Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Is Islam Dying? Europe Certainly Is
The Brussels Journal ^ | 09/20/2006 | Paul Belien

Posted on 09/21/2006 3:05:07 AM PDT by Republicain

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-70 next last

1 posted on 09/21/2006 3:05:07 AM PDT by Republicain
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Republicain
much the same way as the Taliban did over Afghanistan

Past tense, I note.

2 posted on 09/21/2006 3:08:35 AM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicain

Great Article... Europeans can't blame Bush or the Americans or even Martians about that coming fate (hopefully not) if they keep being passive about Islam... they should act now while they still have the majority...


3 posted on 09/21/2006 3:31:19 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicain

Ummm....so which is it? Are they on the rise or in decline?


4 posted on 09/21/2006 3:36:54 AM PDT by 03A3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicain

Europe is losing this war.


5 posted on 09/21/2006 3:37:16 AM PDT by Brilliant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant
Europe is losing this war.


6 posted on 09/21/2006 3:38:47 AM PDT by StoneGiant (Power without morality is disaster. Morality without power is useless.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Brilliant
Europe is losing this war.

I hope not...

7 posted on 09/21/2006 3:42:15 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (Never Give Your Enemy (ROP) A Foothold.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Republicain
When I lived in Europe, the churches were 95% empty. The only ones who attended services at all were very old Catholics, and/or evangelical Christian young families.

Islam knows it is a lie, because Paul wrote that God has written His law in our hearts, so that we have no excuse.

I agree with the author's premise that much of the bluster and violence of the Muslims is directed at the subjects under the yoke of Islam's boot. They dare not hope for help from the West, so they must remain slaves to Muhammad's Death Cult.

8 posted on 09/21/2006 3:42:51 AM PDT by SkyPilot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 03A3

Islam is in decline, but Europe is declining faster?


9 posted on 09/21/2006 3:43:51 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: FreedomPoster

Islam is in decline with 1 billion plus and growing?


10 posted on 09/21/2006 3:45:49 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Republicain
Perhaps it is wise to seriously consider salvaging as many European cultural treasures as one already can, before it is too late, and bringing them to safety elsewhere.

Looks like we will be getting millions of more refugees. One could make the case that France Politically is already lost. Italy and Spain will be followed by Germany where the skinheads will probably put up a good fight. Poland and England could survive isolated again, but Poland will probably be stabbed in the back as Europe is carved into two halves reminiscent of WWII. The main problem of course will be the nuclear weapons. France has a few nuclear submarines, which really should be viewed as hostile towards the west politically.

11 posted on 09/21/2006 3:48:10 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Republicain

Europe is in decline (and denial) because it has allowed the Muslim murderers to kill what was once the foundation and fountain of civilization, art, literature (arguable, I concede) and grand architecture. If Islam is in decline, no one will know it for millenia because reasonable public figures continue to cave to the public tantrums performed on cue by "angry" Muslims incapable of handling anything that appears to be a "slight" against their "religion".

When an institution such as Islam is unable to contend with an "outsider" like the Pope holding up a mirror to them and quoting the 600 year-old words of a Byzantine Emperor and, rather than respond with introspection they respond with violence (the very act of which only confirms that nothing has changed in the 600 years since the Emperor uttered those words), there is a problem. And, that problem is with Islam, itself. This religion, like an ancient stopped clock, has frozen itself in a period of time that is over 1200 years out of step with the rest of the world. Its practitioners are, by and large, poor and ignorant, and resent the fact that the rest of the world has passed them by. Many of them are "educated" only in what a madrassah wants them to know aabout the Koran. They are, in every aspect, the product of their civilization and environment. This is not to suggest that I feel any sympathy for them, only to emphasize that it is Islam, itself, that is at the root of today's evil, because Islam cannot and will not adapt to the modern world, unlike Judaism and Christianity and other religions around the world.


12 posted on 09/21/2006 3:48:55 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: onyx
Islam is in decline with 1 billion plus and growing?

He is using the following theory - A light bulb burns its brightest just before it fails.

And yes, people who cannot handle criticism are typically the kind of people who really need to be criticized. They are in denial. Just like the Clinton Fascists tried to deny the 'Path to 911'. The main problem however is that once a society or civilization becomes nuclear capable, it apparently wont ever go away. Witness the Russian Chekists. The best hope, assuming Islam is or will go fully nuclear, is that Islam is reformed from within. Unfortunately, we have close to 1,300 years of proof that reformation will not happen on its own.

13 posted on 09/21/2006 3:55:06 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Republicain
G8 Female Fertility Rates (Source: CIA World Factbook)

Children born per woman:

USA - 2.08

France - 1.85

UK - 1.66

Canada 1.61

Germany - 1.39

Japan - 1.39

Italy - 1.28

Russia - 1.27

Either "majority Muslim", or a "vast, open-air museum."

I'll bet on "majority Muslim".

14 posted on 09/21/2006 3:55:31 AM PDT by Sooth2222
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: justa-hairyape

It can't reform. It's whole basis is that state and religion are inseparable.


15 posted on 09/21/2006 3:58:10 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Republicain

The truth is that the Christian faith is now growing faster. Look at the global south, Africa, Asia, and Latin America. Not only in new members to the Catholic Church, but the much more conservitive Anglican Church, ( the church that will in time suceed the ECUSA down the road ), and the Bible based evangelical churches. The dirty little secret is that up to 6 million Muslims leave Islam to become Christians. What we are seeing right now is a religion that just cannot cope with the 21st century.

Christanity, 2.1 billion, and growing.


16 posted on 09/21/2006 4:09:08 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

"What we are seeing right now is a religion that just cannot cope with the 21st century. "

It means the Muslim religion.


17 posted on 09/21/2006 4:13:00 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: onyx
It's whole basis is that state and religion are inseparable.

Very true. Also explains why Marxism has failed during modern times. The 'state and religion' becomes one under Marxism.

There are literally thousands of religions on this planet. Which one may have gotten the whole story right is perhaps irrelevant. We need freedom of religion. It helps to define our cultures and helps to establish morals that in many cases are fairly good. When the state denies freedom of religion, we end up with a single state mandated moralistic view, a state religion.

18 posted on 09/21/2006 4:15:25 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Republicain
"Jesus is the slave of Allah"? At least he isn't the slave of Santa Claus.


19 posted on 09/21/2006 4:15:50 AM PDT by dr_who_2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: onyx

Depends on how fast the MTV bomb is working.


20 posted on 09/21/2006 4:16:03 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-70 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson