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Obesity? This is a job for Supernanny(neo soviet barf alert)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2088-2330255,00.html ^ | 8 27 06 | Minette Marrin

Posted on 08/28/2006 11:20:06 AM PDT by freepatriot32

Fat is not a feminist issue, as Susie Orbach once claimed. Fat is a class issue. Rich, educated people are not fat; you see almost no children in private schools who are overweight. Fatness and obesity are directly related to lower education and lower incomes. What is sad is that at a time when this country is richer than ever and ought to have better schools than ever, we have far more fat people than ever — a dangerous explosion of flab. Last week the Department of Health issued a report grimly called Forecasting Obesity to 2010 and its findings were grotesque. Within four years, it predicts, a third of all adults — 13m people — will be obese. So will 1m children

Obese means not just podgy, but dangerously, disablingly, distastefully fat, as in American fat.

This is not just shocking; it has also happened shockingly fast. As the report says, a third of all men will be obese by 2010; in 1993 the figure was only — if one can say only of such a large figure — 13%, rising to 24% in 2004.

The same is true of women, although the rate is rising more slowly; 16% were obese in 1993, 24% in 2004, and the trend is expected to rise until 2010. The proportion of boys who were obese stood at 17% in 2003 and is predicted to rise to 19% by 2010, while among girls it is expected to increase more swiftly from 16% to 22%.

This presents an awkward challenge to libertarians. The libertarian assumption is that we should all be free to do what we want, as far as possible, and if some people’s lifestyle choices involve snacking on deep-fried Mars bars and triple-processed cheeseburgers, other people have no business interfering, still less the government.

Besides, there is the embarrassing fact that those who eat and drink junk do so for cheap comfort and because they are either too poor or too ignorant (or both) to prepare healthy food. It doesn’t come well from the consumers of steamed organic asparagus and free-range ducks’ breasts to criticise those who can manage only frozen reconstituted chicken nuggets and sugary baked beans.

However, obesity does not concern only the obese. It concerns all of us. Obese parents produce obese children, and obesity places a crippling burden on the National Health Service, quite apart from the many personal miseries involved. Currently 10% of NHS resources are spent on diabetes (two-thirds of which is the avoidable type 2 associated with obesity) and this could easily double within the next four years to 20%.

This is quite apart from the increased risk among the obese of heart disease and other serious illness. More young people are being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, something previously seen only in people over 40. In these circumstances even the most swivel-eyed libertarian would probably agree, for once, that something must be done and even perhaps by the government.

Curiously enough, however, in one of the few areas where our ever-intrusive government might for once justifiably intrude, new Labour does almost nothing. Possibly as a result of the ferocious lobbying of the food industry, ministers restrict themselves to making repetitive noises about healthy living and “small changes” that won’t cost anybody anything.

Tony Blair said last month that if the food industry did not agree to limit junk food advertisements by 2007 he would bring in mandatory rules, but he has said that before and more than once. Besides, why not bring them in straight away? His government has persistently ignored the demands of the Commons health select committee for a traffic light system of food labelling, enabling shoppers to make informed choices.

England’s chief medical officer warned in this year’s annual report that public health budgets were being raided to deal with deficits. That is the reality behind government talk of raising public awareness.

I have never been convinced that government health education has any effect. Despite the “five-a-day” campaign, only a quarter of people in England eat vegetables every day. About half of overweight men are in denial; they don’t see themselves as overweight, according to the report.

There is nothing complicated about being thin. Being fat is usually the result of eating too much junk food and taking too little exercise. Being thin means eating much less food, avoiding junk food altogether and taking exercise every day. It may be that nothing can be done about the plague of obesity; there is a growing epidemic in Europe and worldwide. Perhaps affluence is a disease to which only the fortunate few are immune. But if anything could be done about it, it would have to be radical.

Nobody who craves cheap comfort food will willingly give it up. But if over-processed, over-refined food and junk food were to become expensive while healthy fresh food became cheap — the opposite of the case today — people would be forced to eat well. This could be done through taxes or subsidies. Alternatively, you could ration unhealthy food.

There could be a public campaign against fattening food, just as there was against smoking, aimed at making everyone ashamed of consuming anything naughty but nice. I am just as greedy as anyone else but I have come to think of cakes, biscuits, crisps, sweets, white bread and puddings as more or less toxic. Foods like this should have health warnings — “cake can kill”. They are not just unnecessary, empty calories; they interfere with your blood sugar levels, affect your appetite and your mood; they may even induce food addiction. The same applies to alcohol: more than a modest amount makes you fat, interferes with your mood and is often addictive.

Just as there would need to be financial incentives to eat well, there should also be inducements to take exercise. The cost should be subsidised or declarable against tax. Employers should be required to give workers time off to go to the gym or jog. We could imitate the Japanese and have mass group exercises at work every day.

And that is the problem. Obesity, one of the trials of affluence, can be solved only, if at all, by the kind of interventionism that has been discredited by the failure of socialism. Liberty is indivisible; it belongs to the ignorant and the low paid just as much as to anyone else. Perhaps obesity is one of the many prices of liberty. Fat is a freedom issue.


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To: maryz

Thank you, very much.

I don't have any stone crocks, but I do have a bunch of 3 gallon glass jars that I normally use for things like flour and rice. They should work.

I put onion and caraway into the sauerkraut when I'm cooking it.........especially when I'm doing it in the crockpot.


201 posted on 08/28/2006 4:25:00 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: freepatriot32
"Fatness and obesity are directly related to lower education and lower incomes."

