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Democrats push for own religious voice
AP on Yahoo ^ | 9/4/06 | Jim Kuhnhenn - ap

Posted on 09/04/2006 9:19:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - David Wilhelm once drew hisses when he suggested that Christians could be Republicans or Democrats.

Years later, Wilhelm is spreading that message again, and he's hoping for a better response this time.

With a leading poll showing only one in four Americans viewing the Democratic Party as friendly to religion, Wilhelm and a broad-based group of Christian Democratic activists are starting an Internet effort to organize religious voters whose views might be compatible with Democrats.

The site, http://www.FaithfulDemocrats.com, will go online Tuesday and showcase theologians, party strategists, political leaders and bloggers in hopes of conducting a national discussion on politics and faith.

"It struck me as strange that people whose political world is motivated by faith had to be Republican. Democrats need to be on the playing field," said Wilhelm, who recalls the unfriendly reception he received 13 years ago when, as chairman of the Democratic Party, he suggested to Christian Coalition members that good Christians could belong to either party.

He said the new Internet site will give religious Democrats "the moral support and some language they can use."

The nonprofit Web venture was conceived by Wilhelm and Chicago-based Democratic activist Jesse Lava. Tennessee state Sen. Roy Herron, a former minister, and Rev. Romal Tune, founder of the Washington D.C.-based Clergy Strategic Alliances, are co-chairmen.

By venturing into the unrestricted and freewheeling world of the Internet, however, FaithfulDemocrats are just as likely to find an full-throated blowback as an amen chorus.

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., caused a furor in the liberal blogosphere this summer when he warned liberals and progressives in a speech that "we cannot abandon the field of religious discourse."

The Web site and its place as an alternative to Christian conservatism comes as churchgoing voters who consider themselves politically liberal have tried to link their religious values to causes such as social justice, opposition to the Iraq war and the environment.

Over the last 30 years, the GOP has found common ground among traditional pro-business, anti-tax Republicans, small government advocates and social conservatives. Democrats, on the other hand, have been influenced by a secular, liberal bloc that advocates separation of church and state. The party's disparate groups have had more trouble finding a single voice.

A poll by the Pew Research Center found that the proportion of Americans who considered the Republican Party friendly to religion dropped from 55 percent last year to 47 percent this year. But that is still significantly higher than the 26 percent who regard Democrats as friendly to religion.

An effort such as FaithfulDemocrats is an "example of the evolution of this debate," said John Green, an expert on religious voters and a senior fellow at the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. "It could be very well be that things like this could turn that image around."

FaithfulDemocrats' debut on the Internet features articles such as "What's wrong with the Religious Right" and "Religious values, the higher ground."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; faithfuldemocrats; godhaters; jesushaters; jewhaters; partyofhate; religious; religiousleft; voice
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To: NormsRevenge

Does anyone know a real Christian that admits to being a Democrat? I don't.


21 posted on 09/04/2006 9:38:50 PM PDT by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: stm

Thanks!

Saw Ann and her 7/28/06 Book TV event on CSpan today, Give 'em hell, Ann!


22 posted on 09/04/2006 9:39:32 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Nothing will change for peoples' perceptions of the Democrat party until the Party changes it's platform to take out the planks that are so unfriendly to religion and religious expression. That ain't gonna happen.


23 posted on 09/04/2006 9:39:41 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: NormsRevenge

The "Christian" DIMRAT voice will be characterized by:

1. RANK DEMONIC HYPOCRISY.

2. UTTER OBTUSE SILLINESS

3. TRANSPARENT IRRATIONALITY

4. HIDEOUSLY CONTRADICTORY DOUBLE MESSAGES

5. RASPY, HATE FILLED, STRAIGHT FROM HELL TONES

6. DUPLICITES OF THE WORST SORT THAT WOULD CAUSE DRUNKEN SAILORS TO BLUSH IN ABJECT GUILT AND SHAME

7. STUPIDITIES SO GROSS THAT THINKING FOLKS WILL WONDER WHAT microbes off of what slug's arse managed to climb up a microphone to utter such startling stupidities.

8. DOUBLE SPEAK so TRANSPARENT that folks will wonder if BRAVE NEW world has been resurrected.

9. RAILING, RANTING, SCREAMING OBSCENITIES as the "CHRISTIAN" DIMRATS forget what forum and issues they are supposed to be role playing.

10. SHRILLERY'S forked tail and forked tongue continually slipping out from behind her frozen smile mask and out from under her white nun's habit made especially for such alternate reality contexts.


