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CA: GOP seems ready to be fooled twice - Schwarzenegger hasn't earned loyalty of conservatives
The Orange County Register ^ | August 27, 2006 | STEVEN GREENHUT

Posted on 08/27/2006 7:34:46 AM PDT by calcowgirl

Those who believe in nothing will fall for anything, as the old saying goes. So it's only fitting that a Republican Party that has ceased to believe in anything has fallen for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Maybe in the early days of his administration, and through the defeat of his reform agenda last November, it was defensible to support him. But no more. Yet many Republican leaders at the state GOP convention in Century City were still atwitter over the Terminator's tired clichés and faux tough talk.

--snip

At Century City, Schwarzenegger blasted the Democrats: "Our friends in the other campaign want to go back to the failed policies of the past – higher taxes, more government spending, more government regulations and less growth."

Compare what the other party does with Schwarzenegger's program of higher debt spending, more government spending and more government regulations and less growth, and it's quite a choice, isn't it?

Of course, the Democrats are always bad. So, of course Republicans will usually rally around their candidate, no matter how far afield his viewpoints might be. But a point is reached where it's not worth it anymore, where victory isn't so sweet because "our" guy isn't in any fundamental way different from "their" guy.

--snip

At the Republican convention, Schwarzenegger refused to be seen with the Republican slate of down-ticket candidates. Tom McClintock, one of the most principled men in modern political life, is running for lieutenant governor against John Garamendi, who during an Editorial Board meeting a couple years ago actually sung the praises of the Cuban health care system! ... The governor is too good to stand with McClintock and Poochigian or some of the other perfectly well-qualified GOP candidates for statewide office? Then Republicans should be too good to stand with him.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: caelection; cagop; calelection; calgov2006; schwarzenegger
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This is a very long editorial -- Greenhut doesn't hold much back.
1 posted on 08/27/2006 7:34:47 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: kellynla; Czar; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; ElkGroveDan; Amerigomag; tubebender; ...

Greenhut ping. A must read.


2 posted on 08/27/2006 7:38:05 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
We don't have much of a choice. We hate having Arnold as our candidate out here, but the alternative to him is so bad, we will be holding our noses and going to the polls to make sure that we get the lesser of two evils. Me? I'm considering a move to Colorado.
3 posted on 08/27/2006 7:56:50 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: calcowgirl

I'm going to have to hold my nose after the Governators stupid comments about people who called illegal aliens an invasion (hint: millions of people in your state without permission IS in invasion, dummy).

Or, how about a campaign to write in Tom McClintock as Gov?


4 posted on 08/27/2006 8:04:43 AM PDT by bordergal (John)
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To: calcowgirl

All I ask of Arnold is that he veto this horrific "Universal
Health Care Bill" the California Legislature is passing!


5 posted on 08/27/2006 8:09:27 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: calcowgirl
Those who believe in nothing will fall for anything, as the old saying goes. So it's only fitting that a Republican Party that has ceased to believe in anything has fallen for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Wow. Well said. Steve has always been one of the sharpest and most observant members of the press in California.

The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a starving man needs a tapeworm.

6 posted on 08/27/2006 8:10:07 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: calcowgirl; FairOpinion
To the principals behind the FairOpinion account:

Does this sound familiar?

Can the CAGOP leadership appreciate the dilemma they've created for themselves, at the top of the ticket, when they surrendered their principles and organization to the Wilsonegger Gang and its liberal, celebrity spokesman?

Did the Wilsonegger Gang think that Republicans would follow quietly or did they just assume that their spokesman had such broad appeal that the conservative members of the CAGOP weren't needed anymore to win statewide election?

Last but not least; to those who labor away in the trenches; to those dedicated souls who work the FairOpinion account:

It this really what you wanted for the CAGOP when you dedicated your energies to the cause?

7 posted on 08/27/2006 8:14:30 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: calcowgirl; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge; Amerigomag
The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a starving man needs a tapeworm.

Hey now that I think of it I like that. I'm going to make it my new tagline.

8 posted on 08/27/2006 8:15:47 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a starving man needs a tapeworm.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Steve has always been one of the sharpest and most observant members of the press in California.

He's usually much more reserved in his comments, though. He really let loose in this one! He might have well said 'the emperor has no clothes.'

Not only does he point that Arnold has totally distanced himself from the other Republican candidates, but he outlines the track record and highlights the absence of ARnold's support for the Eminent Comain proposition. Principles be damned--it's all about power.

9 posted on 08/27/2006 8:16:59 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Hey all. I think down the ballot Republicans like McClintock should receive conservative support. Voting for Schwarzenegger will only encourage other liberal Republicans like him and will allow him to continue to use the GOP for his own personal gain. I would suggest voting for Ed Noonan, the American Independent Party candidate for Governor. Check out his website at www.ednoonan4gov.org


10 posted on 08/27/2006 8:21:46 AM PDT by Brian Sears (Time flies like an arrow, and fruit flies like a bannana)
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To: calcowgirl

The only thing he left out was the refusal to endorse Mountjoy. As I asked an LA Times reporter, someone please point out one thing that this "extremist" Dick Mountjoy has said or espoused that is NOT contained in the official California Republican Party Platform.


11 posted on 08/27/2006 8:29:18 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a starving man needs a tapeworm.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
...someone please point out one thing that this "extremist" Dick Mountjoy has said or espoused that is NOT contained in the official California Republican Party Platform.

