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Following complaints, ABC tweaks its 9/11 mini-series
Chicago Tribune ^

Posted on 09/07/2006 11:21:19 AM PDT by Sir Gawain

ABC toned down a scene that involved Clinton's national security adviser, Samuel "Sandy" Berger, declining to give the order to kill bin Laden, according to a person involved with the film who declined to be identified. "That sequence has been the focus of attention," the source said.

The network also decided that the credits would say the film is based "in part" on the 9/11 panel report, rather than "based on" the report, as the producers originally intended.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


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To: bpjam

"Clinton is running a cult."

True. And always seemed much like an organized crime family.


281 posted on 09/07/2006 4:31:11 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: paudio

Message sent. Thanks for the link.


282 posted on 09/07/2006 4:32:22 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: GianniV
By the end of the week, there will be a scenes added where Bush is ordering the 9/11 attacks...

You kidding? By the end of the week there will be scenes with Bush and bin laden drinking beers in the Rose Garden and Rove on his back with his paws in the air.

283 posted on 09/07/2006 4:35:43 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: beyond the sea

robert.a.iger@disney.com

Flood the coward with emails.


284 posted on 09/07/2006 4:36:51 PM PDT by Free_SJersey (THE GOVERNMENT THAT GOVERNS LEAST, GOVERNS BEST.)
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To: Sir Gawain

Where was the outcry when CBS used FORGED PAPERS to smear President Bush just prior to the last election????


285 posted on 09/07/2006 4:39:27 PM PDT by stockstrader
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To: indcons

The Clintonistas have been busy - another cave-in, more liberal bias:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1697360/posts


286 posted on 09/07/2006 4:42:44 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Mainstream Journalism)
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To: All

PROGRESS FOR AMERICA ROLLS OUT a new war on terror ad.

http://www.progressforamerica.org/090606.wmv


287 posted on 09/07/2006 4:42:44 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: scooby321

Is this called "Inside 9/11"?
Netflix description: National Geographic's powerful, comprehensive documentary examines one of the darkest days in American history. Film footage, phone recordings, FAA "chatter" and interviews tell the story of the horrific events of Sept. 11, 2001. The program explores the rise of Islamic fundamentalism; the history of al-Qaida; the events leading up to September 11; and the aftermath of the terrorist attacks, including the investigation of the government response.


288 posted on 09/07/2006 4:46:42 PM PDT by enviros_kill
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To: Sir Gawain

Democrats and the Clintons just don't want sheeple to know or to remember that Terrorism against America took place BEFORE Bush was in office.

They do however make a point about how Conservatives got The Reagans mini-series pulled. But of course that was more of a movie with actors based in a biased and inaccurate way of Reagans Presidency, and not based on facts.


289 posted on 09/07/2006 4:48:11 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: shrinkermd

"even though Disney/ABC distributed nine hundred copies" -

so I'll skip recording the whitewash on TV and locate the unadulterated version somewhere. Anybody have any ideas?


290 posted on 09/07/2006 4:50:04 PM PDT by enviros_kill
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To: Petruchio
"...But the Democrat Party is . . ."

Morally and ethically bankrupt!
291 posted on 09/07/2006 4:53:34 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (RADICAL ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ELIMINATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: Sir Gawain

Policy Disputes Over Hunt Paralyzed Clinton's Aides

By Steve Coll
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, February 22, 2004; Page A17

Between 1998 and 2000, the CIA and President Bill Clinton's national security team were caught up in paralyzing policy disputes as they secretly debated the legal permissions for covert operations against Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan.

The debates left both White House counterterrorism analysts and CIA career operators frustrated and at times confused about what kinds of operations could be carried out, according to interviews with more than a dozen officials and lawyers who were directly involved.

There was little question that under U.S. law it was permissible to kill bin Laden and his top aides, at least after the evidence showed they were responsible for the attacks on U.S. embassies in Africa in 1998. The ban on assassinations -- contained in a 1981 executive order by President Ronald Reagan -- did not apply to military targets, the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel had previously ruled in classified opinions. Bin Laden's Tarnak Farm and other terrorist camps in Afghanistan were legitimate military targets under this definition, White House lawyers agreed.

Also, the assassination ban did not apply to attacks carried out in preemptive self-defense -- when it seemed likely that the target was planning to strike the United States. Clearly bin Laden qualified under this standard as well.

