Posted on 09/20/2006 10:32:34 AM PDT by tpaine
Many conservatives on FR oppose such a tax.. Why?
I think property taxes need to be addressed first.
What the United States needs is another Tea Party!!!
Well obviously the kongress kritters are dragging their feet on it. I propose a tax revolt. Refuse to pay their damned taxes, and see how fast that they listen to the people then.
And much more dangerous then the federal imcome tax.
Lots of people refusing to pay taxes would probably just result in lots of people being shot and/or imprisoned and a different large group of people cheering about people getting "what they deserved" for trying to "get out of their duty and obligation as a citizen".
Just a few people doing that would be like you say, but if half the people in this country strapped on some balls and said no to taxes, then the numbers would be so great that the IRS could not function. They could not pay bills, they could not pay their own wages. Congress would then be faced with having to act responsibly. That is our Tea Party.
This was the one clinker in the list.
Fifth Amendment protections apply only to criminal cases. Almost all tax cases are civil cases (failure to pay a debt has always been considered a tort as opposed to a crime). One cannot be held to criminal court for an accurately filled-out tax form, even if the monies in question are the proceeds of illegal activities. (We actually had a case against a fence thrown out when I was a cop because we only his tax returns as evidence. D'OH!)
I have seen tax returns filled out by drug dealers, fences, and bookies. Some of them are actually pretty funny when it comes to "type of employment."
Drug dealer's employment: "Pharmaceutical Industry"
Fence: "Retail Goods."
Bookie: "Sports Forecasting & Consulting."
Thanks tp.
Enact a 'Prop.13' type tax in your State.
I agree with your tag line. Too bad it would be considered "extremist" by a large number of people in this country. I also like "IRS - America's gestapo".
Do away with tax in your state is a better thought.
We can pretend that enforcement agencies will not use tax info, but in effect: -- disclosing information sought in tax returns constitutes self incrimination.
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"The simplest system of taxation yet adopted is that of levying on the land and the laborer. But it would be better to levy the same sums on the produce of that labor when collected in the barn of the farmer; because then if through the badness of the year he made little, he would pay little. It would be better yet to levy it only on the surplus of this produce above his own wants. It would be better, too, to levy it, not in his hands, but in those of the purchaser; because though the farmer would in fact pay it, as the purchaser must deduct it from the original price of his produce yet the farmer would not be sensible that he paid it... What a comfort to the farmer to be allowed to supply his own wants before he should be liable to pay anything, and then to pay only out of his surplus."
Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1784. Papers 7:558
John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25) offer a comprehensive bill to kill all federal income, SS/Medicare payroll, and gift/estate taxes outright replacing them with with a national retail sales tax administered by the states.
H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.Refer for additional information:
A ping to yah all.
That's a great list.
Wonderful, informative post.
And we have not come very far in the last 230 years have we?
The income tax is income redistribution and confiscation of private property.
It is communism-lite.
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