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A Negotiation with Islamo-Fascism (RUSH)
Rush Limbaugh ^ | August 21, 2006 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 08/21/2006 6:10:38 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah

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RUSH: You know, the Muslims began a crusade years and years and years ago, and the Catholic Church didn't do anything about it for a hundred years. The Catholic Church got in gear and beat it back, but it took a long, long time. All the time they're trying to talk to them. All the while they're trying to negotiate. All the while they're trying to come to a mutual understanding. It's dangerous because these are people that genuinely want to wipe us out, and there's a significant portion of our population that does not realize that. Look it, let me try another analogy with you. Let's say that we're going to negotiate with -- pick a terrorist group -- Al-Qaeda. What's Al-Qaeda's sworn mission? (See, you gotta have courage to admit this, though.)

Al-Qaeda's sworn mission is to kill us. That is the mission of militant Islam. It's to wipe out infidels, and we are the worst of all because we are Christian and we are Western. Okay. We're going to negotiate with these people. Their starting point is: you're dead. "We're not stopping 'til you're dead."

What's our counter? Do we say, "Uh, okay. How about, will you let us live for 50 years?"

"No. We're going to wipe you out in 30."

"Okay, well, uh, will you only take an arm from each of us for the first 50 years?"

"Nope. We're going to kill you all as soon as we can."

"No, no, no, no. That's not fair! We're negotiating with you. Will you settle for two arms and let us live?"

"Nope. Our mission is to kill you, infidel."

"Okay, uh, how about an arm and a leg and let us live for 50 years?"

"No! We are not compromising."

"Okay, how about if you kill half of us, the Republicans? If we give you the Republicans, will you --"

"No! We are going to kill all of you."

My point is, where do you negotiate with this? How do you negotiate with people whose objective is to kill you, Ms. Blumner? I'm sorry. I know it's a hard, cold reality we all have to face here, ladies and gentlemen.

"Well, how about if we let you have the Republicans and Mel Gibson?"

"No, we are going to kill every one of you, and you will be first."

That's how John Kerry would do it. How do you negotiate with that, folks? On what threshold or basis is there reason for any kind of settlement?

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 08/21/2006 6:10:39 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah
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2 posted on 08/21/2006 6:16:42 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Ooh-Ah
I have come to a conclusion about the question of why are some muslims good people, if Islam is so evil.

It's a conclusion, not an anwer. And my conclusion is this: There are good human beings who are Muslim. And they seem to be collectively frozen stiff about standing up to people who do unspeakable evil on a mass scale in the name of their god. They do nothing. I don't know why -- perhaps they are terrorized themselves. There may be lots of issues. But my conclusion is, if the good people who are Muslim cannot find the moral capital in their faith to stand up against the evil people who are Muslim, they must either renounce Islam or become evil themselves.

In other words, either your faith condones the evil or it condemns it. Let the good people who are Muslim find a faith that is suitable to their goodness, if it isn't Islam. And let's quit pretending Islam is both. It's one or the other.

3 posted on 08/21/2006 6:19:13 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Pray hard and do the math.)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Did anyone catch the President on TV around 10 this morning? I swear he almost used the phrase "islamofascists" but then backed off. Kind of like he was thinking hard about whether to use this expression or something less inflammatory. Maybe he used "islamofascists" later in the speech, I'm not sure. But I sure would like him to continue to use the phrase "islamofascists" and the like. We shouldn't be backing down for fear of upsetting whiny lib's and terrorists.
4 posted on 08/21/2006 6:19:31 PM PDT by jdm (I gotta give the Helen Thomas obsession a rest.)
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To: jdm

If we cannot name the enemy, we cannot defeat the enemy. PC will kill us all if we do not end it now. Simple.


5 posted on 08/21/2006 6:21:12 PM PDT by alarm rider (Those that vote for RINOS knowingly, have already admitted defeat.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
There are good human beings who are Muslim.

Yes good Muslims are terrorists. Muslims that do not fight and die for allah , or support the mujahadin are bad Muslims.

6 posted on 08/21/2006 6:23:44 PM PDT by mosquewatch.com (No Islam, Know Peace. www.mosquewatch.blogspot.com)
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To: mosquewatch.com

not quite sure what your reply means. I know some very good people who call themselves Muslim. If you can't fathom that, well, go one back to the TV set.


7 posted on 08/21/2006 6:25:05 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Pray hard and do the math.)
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To: jdm
Did anyone catch the President on TV around 10 this morning? I swear he almost used the phrase "islamofascists" but then backed off

I think I heard Rush say that GWB did use the term "hezzbos" this morning. I just got a feeling that term really upsets those "you know whats".

8 posted on 08/21/2006 6:26:02 PM PDT by OBXWanderer
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To: OBXWanderer

Rush did say the President used "hezbo's"


9 posted on 08/21/2006 6:28:52 PM PDT by unkus
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To: the invisib1e hand

Yep, and why don't you start facing East and praying five times a day?


10 posted on 08/21/2006 6:31:12 PM PDT by alarm rider (Those that vote for RINOS knowingly, have already admitted defeat.)
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To: alarm rider

DING, DING, DING! We have a winner!


11 posted on 08/21/2006 6:31:43 PM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: Ooh-Ah
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I prefer aggressive negotiations aka "negotiations with a lightsaber." Too bad we don't live in the GFFA.

12 posted on 08/21/2006 6:34:49 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: jdm

President Bush did call Hezbollah, "Hez-bos" in his conference today. That's good enough for me. Refer to them in "slang" and emasculate them! There is no doubt in my military mind that our current President "Gets It."

I just wish he'd Unleash the Hounds of Hell against our enemies, you know? ;)

Thank God we have him until January '08. I shudder to think what our country would be like if we had Algore or Kerry in charge all these years. *SHIVER*


13 posted on 08/21/2006 6:38:18 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: alarm rider

I'm an Aussie. I wonder if you would be so kind and take the time to answer me something I have never understood about the US.

Who ENFORCES what you call political correctness?

In contrast, in Oz, if I were to run around screaming 'effing muzzies' or (say) denigrate our aboriginals by calling them 'those blacks' the sky would not fall on me. Bad manners maybe...

So, what are you all so afraid of? It almost looks as if you are policing yourself!

Please tell me, why? Is it really necessary in the US to keep criticism anonymous? Can't call a spade a spade no more?


14 posted on 08/21/2006 6:38:40 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (ENEMY + MEDIA = ENEMEDIA)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Long before now (and I mean LONG before now), I stated repeatedly that Americans have been so insulated from the looming, widespread threat of Western extinction that even 9/11 wasn't enough. It will take the image of bodies stacked like cordwood - in the tens of thousands - before the national consciousness is awakened to the Islamofascist threat, among others. I soon realized that I was preaching to three distinct groups: 1) The Choir, who didn't need a wake-up call in the first place (and I count you good Freepers among them, TY); 2) The Appeasers, who by-and-large either A: put their faith in The Church Of Kofi Annan and The Right Rev. Jimmy Carter, B: crawl up their own skirts and disappear into their rectal cavities at the first sign of conflict, or C: sit in circles chanting Kumbaya while kissing the keisters of every lunatic and despot on the planet (Paging Cindy Sheehan!); and 3) the Moo-Eyed-Chew-My-Cud types who are content to let world events unfold around them as long as nobody runs the mower through their particular little corner of the global pasture. I eventually turned the volume down; if for nothing else, the sake of my own sanity.

I still stand behind that observation. It will take cities in flames before the Appeasers and suddenly-bleating Cattle help to mend the fence. If even then.


15 posted on 08/21/2006 6:40:19 PM PDT by Viking2002 (How to spot a hypocrite: those who protest first and loudest, are usually the most guilty.)
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To: alarm rider
Yep, and why don't you start facing East and praying five times a day?