It's not ignorance or too little income. They are too lazy to cook with basic, less expensive food ingredients and too lazy to exercise.
202 posted on 08/28/2006 4:26:17 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: wouldntbprudent

About six months ago, when I was doing low-carb, one evening when Xena's Guy was out of town I was foraging for dinner and ran across my abundant cheese drawer. (I buy cheese like regular women buy shoes.)

So I took out every cheese I had, cut off a little from each, arranged it on a plate lightest to fullest, and had me a Cheese Tray Dinner! It was SOOOOO GOOD.


203 posted on 08/28/2006 4:26:19 PM PDT by Xenalyte
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To: Gabz

Good luck! :)


204 posted on 08/28/2006 4:27:54 PM PDT by maryz
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To: wouldntbprudent
You forgot gahhh-lic . . .

I never forget that........I just tend to forget that other folks do not consider it a neccessity and so rarely mention it.

I actually make a garlic jelly - it is to die for with a roast....any kind of roast.

205 posted on 08/28/2006 4:30:24 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: wouldntbprudent
What a wonderful gift you gave your friend!

Thank you. She's a wonderful friend who would do anything in the world for me, so I like returning the favor.

My one food splurge that has gotten out of hand is snacks

Mine is Kraft Easy Mac - the microwaveable mac and cheese...........8 year olds love mac and cheese and 8yos can use the microwave.

But I understand what you are saying. Once school starts next week I'll be able to go back to having lots of homemade snacks on hand for after school. My friend and I share the car-pooling. I take her daughter and mine to school, and she picks them up in the afternoon.

206 posted on 08/28/2006 4:42:22 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Xenalyte; wouldntbprudent
The one appliance I will insist on when we have the room is an extra freezer.

My freezer is actually bigger than my refridgerator/freezer....it's a 25cubic foot upright and the one in the kitchen is only 19cf.

Right now it desperately needs to be defrosted........

207 posted on 08/28/2006 4:49:48 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: freepatriot32
 

 

I've got to give the author credit:  the second sentence is one of the stupidest sentences I've ever read.

Bar none.

208 posted on 08/28/2006 4:50:46 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: maryz; leda
Oh, I forgot to mention - bunch of idiot kids opened a conex (shipping container) of dried peas last year. After the cops recued then from the torrent of peas, the judge sentenced them to pay for damages. It was about $80.

Think about that - an entire semi trailer full of dried peas, $80.

Thank G_D we have these problems.

209 posted on 08/28/2006 5:01:57 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Sounds great! Using up combined leftovers in a well-presented meal is an art. Ever watch that cooking channel show where the chef shows up at someone's house and, using only what happens to be in the fridge/cupboard, cooks up a gourmet dinner?


210 posted on 08/28/2006 5:20:30 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Gabz
"I've onions to chop and chicken livers to fry up..."

LOL! Now that's an important job, not to be entrusted to just anybody. I like it with steamed collards, drenched in garlic butter with plenty of sauteed mushrooms.

And next time you fry chicken, you be sure to soak the pieces in buttermilk for a whole day in fridge before rolling in flour and spices and frying it up in pork fat! (Forgive me if you already know this). A big black iron skillet is essential (shame on you if you don't have one!) :-)

211 posted on 08/28/2006 5:33:50 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: wouldntbprudent

I did it because I had started a stew and THOUGHT I had the tomato juice to go in it-I didn't . I didn't want to go to the store,; the V-8 was there-and history was made (or at least I had a new recipe that we all loved so much, we've only used v-8 since.)


212 posted on 08/28/2006 5:39:50 PM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: freepatriot32
they are either too poor or too ignorant (or both) to prepare healthy food

Maybe too lazy?

213 posted on 08/28/2006 5:40:29 PM PDT by beckysueb (KOmmies are really nothing but DUmmies with better PR.)
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To: Froufrou
There are already employers who refuse to hire the overweight and/or smokers.

Most people who quit smoking put on alot of weight so what then. Either insure a skinny smoker or a fat nonsmoker. What a delimma.

214 posted on 08/28/2006 5:45:11 PM PDT by beckysueb (KOmmies are really nothing but DUmmies with better PR.)
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To: Bonaparte
A big black iron skillet is essential (shame on you if you don't have one!) :-)

I have never mastered the art of frying chicken in a skillet....but one of these days I will......and I probably own more cast iron pots and pans than Carter has liver pills....

But I shouldn't have used the term "fry up" about the chicken livers....I was only sauteing them...I made chicken liver stroganoff.

215 posted on 08/28/2006 5:53:37 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Verloona Ti
What have other freepers noticed in your towns/cities?

I live in a small Tennessee town, around 25,000. We've got lots of fat people here.

216 posted on 08/28/2006 6:07:56 PM PDT by beckysueb (KOmmies are really nothing but DUmmies with better PR.)
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To: RipSawyer

I have very good friends in Charleston who make clam chowder with cream, potatoes and lots of butter (along with the clams and onions of course) and then fry fatback IN LARD to sprinkle on the top. Then they serve it with cornbread and fried kale (which I don't eat).

Wow, what a meal !


217 posted on 08/28/2006 6:15:49 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Bonaparte

Square Foot Gardening - I highly recommend that book as well.


218 posted on 08/28/2006 6:18:08 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Gabz

You can freeze potatoes if you wash and chop/slice them. They can get a bit mealy when frozen uncooked so I don't usually freeze mine - I keep a root cellar and put them in bins.


219 posted on 08/28/2006 6:20:00 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Overtaxed

Air gun - fun target practice.

I had lots of rabbits this year but for some reason they didn't bother the garden. The squirrels can't seem to make it across the yard from the trees - I guess they feel too exposed that far away from the trees.


220 posted on 08/28/2006 6:22:38 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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