There isn't anything. Has the CA GOP even endorsed him?

Mountjoy For Senate

12 posted on 08/27/2006 8:32:55 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Pukin Dog
"...We hate having Arnold as our candidate out here, but the alternative to him is so bad, we will be holding our noses and going to the polls to make sure that we get the lesser of two evils. Me? I'm considering a move to Colorado..."

Dog, I'd invite you to Ohio, but we seem to be following the same path as California. We had primaries here, where we could have dumped Mike DeWine and replaced him with an actual conservative. Imagine our shock when 77% of Republican voters pulled the lever to support his re-election bid. That is a lot of Republicans committing random acts of blindness.

It is enough to shake your faith that people have any long-term memory capacity at all. Forgive my saying so, but it may take even more damage to the country before we collectively decide that "Free Stuff" isn't worth the price.

13 posted on 08/27/2006 8:34:34 AM PDT by pickrell (Old dog, new trick...sort of)
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To: Brian Sears
I would suggest voting for

I encourage each voter to find a registered, gubernatorial candidate that most nearly represents their values.

A protest vote cast for governor, whether Reagan, McClintock, Mickey Mouse or not voting the top of the ballot, is wasted energy. Your franchise is too precious to waste and the CAGOP isn't listening.

Select your choice for governor and then go to the polls, mark the ballot or write in the candidate's name.

14 posted on 08/27/2006 8:36:14 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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I don't want to have to keep posting it, but people still don't seem to get it. It's Arnold and Angelides.


The Dems are COUNTING on the conservatives to win -- it's part of their win strategy.

Anyone who is still advocating the defeat of Arnold, urging conservatives to not cast a vote for Governor or vote third party, which means victory for leftist socialist Angelides is NO CONSERVATIVE. PERIOD.

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A Recipe for Success (for Angelides) (Conservatives are Angelides' secret weapon)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1689690/posts

Here are some things he could do:

o Attack Arnold from the right :

§ Illegal immigration–Arnold has angered the conservative base with some of his comments on this issue. The Angelides campaign, or perhaps an anti-Arnold independent expenditure campaign, could attack Arnold in the mail or on the radio and use Arnold’s own words against him.

§ Taxes/government spending–The state government continues to run what is essentially a deficit and Arnold’s numerous proposals to increase government spending and borrowing turn off Republicans. This line of attack could also mitigate some of the tax attacks against Angelides.


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Schwarzenegger Hears Rumbles From the Right

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1685932/posts


" low conservative turnout will loom as a key peril for the governor and a prime source of hope for Democrats."


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"Angelides ... must win 80% of the Dems and a solid majority of the DTS (declined to state) registrants, TO ACCOMPANY THE 15% REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T VOTE FOR THEIR PARTY'S TICKET"

ANGELIDES IS COUNTING ON THEM.


http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2006/07/new_poll_result.html


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Angelides team bullish on California's blue state math (counting on CONSERVATIVES, to win)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1676818/posts

Angelides' camp believes that while the governor enjoys support among some Democrats now, by the time ballots are cast in November, the base will remain loyal.

They also believe that the opposite will occur with the Republicans because Schwarzenegger's recent move to the left on key issues such as immigration and the environment has alienated conservatives.



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To pull off a win, Angelides must seize his opportunities

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1683377/posts


"But it will not be easy, and Angelides must take full advantage of the opportunities: ... the governor's sometimes tense relationship with conservatives; "

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15 posted on 08/27/2006 8:38:38 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: All

Here is what McClintock has to say:

"Like many of us, I too have disagreements with some of the Governor's proposals. These differences, however, do not justify the abandonment of our party's responsibility to work tirelessly to reelect this Republican governor and to elect our GOP candidates to statewide and legislative offices.

For this reason, I view any effort to attack Governor Schwarzenegger as an attack on my own candidacy and those of every Republican seeking partisan office in 2006."


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1568122/posts?page=51#51


16 posted on 08/27/2006 8:40:50 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Amerigomag

In other words, you are pushing Angelides' strategy agenda, trying to get conservatives to not cast a vote for Arnold.

See my post 16.


17 posted on 08/27/2006 8:43:31 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: All

The author goes on and on about how Arnold "didn't earn the votes of conservatives".

Let me ask you, and did ANGELIDES earn the votes of conservatives?

Any conservative not voting for Arnold IS VOTING FOR ANGELIDES. That is actually part of Anglides' win strategy -- see my post 16 on this thread.

Voters better make a choice: Arnold or Angelides and ask themselves if they want to bear responsibility for Gov. ANgelides, who will raise taxes, wants income redistribution, wants to sign a bill for universal healthcare (socialized medicine) funded by your tax dollars, will sign a bill for drivers licenses for illegals, and homosexual marriage bill.

Arnold has vetoed bills the Legislature passed pushing the above, and said he will veto others.

NOBODY has the right to call themselves a conservative, if they help socialist Angelides elected. If you stay home, don't vote for the governor slot, or vote third party YOU ARE HELPING ANGELIDES WIN.


18 posted on 08/27/2006 8:49:13 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Pukin Dog
We don't have much of a choice.

Why not?
19 posted on 08/27/2006 8:57:03 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: calcowgirl
Has the CA GOP even endorsed him?

ipso facto, he's the nominee

20 posted on 08/27/2006 8:58:34 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a starving man needs a tapeworm.)
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