So this is your response to the statement of the fact that there are people who are muslims that aren't interested in killing non-muslims?

Impressive.

16 posted on 08/21/2006 6:41:32 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Pray hard and do the math.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
President Bush did call Hezbollah, "Hez-bos" in his conference today.

Excellent!

17 posted on 08/21/2006 6:43:37 PM PDT by jdm (I gotta give the Helen Thomas obsession a rest.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Most people ignore PC. I am politically INCORRECT as much as possible and, in fact, I go out of my way to offend liberals whenever possible. PC = BS.


18 posted on 08/21/2006 6:43:45 PM PDT by unkus
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To: unkus

Are you kidding? GWB said Hezbos?

Why aren't lib heads exploding? Why hasn't the NY Times already written a scathing editorial about it? Why hasn't al jazeera gone totally ballistic?


19 posted on 08/21/2006 6:53:48 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl (The new axis of evil: The UN, the terrorists, and the American Democratic party.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Didn't you know that the term "you can't call a spade a spade" is politically incorrect? It's racists and a hate crime.
20 posted on 08/21/2006 6:58:01 PM PDT by fish hawk (Terror : in a cave in Afghanistan. Treason: in a cave-in , in the Democratic Party)
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To: JustaCowgirl

GWB has said Hezbos quite a few times. The libs don't like it but what can they do? They got upset when he called various terrorists Islamo-Fascists. Gaday, mate.


21 posted on 08/21/2006 6:59:25 PM PDT by unkus
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To: the invisib1e hand

I know some very good people who call themselves Muslim

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And I know some A$$holes who call themselves Christian. What's your point?

If your muslim friend attends a mosque, this is what he is being taught:

Preserving The
Islamic Identity in The West

The likeness of Islam and Kuffar is like that o f fresh clear spring water and water brought up from the bottom of a suburban sewer. If even a drop of the filthy water enters the clear water, the clarity diminishes. Likewise it only takes a drop of the filth of disbelief to contaminate Islam in the West. If we have it within our means we should therefore consider moving to a Muslim lan d whereby we can at least live amongst our brethren and within an Islamic society free from the contamination of the disbelievers.



By Br. Amir Abdullah

http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/commentdetail.asp?ID=12226&commentID=260388

IMO Can't happen soon enough.


22 posted on 08/21/2006 7:01:03 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (ENEMY + MEDIA = ENEMEDIA)
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To: Ooh-Ah

I heard this and it was spot on. Ridiculous to think you can talk to these animals like they are human beings. (with all apologies to animals of course.)


23 posted on 08/21/2006 7:02:21 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftists, the enemy within.)
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To: unkus

LOL The President listens to Rush Limbaugh on occasion. Using the "derogatory" nicknames helps with the anger against them...somewhat.


24 posted on 08/21/2006 7:02:41 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Tamar1973

Anyone else want to negotiate?
25 posted on 08/21/2006 7:03:55 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: the invisib1e hand
"I know some very good people who call themselves Muslim."

These so-called "good" muslims of yours had better start killing their own radicals because, when the Purge comes, we Americans are not going to differentiate.

26 posted on 08/21/2006 7:04:13 PM PDT by 10mm
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To: Ooh-Ah

This was fantastic today...thanks for posting,


27 posted on 08/21/2006 7:05:14 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle ("Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: madison10

Rush has quite a list of terms he uses for certain people or groups: Feminazi's, all sorts of "wacko's", etc. Most are very appropriate and right on. Do you get Rush down under?


28 posted on 08/21/2006 7:07:15 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Fred Nerks
Who ENFORCES what you call political correctness?

The MSM (main stream media); the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union-a pox on their houses); "civil rights" organizations like the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People)and CAIR (Arab group); public institutions of learning; and Liberals in general, enforce political correctness. The MSM sort of binds them all together into one huge, despicable family.

29 posted on 08/21/2006 7:08:47 PM PDT by madison10
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To: unkus

I'm sorry, I'm not the down under person. I just never heard the PRESIDENT use the term "hezbo."


