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DNA Tests Help Uncover Forgotten History ("slave ancestors had been raped by their owners")
DiversityInc.com ^ | September 22, 2006 | "Compiled" by the DiversityInc staff

Posted on 09/23/2006 4:24:32 PM PDT by flowerplough

After two years of digging and testing, Alternet.org contributing columnist Christopher Rabb discovered that there is more to a person's heritage than their ancestry.

In order to learn more about his black ancestors, Rabb and his family began a series of DNA tests, which unveiled several things he found troubling.

"I quickly realized that the more intently I sought to learn about my black ancestors, the more I would have to research the white people who owned them," he says. "A notable subset of the slave owners were also my ancestors."

Rabb discovered that some of his slave ancestors had been raped by their owners. While he always suspected this, testing and digging into his family's past confirmed it. It was not an easy fact to come to terms with.

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Yes, "some of his slave ancestors had been raped by their owners", but some likely also consented to sex with their owners. In addition, some of Rabb's non-slave ancestors were probably Africans who captured and sold African slaves, as some Africans still do, to this day. One of my ancestors, I'm proud to proclaim, was a member of the Grand Army of the Republic, the only volunteer army in history to bleed and die to free slaves that were neither relative nor compatriot.
1 posted on 09/23/2006 4:24:33 PM PDT by flowerplough
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2 posted on 09/23/2006 4:27:26 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: flowerplough

Yep. Rape happens. Next.


3 posted on 09/23/2006 4:28:04 PM PDT by Ganymede
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To: flowerplough

Bet one of my ancestors shot him.


4 posted on 09/23/2006 4:29:13 PM PDT by U S Army EOD
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To: flowerplough

So some of us white folks could collect reparations too?


5 posted on 09/23/2006 4:30:06 PM PDT by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: flowerplough

How did this pinhead come to the conclusion that his ancestors were "raped?" Maybe they were just two "consenting adults" engaging in a little "diversity" if you get my drift.


6 posted on 09/23/2006 4:30:08 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You can't defeat your enemy unless you are willing to get down in the mud with him.)
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To: flowerplough
Taking a guess--since I have no statistics--I would bet that Most blacks probably 80% who have slave ancesters have some white blood in them.You can look at America's blacks and tell them from their Nigerian cousins. His surprise is surprising. Maybe he never studied history . Like the previous poster said , many of them were probably raped , others got special favors for sex, it runs the gamut of reasons.
7 posted on 09/23/2006 4:30:13 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: U S Army EOD

Heh.


8 posted on 09/23/2006 4:32:17 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: sgtbono2002

He's not surprised; he's just sensationalizing. In 500 years there has been every form of monkey business including the apartheid of the black community today.


9 posted on 09/23/2006 4:33:35 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: flowerplough

Either that, or some young lady decided that the job of the boss's mistress beat picking cotton in the fields.


10 posted on 09/23/2006 4:33:43 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: flowerplough
Grand Army of the Republic, the only volunteer army

While your ancestor may have volunteered, the GAR wasn't an all-volunteer army.

And I hope that the author of the story is ready to pay into a reparation fund on behalf of his slave-owning ancestors.

11 posted on 09/23/2006 4:34:49 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Godebert

So this moron thinks he's discovered gravity?

Slaves were property. That was the law at the time.

My family has lived in North American since 1619. And no, I am not responsible for acts that took place before I was born.

And no, you can't go back and change the law to make someone feel happy.

We don't "do" ex post facto laws in America.

I would suggest someone get a life and move on. Everyone else has... a long time ago.


12 posted on 09/23/2006 4:35:57 PM PDT by sdillard
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To: sgtbono2002
I would bet that Most blacks probably 80% who have slave ancesters have some white blood in them.

Social anthropology is a hobby of sorts of mine and I would guess that number to be between 95%-98% of American blacks (ones who can trace their ancestry to slaves). And you are right, the surprising thing is this guy's surprise - he's a pin head.

13 posted on 09/23/2006 4:39:02 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: sgtbono2002

In ten thousand years, and maybe within a thousand years, most, if not all, humans will be of mixed race. Races developed because of geographic isolation.

Modern transportation and the development of the third world has been changing that dramatically.

The elimination of races probably would be a net plus for the planet. One less thing to fight about.


14 posted on 09/23/2006 4:40:17 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"Ka-Ching", money, money, money!!! It's all about money. Next step is to file a civil suit against the descendent's of his ancestors owners for reparations. Follow the money....
15 posted on 09/23/2006 4:40:51 PM PDT by snoringbear
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To: flowerplough
"some of his slave ancestors had been raped by their owners", but some likely also consented to sex with their owners.

Thanks for including that part about consent. Obviously it's never right to own another person but it's fallacy to believe that all or even a majority of slaves were treated badly. Mistreatment of slaves is counter productive. A mistreated slave is a slave that wants to run and becomes a problem. Mistreatment leads to injuries and less productivity. A malnourished slave is unproductive.

The fact is that slaves were an enormous financial investment and I suspect an emotional one as well.
16 posted on 09/23/2006 4:41:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: martin_fierro

please ping me.


17 posted on 09/23/2006 4:42:53 PM PDT by Mercat (Show me what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman.)
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To: flowerplough

Since he has white blood does he have to share in the white guilt burden?


18 posted on 09/23/2006 4:46:15 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: sgtbono2002

Just a reminder.

A Geneologist did studies on decendents from a prominent Zulu woman.

It was found that Pieter Botha, President of South Africa, and leader of the Oxcart Wing of the Nationalist Party was decended from her. In short, the entire reason for apartheit went down the tubes. And that was before DNA testing was routine.

Geneologies are usually falsified, to claim ancestors. Tracing decendents is much harder to falsify. As they say, Mules always claim their ancestors are horses!

Famous examples: Mahomet's decendants include one Brooke Shields as well as Queen ElizabethII. That's not counting various descendents by several very attractive young shegoats.


19 posted on 09/23/2006 4:49:17 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: flowerplough
The races were really muddled in Louisiana. How about the free blacks that humped whites? Nawww....that couldn't have happened.
20 posted on 09/23/2006 4:52:12 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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