24 posted on 09/04/2006 9:41:20 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: NormsRevenge
FaithfulDemocrats

Oxymoron Pronunciation: "äk-sE-'mor-"än Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural ox·y·mo·ra /-'mor-&/ Etymology: Late Greek oxymOron, from neuter of oxymOros pointedly foolish, from Greek oxys sharp, keen + mOros foolish : a combination of contradictory or incongruous words (as cruel kindness); broadly : something (as a concept) that is made up of contradictory or incongruous elements - ox·y·mo·ron·ic /-m&-'rä-nik, -mo-/ adjective - ox·y·mo·ron·i·cal·ly /-ni-k(&-)lE/ adverb

25 posted on 09/04/2006 9:42:47 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: jrooney

Glad to read of it. Thanks.


26 posted on 09/04/2006 9:42:55 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: garylmoore
The pews of the apostate churches under the National COuncil of Churches are full of admitted democrats. That's why these churches are funding gay celebration, abortion, globull warming, and anti Amerca and Israel....that's what happens when you mix democrats and Christianity.

Democrats look at religion as something that needs to be changed so they've hijacked it.

27 posted on 09/04/2006 9:43:11 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids (We'll stay out of your bedrooms, if you stay out of our children's classrooms.)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is what a "religious" Democrat looks like.


A gimp.

28 posted on 09/04/2006 9:44:54 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NormsRevenge

A large amount of evangelicals homeschool. The Democrats will never win this large vote as long as they are so in the pocket of public education.

A lot of people their politics is where the rubber meets the road. For instance gas prices can make or break a race. For a homeschooling family, this is by far the most important issue in their lives.

I can say with confidence my large hs group votes probably 95% Republican.


29 posted on 09/04/2006 9:48:56 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: NormsRevenge

Every time I see the bumper sticker "Christian and a Democrat" it makes me want to ask - yes but which one do you do well?


30 posted on 09/04/2006 9:49:22 PM PDT by hometoroost (TSA = Thousands Standing Around)
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To: NormsRevenge

Which religious voice?

The voice that talks about killing babies?

The voice that wants to take guns away?

The voice that wants to halt surveilance on terrorists?


Which religious voice? LOL! </sarcasm off


31 posted on 09/04/2006 9:59:30 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NormsRevenge
Starting to collect these topics!

Not God's Party: A new poll shows Democrats are losing (more) religious voters

Democrats push for own religious voice

32 posted on 09/04/2006 10:01:06 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NormsRevenge

Dims are just so amusing, when they break out their contorted God talk, yet again. It worked so well for Kerry, right? LOL. The last time anybody took a Dim seriously on religion, we got Jimmy Carter, and now there's that pesky "by their fruit ye shall know them" thing, that they've had to contend with ever since.


33 posted on 09/04/2006 10:06:17 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: NormsRevenge
Fat Ted is suggesting vinotheism for the Dems' new religion.
34 posted on 09/04/2006 10:20:35 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Dems - Your conduct is an invitation to the enemy, yet few of you have heart enough to join them.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"http://www.FaithfulDemocrats.com"

"FaithfulDemocrats" exposes what their faith is mainly expected to be about, first and foremost the Democrat Party.
35 posted on 09/04/2006 10:30:09 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids

So while there are plenty of liberal church members, Official Democrats aren't aware of them?

SSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH.


36 posted on 09/04/2006 10:38:51 PM PDT by Bethaneidh
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

If you could add pardoning 500+ criminals for bribes and paybacks, you'd be describing Clinton.


37 posted on 09/04/2006 10:45:04 PM PDT by baa39 (Quid hoc ad aeternitatem?)
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To: I still care

More numbers of traditional Catholics are also homeschooling, especially with so many schools closed and the Catholic schools still open often dominated by feminist nuns.

In my rural area, homeschool groups are small, so on some things the Protestants and Catholic homeschool mothers get together for group outings for the children.


38 posted on 09/04/2006 10:49:58 PM PDT by baa39 (Quid hoc ad aeternitatem?)
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To: garylmoore
"Does anyone know a real Christian that admits to being a Democrat? I don't."

I never really thought about it, but now that you mentioned it, you are correct. True Christians and true Democrats mix like oil and water. The Democratic party stands for everything that is anti-Christian.

39 posted on 09/04/2006 11:11:41 PM PDT by skimask (People who care what you do don't matter.......People who matter don't care what you do.)
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To: baa39

Once you've had a successful homeschool experience, public schools seem poor and second rate.

Homeschooling makes people very aware very fast of how antagonist Dems are to personal rights. If it has to do with sex, they are for it. Otherwise, with them your life is not your own, especially when it comes to raising your children.

The Dems are so obvious about taking away homeschooling rights that successful homeschooling families get very antagonistic to them. My church has several Dems, but my homeschooling group has none. And we do have Catholics, also.


40 posted on 09/05/2006 2:53:25 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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