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CIA used 'micro nuclear' bomb in Bali: Bashir
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | August 29, 2006 | AAP

Posted on 08/29/2006 1:56:50 PM PDT by aculeus

Indonesian Muslim cleric Abu Bakar Bashir claims America's top spy agency was involved in the devastating 2002 Bali bombings.

Bashir, who was convicted and imprisoned for having prior knowledge of the attacks which killed 202 people, including 88 Australians, is also appealing for the lives of three convicted bombers to be spared.

Bashir, the spiritual leader of Jemaah Islamiah (JI), was released from prison in June after serving nearly two years.

Amrozi, Ali Ghufron - also known as Mukhlas - and Imam Samudra are awaiting execution for their part in the plot.

In an interview tonight on ABC television's Foreign Correspondent, Bashir claims the device that killed most people in the Bali attack was a Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) "micro-nuclear" bomb.

"The micro-nuclear bomb that did so much damage was a CIA bomb, not Amrozi's bomb," Bashir told the ABC.

"The Bali bombing was actually masterminded by America. Well, not masterminded, but hijacked. They planned it, but their plan was hijacked by America."

"So the bomb that killed so many Australians, it was an American bomb. It wasn't the bomb made by Amrozi and his friends."

Bashir defended the Bali bombers, but conceded their actions may have been "misguided".

"Actually, they (the bombers) are not terrorists. America is the terrorist. They are not terrorists. They followed the path of jihad to defend Islam and Muslims. Perhaps their actions were misguided," Bashir said.

"Secondly, it was unfair of the court to sentence them to death because their bomb would not have killed people, only injured them. It was a CIA bomb that killed people."

Bashir also attacked the Australian government, saying it wrongly continued to hound him and treat him as an enemy.

He said Indonesia had placed no travel restrictions on him and he was free to go where he wanted.

"It's the Australian government that makes every effort to ensure I continue to be hounded. So in Indonesia there are no restrictions on me travelling overseas. I'm allowed to go anywhere I want to.

"But it would be impossible to go to Australia because if I went there I would be arrested and slandered by the Australian government. The Australian government still treats me like an enemy for reasons that are unclear. "

AAP


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2002; bakarbashir; bali; balibombings; bashir; cia; conspiracytheory; globlajihad; islamoganda; jihad; jihadpropaganda; propaganda; tinfoil; tinfoilturban; whiskeytangofoxtrot; wtf
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Bashir ... convicted and imprisoned for having prior knowledge of the attacks which killed 202 people. Photo: Jason South

1 posted on 08/29/2006 1:56:51 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Why does the media publicize the ramblings of madmen?


2 posted on 08/29/2006 1:57:37 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: aculeus

Are we sure he's not a Democrat?


3 posted on 08/29/2006 1:57:46 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I've had it with these &%#@* jihadis on these &%#@* planes!)
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To: aculeus

Guess Bashir doesn't realize that there's no way in hell CIA was competent enough to carry that out, especially not that soon after 9/11.


4 posted on 08/29/2006 1:58:18 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: aculeus

Scuse me while I go plant this story in a liberal nutgarden.


5 posted on 08/29/2006 2:00:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: aculeus

Don't forget the Tsunamis, Earthquakes and Volcanic eruptions that they sent your way, too.


6 posted on 08/29/2006 2:00:47 PM PDT by jw777
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To: SlowBoat407

Any Physics student can tell you what critical mass is.....and it isn't "Micro".....

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

I think I will look the editor of this up and send an email


7 posted on 08/29/2006 2:01:41 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: aculeus
a Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) "micro-nuclear" bomb. I have one of those.

It's either that or my old Walkman. I haven't used either in a long time so sometimes I get them confused.

8 posted on 08/29/2006 2:01:53 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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No such thing as a 'micro-nuclear' bomb.

It's called a 'mini-nuclear' bomb. sheesh.
9 posted on 08/29/2006 2:02:26 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: aculeus

We actually used an anti-matter weapon developed in Los Alamos for Karl Rove.

Same thing used on the levy in N.O.

Ironically, the same break throughs that let us aim hurricanes allows mass production (pun intended) of anti-matter.


10 posted on 08/29/2006 2:02:28 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: aculeus
In an interview tonight on ABC television's Foreign Correspondent, Bashir claims the device that killed most people in the Bali attack was a Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) "micro-nuclear" bomb.

Ninety percent of muslims will believe this.Half of Western and Central Europe will believe it.Half of this nation's democRATS will believe it.The democRAT Party Presidential nominee in '08 will accept it as gospel.

11 posted on 08/29/2006 2:02:52 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: aculeus
And a nuclear bomb that didn't produce any radiation. They must be geniuses.
12 posted on 08/29/2006 2:03:08 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Halgr

Actually, a temporary critical mass can be made by implosion. Ask the former residents of Nagasaki (maybe Hiroshima).


13 posted on 08/29/2006 2:03:47 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: aculeus

Here's my micro nuke.

14 posted on 08/29/2006 2:03:51 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: aculeus

You don't think he's lying do you? /scarcasm


15 posted on 08/29/2006 2:04:14 PM PDT by jackieaxe (Democrats are mired in a culture of screwing English speaking, taxpaying, law abiding citizens!)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Anti-Matter, I tell you.


16 posted on 08/29/2006 2:04:16 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: aculeus

Inspector Clueso: "It was a Bim".


17 posted on 08/29/2006 2:04:16 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: aculeus

Does this @$$hole have even two functioning neurons?


18 posted on 08/29/2006 2:04:56 PM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: SlowBoat407

You mean dhimmicrat ?


19 posted on 08/29/2006 2:05:04 PM PDT by RC51
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To: hellinahandcart; All
Bashir will soon be lecturing at University of New Hampshire.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691847/posts

20 posted on 08/29/2006 2:05:27 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Someone needs to Photoshop a tinfoil turban on this guys head.


21 posted on 08/29/2006 2:06:11 PM PDT by 6ppc (Call Photo Reuters, that's the name, and away goes truth right down the drain. Photo Reuters!)
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To: aculeus
Excuse me Mr. Bashir, you left your book behind:


22 posted on 08/29/2006 2:06:35 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a starving man needs a tapeworm.)
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To: Spktyr
Guess Bashir doesn't realize that there's no way in hell CIA was competent enough to carry that out, especially not that soon after 9/11.

Valerie Plame pulled off the job.

23 posted on 08/29/2006 2:06:37 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: aculeus

Of course we did, that's why we had to use conventional explosives on the levees in New Orleans.


24 posted on 08/29/2006 2:06:39 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Where did I leave my matches?)
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To: jw777

And remember, no hurricanes have ever hit Crawford, TX (Rush parody on Louie Farakan)


25 posted on 08/29/2006 2:07:14 PM PDT by unkus
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To: aculeus
CIA used 'micro nuclear' bomb in Bali: Bashir

Only as a prelude to our "Micro-Storm Troopers" and their little guns and tanks. They are so cute!!! /Barking at the moon

26 posted on 08/29/2006 2:07:49 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: aculeus

For every Jack, there's a Jill.


27 posted on 08/29/2006 2:08:08 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: aculeus

Can't wait for Michael Moore to expose this!!!


28 posted on 08/29/2006 2:08:09 PM PDT by Vasilli22 (http://www.richardfest.blogspot.com/)
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To: aculeus

Anyone else hardening in their opinion that pretty much anything that flies out of a muslim's piehole is just so much fertilizer?


29 posted on 08/29/2006 2:08:37 PM PDT by AngryJawa ({NRA}{IDPA})
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To: aculeus

It amazes me when people who are barely living in modern conditions have so much knowledge about nukes and espionage.


30 posted on 08/29/2006 2:08:56 PM PDT by edpc (Violence is ALWAYS a solution. Maybe not the right one....but a solution nonetheless)
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To: Gay State Conservative

"Ninety percent of muslims will believe this.Half of Western and Central Europe will " etc..
BINGO!!!!!