30 posted on 08/21/2006 7:10:14 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Ooh-Ah
The difference between good and bad Muslims is that the good Muslims believe the world will ALL become Muslim SOMEDAY, and the bad Muslims want the world to be all Muslim NOW, but (this is important) they ALL believe Muslim will be the only Religion in the world, it's just a matter of HOW and WHEN.
31 posted on 08/21/2006 7:11:09 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle ("Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: madison10

Sorry, Madison10. Rush said he used the term at a press conference today.


32 posted on 08/21/2006 7:13:32 PM PDT by unkus
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To: the invisib1e hand
>"I know some very good people who call themselves Muslim."

Would they prevent their "brother" slimes from commiting mass murder?

They haven't yet!!!!

Tell me about how good they are again!!!

33 posted on 08/21/2006 7:14:11 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl! *-0(:~{>)
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To: unkus; fish hawk

...but but but...WHO ENFORCES pc? I mean, it's not like there's an arm of law enforcement going around taking names and writing out on the spot fines, is there?

So I Googled and found this:

California's governor recently signed a bill that made hate speech criminal. SB 1234 makes it a punishable offense to "intimidate" or "oppress" another person because of their ethnicity, sex, race, national origin, or sexual orientation. The California and Pennsylvania laws are similar to ones in Europe and Canada where people have been fined and sentenced to jail for preaching or writing that homosexuality is a sin.

http://www.chick.com/bc/2004/hatelaw.asp

Unbelievable! Your OPINION can land you in jail if you live in California or Pennsylvania?


34 posted on 08/21/2006 7:15:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (ENEMY + MEDIA = ENEMEDIA)
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To: Fred Nerks

Save us some space down there in OZ land 'cause when the PC noose gets too tight around our necks we Yanks may just come for a visit...and stay.


35 posted on 08/21/2006 7:18:25 PM PDT by madison10
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To: the invisib1e hand
I agree with you, and I'm getting pretty tired of the myriad of efforts to justify or rationalize the silence. Can you imagine the Pope or Billy Graham calling for an ecumenical council to decide if strapping bombs to your own children to kill someone else's is consistent with Christian theology? Can you imagine any Christian group tolerating a claim that Jesus wanted citizens of the US to send our children strapped with bombs across the Canadian border until they gave us Montreal?

This is insanity. No decent Christian, Jew, or Buddhist would ever silently tolerate it being done in their faith's name.

The Muslim silence is deafening. It isn't my job, an American President's job, or any living non-Muslim's job to defend the peace-loving name of that "religion." I could care less whether it is cowardice or benign agreement that evokes the silence; the silence is the willing surrender of their faith to murderers.

Face it, if Islam is a peaceful religion and most Muslims are decent folk, then the only thing they would need to do in order to let the rest of us know it is actually bother to profess their own faith-- apparently that's too much to ask.
36 posted on 08/21/2006 7:18:32 PM PDT by Ragnorak
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To: madison10

AMERICAN GESTAPO!


37 posted on 08/21/2006 7:20:35 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (ENEMY + MEDIA = ENEMEDIA)
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To: Ooh-Ah
Rush is absolutely right. Again.

From Mark Steyn.

In the words of Hussein Massawi, former leader of Hezbollah: "We are not fighting so that you will offer us something. We are fighting to eliminate you."

38 posted on 08/21/2006 7:24:20 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: Fred Nerks
AMERICAN GESTAPO!

Hmmm...you're correct. We have to fight them off every day in the courts, schools and other public arenas.

Sadly to say, the "American Gestapo" will help their "Islamofascist" friends win in the end.

39 posted on 08/21/2006 7:25:17 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Fred Nerks
Who ENFORCES what you call political correctness?

