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Webb put to test with Vietnam case
The Washington Times ^ | 04 Sep 06 | Seth McLaughlin

Posted on 09/04/2006 3:52:55 AM PDT by leadpenny

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1 posted on 09/04/2006 3:52:56 AM PDT by leadpenny
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"..whereby a woman or child would take up arms against our forces..." - Webb


Mr. Webb is running as a Democrat. How surprising with this particular view of things. I suppose it would follow then, this nations policies (and Israel's, of co;urse) have resulted in the terrorists using women and children as human shields and some of those women and children strapping on explosives to kill other women and children.

Is this sort of thinking a mental condition, passed on from parent to child? Is ignorance contagious? Can these people not see the enemy and the total ruthlessness of that enemy?

When those guardians of freedom, the independent media, reinforce such ideas, it is not really surpising that some people are still out to lunch, their entire waking day.


2 posted on 09/04/2006 4:23:09 AM PDT by David Isaac
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Jack Murtha needs to read this...


3 posted on 09/04/2006 4:31:49 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: David Isaac

Unfortunately, this or anything else won't be the topic on any news program between now and Nov 7. It will be "Macaca" 24/7.


4 posted on 09/04/2006 5:05:16 AM PDT by leadpenny
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Why does thjis article use "MR." so often when it refers to this politician (not to the otheres) and to the Marine convicted of murder?

Just wondering ... is it the "plantation mentality" so often refered to by democrats & Hillary? Mr is derived from "master" after all.


5 posted on 09/04/2006 5:17:01 AM PDT by TimesDomain (When a judge declares himself "MASTER", you become his "SLAVE")
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To: leadpenny

http://www.law.duke.edu/lens/publications/050698.html

A more revealing article (leans liberal) on the events with the murder charges.

NOT written by this democrat politician who all he did was to write an article that accomplished nothing but made him feel better.


6 posted on 09/04/2006 5:23:20 AM PDT by TimesDomain (When a judge declares himself "MASTER", you become his "SLAVE")
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He does have a valid heroic USMC history:
http://www.jameswebb.com/about.htm

James Webb grew up on the move, attending more than a dozen different schools across the U.S. and in England. He graduated from high school in Bellevue, Nebraska. First attending the University of Southern California on an NROTC academic scholarship, he left for the Naval Academy after one year. At the Naval Academy he was a four-year member of the Brigade Honor Committee, a varsity boxer, and was one of six finalists in the interviewing process for Brigade Commander during his senior year.

Graduating in l968 he chose a commission in the Marine Corps, and was one of 18 in his class of 841 to receive the Superintendent's Commendation for outstanding leadership contributions while a midshipman.

First in his class of 243 at the Marine Corps Officer's Basic School in Quantico, Virginia, he then served with the Fifth Marine Regiment in Vietnam, where as a rifle platoon and company commander in the infamous An Hoa Basin west of Danang he was awarded the Navy Cross, the Silver Star Medal, two Bronze Star Medals, and two Purple Hearts. He later served as a platoon commander and as an instructor in tactics and weapons at Marine Corps Officer Candidates School, and then as a member of the Secretary of the Navy's immediate staff, before leaving the Marine Corps in l972.


7 posted on 09/04/2006 5:38:04 AM PDT by TimesDomain (When a judge declares himself "MASTER", you become his "SLAVE")
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I'm assuming you were in I Corps. Do you know where "Son Thang 4 . . . hamlet" is in relation to Danang or any other major city?

I was in I Corps with the Army from Nov 69 to Nov 70 on my 2nd tour. The incident involving Green would have happened when I was based out of Hue, Phu Bai. In April, I believe, we moved to Marble Mountain when the Army took over control of I Corps from the III MAF. Have to admit I didn't know anything about it then or when the Courts-Martial took place.


8 posted on 09/04/2006 6:05:37 AM PDT by leadpenny
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I'm lazy this morning - here's maps that may cover where that ville was...