Clinton had demonstrated his willingness to kill bin Laden, without any pretense of seeking his arrest, when he ordered the cruise missile strikes on an eastern Afghan camp in August 1998, after the CIA obtained intelligence that bin Laden might be there for a meeting of al Qaeda leaders.

Yet the secret legal authorizations Clinton signed after this failed missile strike required the CIA to make a good faith effort to capture bin Laden for trial, not kill him outright.

Beginning in the summer of 1998, Clinton signed a series of top secret memos authorizing the CIA or its agents to use lethal force, if necessary, in an attempt to capture bin Laden and several top lieutenants and return them to the United States to face trial.

From Director George J. Tenet on down, the CIA's senior managers wanted the White House lawyers to be crystal clear about what was permissible in the field. They were conditioned by history -- the CIA assassination scandals of the 1970s, the Iran-contra affair of the 1980s -- to be cautious about legal permissions emanating from the White House. Earlier in his career, Tenet had served as staff director of the Senate Intelligence Committee and director of intelligence issues at the White House, roles steeped in the Washington culture of oversight and careful legality.

Tenet and his senior CIA colleagues demanded that the White House lay out rules of engagement for capturing bin Laden in writing, and that they be signed by Clinton. Then, with such detailed authorizations in hand, every one of the CIA officers who handed a gun or a map to an Afghan agent could be assured that he or she was operating legally.

This was the role of the Memorandum of Notification, as it was called. It was typically seven or eight pages long, written in the form of a presidential decision memo. It began with a statement about how bin Laden and his aides had attacked the United States. The memo made clear the president was aware of the risks he was assuming as he sent the CIA into action.

Some of the most sensitive language concerned the specific authorization to use deadly force. Clinton's national security aides said they wanted to encourage the CIA to carry out an effective operation against bin Laden, not to burden the agency with constraints or doubts. Yet Clinton's aides did not want authorizations that could be interpreted by Afghan agents as an unrestricted license to kill. For one thing, the Justice Department signaled that it would oppose such language if it was proposed for Clinton's signature.

The compromise wording, in a succession of bin Laden-focused memos, always expressed some ambiguity about how and when deadly force could be used in an operation designed to take bin Laden into custody. Typical language, recalled one official involved, instructed the CIA to "apprehend with lethal force as authorized."

At the CIA, officers and supervisors agonized over these abstract phrases. They worried that if an operation in Afghanistan went badly, they would be accused of having acted outside the memo's scope. Over time, recriminations grew between the CIA and the White House.

It was common in Clinton's cabinet and among his National Security Council aides to see the CIA as much too cautious, paralyzed by fears of legal and political risks. At Langley, this criticism rankled. The CIA's senior managers believed officials at the White House wanted to have it both ways: They liked to blame the agency for its supposed lack of aggression, yet they sent over classified legal memos full of wiggle words.

Clinton's covert policy against bin Laden pursued two goals at the same time. He ordered submarines equipped with cruise missiles to patrol secretly under ocean waters off Pakistan in the hope that CIA spotters would one day identify bin Laden's location confidently enough to warrant a deadly missile strike.

But Clinton also authorized the CIA to carry out operations that legally required the agency's officers to plan in almost every instance to capture bin Laden alive and bring him to the United States to face trial.

This meant the CIA officers had to arrange in advance for detention facilities, extraction flights and other elaborate contingencies -- even if they expected that bin Laden would probably die in the arrest attempt. These requirements made operational planning much more cumbersome, the CIA officers contended.

In fashioning this sensitive policy in the midst of an impeachment crisis that lasted into early 1999, Clinton's national security adviser, Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, struggled to forge a consensus within the White House national security team. Among other things, he had to keep on board a skeptical Attorney General Janet Reno and her Justice Department colleagues, who were deeply invested in law enforcement approaches to terrorism, according to senior officials involved.

As the months passed, Clinton signed new memos in which the language, while still ambiguous, made the use of lethal force by the CIA's Afghan agents more likely, according to officials involved. At first the CIA was permitted to use lethal force only in the course of a legitimate attempt to make an arrest. Later the memos allowed for a pure lethal attack if an arrest was not possible. Still, the CIA was required to plan all its agent missions with an arrest in mind.