Fred, That is an excellent question! Purposely, I try to use everything that I can that is non-pc. Unfortunately 'political correctness' in this country is as the designation suggests, it is a way of thinking that is endeared by the politicians who are afraid of speaking their minds because they are afraid of losing the next vote. If we had term limits on all of our offices, political correctness would be a thing of the past........

40 posted on 08/21/2006 7:25:59 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: madison10

Here's some thumbnails of Oz - come on over!

http://www.rogerswebsite.com/australia.htm


41 posted on 08/21/2006 7:27:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (ENEMY + MEDIA = ENEMEDIA)
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To: madison10

Number 1 PC vendors are the Public Schools.

Our Lib teachers are brainwashing our kids to be compliant cry-babies that think fairness is Job One.

Different side of the same coin as the Wahibbi Madrassas Worldwide brainwashing their children to hate the West and revere suicide bombers.

In the Fifties, it was "Better Dead Than Red"

Now it'e "Better Dead Than Rude"

If our schools keep it up long enough, there will be no one left to fight for the West, muchless fight for America and American Exceptionslism.

Clearly Political Correctness is more than annoying, it's a National Security Risk!


42 posted on 08/21/2006 7:28:08 PM PDT by M_Man
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To: the invisib1e hand
But my conclusion is, if the good people who are Muslim cannot find the moral capital in their faith to stand up against the evil people who are Muslim, they must either renounce Islam or become evil themselves.

Look, Islam has lasted 1400 years. That is because they have every situation covered. By "stand up" you must mean kill the "bad" Muslims to protect infidels. It is forbidden:

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "...we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "...the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel."

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.
43 posted on 08/21/2006 7:30:21 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Pyro7480

I LOVE THAT LINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


44 posted on 08/21/2006 7:30:50 PM PDT by true_blue_texican
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To: the invisib1e hand
Muslims who understand themselves and believe their faith to be moral want, nonetheless, to have everything be Islamic (read "good"), so this period of "upheaval" can be mercifully short.

It's as if we American were plagued by mutant, virus-carrying tribbles that threatened our existence. Ridding the landscape of mutant, virus-carrying tribbles would doubtless be a messy killing activity, but hey, to be finally rid of those pesky things, we'd probably let our youthful, otherwise less productive males do the dirty work. If we opposed this activity, or callously refused to support the victims of the tribbles, or youth who were helping to rid the community in that fashion, we'd be certain to be ostracized from the community, and ultimately could expect to be treated like the mutant, virus-carrying tribbles, that is, killed. And thus, we'd snatch defeat from the jaws of victory where our side is certain to win.

HF

45 posted on 08/21/2006 7:32:24 PM PDT by holden (holden on'a'na truth, de whole truth, 'n nuttin' but de truth)
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To: 10mm

Killing all of your enemies is the only way to lasting peace.

Islam teaches these people to either convert us, rule us, or kill us.

I am not big on being converted. I am not big on being under a Caliphate. And I'm kind of fond of this life thing.

For myself, for family, for those I love.


46 posted on 08/21/2006 7:32:50 PM PDT by Ueriah
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To: M_Man
In the Fifties, it was "Better Dead Than Red"

I've always subscribed to "Kill a commie, For mommy!"
47 posted on 08/21/2006 7:34:57 PM PDT by true_blue_texican
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To: Ooh-Ah

"RUSH: You know, the Muslims began a crusade years and years and years ago, and the Catholic Church didn't do anything about it for a hundred years."

Look it up Rush, the Muslim Crusades marched forward for 465 years until Pope Urban II preached the First Crusade in 1095, the Crusaders finally retook Jerusalem in 1099.

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5024


48 posted on 08/21/2006 7:36:31 PM PDT by M_Man
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To: the invisib1e hand

The Pope of islum is OBL


49 posted on 08/21/2006 7:40:05 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I know some very good people who call themselves Muslim

Well American troops in Iraq have made tons of friends with muslim families , children etc who could care less about any Jihad etc etc so we do have a definite problem with discerning who is what
50 posted on 08/21/2006 7:42:50 PM PDT by uncbob
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