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The Veteran as an Ethnic Group: "...you WILL NOT make me hide in the closet."
BootMurtha.com ^ | 9/6/2006 | IPWGOP

Posted on 09/06/2006 5:06:42 PM PDT by IPWGOP

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1 posted on 09/06/2006 5:06:43 PM PDT by IPWGOP
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To: IPWGOP

I'm proud of that ethnicity!


2 posted on 09/06/2006 5:08:05 PM PDT by bannie (HILLARY: Not all perversions are sexual.)
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To: Coop; W04Man
OldWarDogs.us article ping
3 posted on 09/06/2006 5:08:57 PM PDT by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy, and I am the webmaster for www.bootmurtha.com)
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"Veterans are scorned, both by society and by government. Government budgets for caring for wounded and disabled Veterans is always limited, but budgets for the needs of other, civilian ethnics always seem to be limitless."

Great line but only somewhat true. We are the heroes of the moment when Japs sink ships in Pearl Harbor without warning or Arabs run airplanes into buildings. But after the hubbub dies away and our blood is spent on some foreign soil we are just another handout group; used by liberal lapdogs and vilified as welfare cases by the right.
4 posted on 09/06/2006 5:28:59 PM PDT by samm1148
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To: samm1148

I have never, EVER seen conservatives vilify veterans are welfare cases.


5 posted on 09/06/2006 5:34:52 PM PDT by Coop (...one of the best things we can do for the troops is to boot Cut'n'run Murtha!! -- JimRob)
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To: IPWGOP

Veterans scorned by government?

I guess he never got his 10 point preference, GI Bill, or eternal heath care from Tri-care...

Nothing sadder than the "victim class."


6 posted on 09/06/2006 5:42:15 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Coop

Look below your reply to me.


7 posted on 09/06/2006 5:43:25 PM PDT by samm1148
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To: IPWGOP

I am an Vet-American also, and am very proud of my 8 years of service and my tour in Viet Nam.

Freedom is not Free.

4th Inf Div, 67-68


8 posted on 09/06/2006 5:46:43 PM PDT by Ace the Biker (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: IPWGOP

Veteran-Americans are actually the most worthy of the group having EARNED the designation in honorable fashion.


9 posted on 09/06/2006 6:39:01 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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I’m not impressed with "Thank you for your service" which is becoming almost a cliche ...

I hated that the first time I heard it.

I think, "A little late, aren't you? What did you do during the war?"

10 posted on 09/06/2006 6:42:10 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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It's as if the person saying it has put himself in a class that has no obligation other than to say "Thank you for your service."


11 posted on 09/06/2006 6:46:29 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Triggerhippie
Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.
I did not.
I served two terms.
I can not find a single point on which to disagree with the author, in this essay.

That you threw up a straw-man "argument" tells me many things about you.

Care to guess what those may be?
12 posted on 09/06/2006 7:24:57 PM PDT by sarasmom (Lead, follow, or get out of the way .The "debate" ended on 91101 for serious adults.)
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To: IPWGOP

F*UCKIN' A!


13 posted on 09/06/2006 8:27:29 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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I would be most proud to buy you a beer!!!

I served in Danang during '68-'69-'70 and, I agree, we do recognize each other and we do share certain traits. And I like the "difference" issue; Vamericans or what? We need contributions here, something catchy.


14 posted on 09/06/2006 8:50:32 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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"..vilified as welfare cases by the right."

I don't agree with your statement at all and it makes me question your POV.


15 posted on 09/06/2006 8:52:34 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: Rembrandt

Please see post #6. I know many liberals masquerade on here and the poster may be that. My point of view is 20 years of military service to a public who often didn't know that a base was near to them and mostly looked on it as a source of federal employment for locals.


16 posted on 09/06/2006 8:57:08 PM PDT by samm1148
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To: samm1148
"They" are never going to accept any clear explanation from you.
OTOH, "they" never come back for more information, when you call them on their "freely voiced ignorant opinions".
hmmmm

Changing topics slightly...
We all swore the same oath, and the vast majority of us have at least one piece of pretty parchment paper that says we faithfully honored that oath between two arbitrary dates, but that piece of paper does not say we are entirely done with that oath, and I know of no un-oath-swearing ceremony that relieved any of us from our original oaths.

Perhaps we could all unite and demand "they" make it official and final, for all those who wear the boots now, and in the future?
17 posted on 09/06/2006 10:00:07 PM PDT by sarasmom (Lead, follow, or get out of the way .The "debate" ended on 91101 for serious adults.)
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Humm Interesting. In the book, Starship Troopers, R.A. Heinlein went this one bit further. IF not a vet, no vote. All police had to be combat vets and so on. As an adult commentary, it is worth the time to read again. Favorite quote - "There are no dangerous weapons, only dangerous people".
18 posted on 09/06/2006 10:04:22 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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Humm Interesting. In the book, Starship Troopers, R.A. Heinlein went this one bit further. IF not a vet, no vote. All police had to be combat vets and so on. As an adult commentary, it is worth the time to read again. Favorite quote - "There are no dangerous weapons, only dangerous people".
19 posted on 09/06/2006 10:04:35 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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Glad to see George's piece getting a little of the publicity it deserves. Thank you.

It's going to take a couple of days to make it happen but watch Old War Dogs for information on buying Veteran-American bumper stickers, tees, hats, etc. Proceeds will go to one of the vet-oriented charities on our sidebar.

-- Bill Faith, webmaster, Old War Dogs

20 posted on 09/06/2006 10:08:26 PM PDT by bdfaith (Thanks, Backhoe.)
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