PDT by Dr. I. C. Spots
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To: PatrickHenry

What the heck bump.


95 posted on 08/18/2006 9:28:56 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: pissant

"Exxon hit squads will be coming after this guy."


Do you recall an oldie named 'The Formula'????????


96 posted on 08/18/2006 9:31:23 AM PDT by litehaus
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To: Old Professer
Rotation?

I would not think that rotation would be a factor. The probe should not get so close that it is in the atmosphere or it would lose the momentum it had and burn up as well. If the probe is not in the atmosphere, I don't see how rotation would effect it.

97 posted on 08/18/2006 9:31:29 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Best excuse for a beer I've heard outside of my AA meetings. "It was for science!"


98 posted on 08/18/2006 9:32:52 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

Keep your eye on this one. ; )


99 posted on 08/18/2006 9:33:19 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: Doctor Stochastic

yer right..it is the air molecules that give it momentum.


100 posted on 08/18/2006 9:33:32 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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