Some CIA managers chafed at the White House instructions. The CIA received "no written word nor verbal order to conduct a lethal action" against bin Laden before Sept. 11, one official involved recalled. "The objective was to render this guy to law enforcement." In these operations, the CIA had to recruit agents "to grab [bin Laden] and bring him to a secure place where we can turn him over to the FBI. . . . If they had said 'lethal action' it would have been a whole different kettle of fish, and much easier."

Berger later recalled his frustration about this hidden debate. Referring to the military option in the two-track policy, he said at a 2002 congressional hearing: "It was no question, the cruise missiles were not trying to capture him. They were not law enforcement techniques."

The overriding trouble was, whether they arrested bin Laden or killed him, they first had to find him.


http://www.neoperspectives.com/clintonterrorism.htm
(From the WP, but link died)


292 posted on 09/07/2006 5:09:54 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Amnesty_From_Government.htm)
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To: conservative blonde
I agree. I won't waste my time watching a 'watered-down' version of the story.

I did that once with Sinclair Broadcasting story on John Kerry, and I'm not about to be insulted again with a 'diluted' version of this story.

Oh well, the Clinton Cult Machine has worked its magic once again. You would think we would be used to it by now.

293 posted on 09/07/2006 5:11:12 PM PDT by stockstrader
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To: Sir Gawain

I rather watch that documentary 9/11 on CBS than this. Also, it is season premiere on Sunday for FOX.


294 posted on 09/07/2006 5:11:50 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Ptarmigans will rise again!)
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To: paudio

Glad you posted that. Everyone should write to ABC


295 posted on 09/07/2006 5:17:05 PM PDT by SueRae
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To: traviskicks
"The overriding trouble was, whether they arrested bin Laden or killed him, they first had to find him."

This was at least much more feasible during the Clinton years than later when he went deep underground. One of the biggest mistakes the Clintonistas made over and over again was that they focused on capture and the "law enforcement" mode rather than killing him. Also, they should have understood that we needed to destroy or degrade as much of his entire network in one blow as possible. Thus, rather than obsess over WHICH of his know camps he might be in, we should have prepared a massive array of cruise missile strikes against EVERY known location where he might be, and hit every site at once. That way, whether or not we got him, we'd be highly likely to get a lot of his network and infrastructure. By assuming that we had to have a surgical "grab" operation to arrest Bin Laden, the Clinton/Burglar types constantly set the bar so high that they could claim they didn't have assurance that we could safely capture and extract him without hurting one hair on his beard....
296 posted on 09/07/2006 5:19:18 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Mainstream Journalism)
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To: SueRae

I suppose everyones paper had the story about how this is all lies from republicans. They wanted to bash it before it airs so no one would believe it when it does. Disgusting.


297 posted on 09/07/2006 5:20:58 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftists, the enemy within.)
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To: yield 2 the right

Monday Night Football is no longer on ABC--it's on ESPN now! You don't have to give it up! I am personally very happy about that!


298 posted on 09/07/2006 5:26:00 PM PDT by Shelayne (...And though my heart is torn, I will praise You in this storm... ~~Casting Crowns)
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To: paudio; All
I agree that we all need to send a comment to ABC stating that they shouldn't yield to Democrats or their blogs. I've sent my comment. The more we show our support not to cut the film the better the chance it will remain uncut.

As MacRanger has to say about this (emphasis added):

http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/09/07/abc-to-edit-path-to-911-wont-matter/

Per the news from ABC, this Not much of an edit, if this is true. However, there are a couple of hundred of unedited DVDs in circulation, many of which are in media hands...

So even *IF* ABC buckled, and I’m not so sure they did, people that will watch this special will fully see the truth about what Clinton did and more important didn’t do....

Additionally, in case I didn’t mention it, there are going to be more TV shows coming out about the 9/11, including I am told one based on Catastrophe: Clinton’s Role in America’s Worst Disaster, which has been out since 2004. I do know that many of those who worked in the IC and FBI during the Clinton Administration are going to be coming out now that the truth is on the table, so they can tell their story as well.

The Clinton spin doctors are famous for how good they shielded him from legacy disaster, but this time they screwed up royally. Fact is that not everyone in Hollywood is liberal, actor or director/producer, and the real story of the Clinton years is entirely compelling and worthy of a movie or two, or three.


Here again is the site for comments to ABC Comment form
299 posted on 09/07/2006 5:26:22 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: Sir Gawain


Hey gang. We did it again...and they believed us! Suckers!
300 posted on 09/07/2006 5:30:12 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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