A Company Called MIKE

HIEP DUC
7th Marines Operational Areas
Sheet 6640 III Series L7014 Scale 1:50,000
All links open in a new window
These are large jpg files

Northwest Section Antenna Valley
Middle western Section Western Que Son Mts
Southwest Section Hiep Duc
Northeastern Section FSB / LZ Ross
Middle eastern Section Nui Loc Son - Death Valley
Southeastern Section Song Chang Valley

9 posted on 09/04/2006 6:21:13 AM PDT by TimesDomain (When a judge declares himself "MASTER", you become his "SLAVE")
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wow time has changed this man, now a member of the DNC, and yes i do ? there patriotism


10 posted on 09/04/2006 7:00:32 AM PDT by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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"It is now generally recognized that our country's overall policy failures created a situation whereby a woman or child would take up arms against our forces in the very land we purported to be aiding,"

The man was certainly a good Marine but that does not make his political analysis of the US involvement in Viet Nam valid.

You have to note that he blame the US policy for the North Viet Namese viciousness and use of women and children in combat.

He totally avoids mention of Communist North Viet Nam’s force conscription at the point of a gun of women, children, old and young the murder of uncooperative village leaders, the theft of crops from substance farmers.

No to this man US policy is at fault for women and children carrying arms in Viet Nam.

11 posted on 09/04/2006 7:27:40 AM PDT by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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Thanks, I'm still on dial-up, so it took a while. Still having trouble orienting myself. Where is HIEP DUC in I Corps?


12 posted on 09/04/2006 7:32:45 AM PDT by leadpenny
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I'm basically through fighting the Vietnam War but I'll say this; the 58,000+ names on the Wall belong to LBJ's legacy. May he not rest in peace.


13 posted on 09/04/2006 7:36:41 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: italianquaker

I'm not sure who I'll be voting for in November but the last thing I would ever do is question the patriotism of a man who earned the awards Webb did. Do you question his patriotism because he's a democrat?


14 posted on 09/04/2006 7:39:58 AM PDT by leadpenny
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the 58,000+ names on the Wall belong to LBJ's legacy

NO doubt LBJ mismicro-managed the war and that led to unnecessary US deaths and the ultimate loss of the war, but I am really tired of the Blame America crowd getting free and unfettered press for their views.

15 posted on 09/04/2006 7:50:39 AM PDT by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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Sorry I forgot the warning "HUGE files" on those maps - they are detailed.

Hiep Duc - well - trying to search fading memories - about 30+ miles SE - SSE

Google Hiep Duc - I just found a good article about the first battle I was involved in - my first day in the field - We were sent in to help the Army - I think that's where we got the nickname "Med-Evac Mike" I was one of 21 (out of an entire company) that walked out of that valley.

http://www.hodierne.com/sandssplash.htm

The article is honest but should NOT have been written as it was in the Stars & Stripes.


16 posted on 09/04/2006 7:52:52 AM PDT by TimesDomain (When a judge declares himself "MASTER", you become his "SLAVE")
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Unfortunately yes they have become the party of sedition and possibly treason there actions during wartime is disgusting, so yes i do ? there patriotism too include skerry


17 posted on 09/04/2006 8:02:24 AM PDT by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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To: TimesDomain

Thirty miles sse of, I assume, Danang. That battle would have happened before my 2nd tour. The article mentions the Americal Division (23rd ID). They were, of course, in the south of I Corps. I was flying for the 24th Army Corps HQ - the Corps Artillery CG, to be exact. Even after the hand off from III MAF to the 24th Corps, I can remember once or twice when I carried the general to the south of Danang and Marble Mountain. He always concentrated on the area north of Hue to the DMZ, and especially out near Khe Sanh where the North was hacking out more trails into the South. Arc Lights, air strikes, 175 and 155mm Howitzers couldn't stop them. Gotta respect them for that.


18 posted on 09/04/2006 8:14:10 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: italianquaker

Who said anything about Kerry?


19 posted on 09/04/2006 8:16:04 AM PDT by leadpenny
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I did lets never forget what a fraud he is too


20 posted on 09/04/2006 8:16:57 AM PDT by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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