31 posted on 08/29/2006 2:09:14 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: aculeus
The Australian government still treats me like an enemy for reasons that are unclear.

Captain Clueless.

32 posted on 08/29/2006 2:09:15 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: aculeus

This guy needs an enema with a micro-nuclear bomb in it placed directly up his camel poop chute.


33 posted on 08/29/2006 2:09:56 PM PDT by shankbear
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To: MeanWestTexan

Actually I am curious about just how small a nuke can be made. Not planning on building any nuclear bottle rockets or anything, just ponderin.


34 posted on 08/29/2006 2:10:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: MeanWestTexan
We actually used an anti-matter weapon developed in Los Alamos for Karl Rove.

That isn't common knowledge. They had to wait to release it until they'd developed a counter-weapon, the anti-anti-matter-matter bomb. Rove is a genius.

35 posted on 08/29/2006 2:11:39 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Caipirabob

He needs to quit watching Toy Story so much.Any one who has any knowledge about bombs,knows any kind of Nuc.device would have levelled the place.And then some.


36 posted on 08/29/2006 2:11:48 PM PDT by xarmydog
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To: aculeus


It's clear, looking at the bandage on his head, that a botched lobotomy is likely to blame for this lunatic's insane ramblings.
37 posted on 08/29/2006 2:12:02 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (What Darwin denied he now regrets)
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To: aculeus

That sneaky Karl Rove sure gets around!


38 posted on 08/29/2006 2:13:12 PM PDT by Gritty (If this is a ‘long war’ it needs rhetoric that can go the distance. Today it fails that test-M Steyn)
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To: Caipirabob
>>CIA used 'micro nuclear' bomb in Bali: Bashir

>Only as a prelude to our "Micro-Storm Troopers" and their little guns and tanks.

Back off!


39 posted on 08/29/2006 2:14:00 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: cripplecreek

The general consensus is that the smallest possible nuclear weapon is going to be about the size of one of a large knapsack (down from the Soviet-era suitcase sized atomic demolition munition).

The problem is that the smallest *yield* is still going to be in the kiloton-plus range and is *really* obvious. As in "takes out several city blocks" obvious.


40 posted on 08/29/2006 2:15:17 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: cripplecreek

> Actually I am curious about just how small a nuke can be made.

About the smallest that has been demosntrated is on the order of 50 to 100 *tons* (not kilotons), with the Davy Crockett nuclear mortar round. However, these things were filthy as hell, and the yield is unreliable. Basically they are full-up bombs that are designed to not work very well.


41 posted on 08/29/2006 2:16:01 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

I dont't think that's a bandage on his head. It's half of my wife's DD Bra.


42 posted on 08/29/2006 2:16:46 PM PDT by Lekker 1 (("Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau" - I. Fisher, Yale Econ Prof, 1929))
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To: aculeus

Could have been worse....could have been this.

43 posted on 08/29/2006 2:17:28 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Brilliant
Why does the media publicize the ramblings of madmen?

What do Ray Nagin, Jimmy Carter, Hugo Chavez, Bin Laden and John Mark Karr have in common?

44 posted on 08/29/2006 2:18:52 PM PDT by alrea
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To: aculeus

Just think what he might say IF he had a living brain.


45 posted on 08/29/2006 2:21:42 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Spktyr
152 mm nuclear artillery shell (USSR).

46 posted on 08/29/2006 2:21:58 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: BulletBobCo

That's no micro-nuke, that's MINOR SCALE!

It did blow up real good, though. Just like MISTY PICTURE.


47 posted on 08/29/2006 2:23:09 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: alrea

The Bomb was actually delivered by the p[lane that didnt fly into the Pentagon. The CIA had been hiding it and all the passengers for years out at section 51.


48 posted on 08/29/2006 2:23:44 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: aculeus

This idiot obviously knows nothing about nuclear physics.


49 posted on 08/29/2006 2:24:16 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (Why isn't anyone talking about the kidnapped soldiers anymore?)
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To: cripplecreek

Look up Davey Crockett. I think that was a W54.


50 posted on 08/29/2006 2:24:28 PM PDT by DBrow
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