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A Smart Shooter?
Popular Science ^ | September 2006 | Patrick Di Justo

Posted on 09/25/2006 11:42:27 AM PDT by Dr. Zzyzx

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To: Lee Heggy123
"require every police officer in America to use it"

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Exactly. A dumb idea that needs to be put down quick.

IIRC, there was some proposed legislation in the past (or was it the S&W agreement?) which specifically exempted law enforcement agencies from having to buy those so-called "smart guns". Does anyone else recall that?

41 posted on 09/25/2006 12:33:27 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Bigh4u2

buttons make lovely triggers for electic ignited ammo.


42 posted on 09/25/2006 12:36:31 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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To: nralife

As a 30 year cop(now retired) I want nothing to do with this type pistol. Depending on what you are doing it is easy to hold your pistol in a variety of slightly different ways. Also, we were taught to shoot with the weak hand in the event our strong hand/arm was injured. Further, the point of conformity as to pistol type and ammo within a dept. is so that any cop can use any other cop's weapon in a pinch.
Last but not least the more complex an item, the more there is to go wrong with it. No big deal when you are at the range. It's a big deal when it's $hi!!en and agitten time.


43 posted on 09/25/2006 12:37:47 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free
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To: Smokin' Joe

not to mention the differences in grip cause by high levels of adrenaline or stress.


44 posted on 09/25/2006 12:39:23 PM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Dr. Zzyzx

Who says there are 29,000 firearms-related deaths per year? Further, this stooopid gimmick will be disconnected. About as useful as trigger locks which eveyone throws away. I'm ambidextrous... the list goes on.


45 posted on 09/25/2006 12:41:19 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Double Tap

> Point is the number of accidents are very low <

Seems to me that the number was around 30 per year for genuine children -- below the teenage years.

Or maybe that was the figure only for guns NOT owned by convicted felons.


46 posted on 09/25/2006 12:43:51 PM PDT by Hawthorn (As a little byrd once told me, I've seen a lot of white macacas in my time!)
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To: jrp; Joe Brower; Shooter 2.5
Sebastian says the NJIT prototype currently has a failure rate of 1 in 100 trigger pulls, but his team aims to improve that rate to 1 in 10,000

This is great to know, given that firearms are used ~2 million times annually to PREVENT crime.

I wonder if Michael Moore would even think about allowing his bodygaurds to carry something with that kind of failure rate.
47 posted on 09/25/2006 12:44:04 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: Dr. Zzyzx
At some point, I plan on putting an Eotech 512 on my tacticool AR. However, I will never abandon having good old dumb iron sights on the thing no matter how de reguirre flat top uppers have become. Same for glass optics.

Having electronics controling the firing mechanism is just asking for someone with a baseball bat beat you to death while you try and change out the batteries.

48 posted on 09/25/2006 12:46:15 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

I can't be certain my full-sized desktop computer will operate all of the time without unpredictable failure. It resides in a comfortable, clean, temperature-controlled office and is not subjected to impacts. At times, it refuses to work for no apparent reason.

Who would want that same delicate technology further miniaturized to fit the harsh environment of a firearm grip? Not me! Spank you very much!

~ Blue Jays ~

49 posted on 09/25/2006 12:48:45 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Dr. Zzyzx; All

New meaning for Blue Screen of Death- do you really want to hear "Abort, retry, or fail?" from your weapons?


50 posted on 09/25/2006 12:55:38 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: Terabitten

Of course.... there's both pistols and long guns on *both* sides of the bed, so it's a moot point.

I like you two. people after my own heart.


51 posted on 09/25/2006 1:19:14 PM PDT by Redcitizen (When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: beltfed308
"The way you hold a gun, curl your fingers, contract your hand muscles as you pull the trigger—all of those measurements are unique," says Donald Sebastian, vice president for research and development at NJIT.

And will they be the same when you truly need your firearm, and are under duress?

52 posted on 09/25/2006 1:20:45 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Redcitizen

Yup... M4 and a P2000 on my side, Remington 870 and a Glock 17 on hers.


53 posted on 09/25/2006 1:21:40 PM PDT by Terabitten (Deus Vult!)
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To: Joe Brower
I've read lots of science fiction, too.

"Get Medieval"


54 posted on 09/25/2006 1:24:47 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: Dr. Zzyzx

"Educating the Smart Gun Users will probably Program the NJIT gun at a local police station's firing range."

Yeah, because that's not frightening or anything. Also, if the thing is electronic then it's going to be subject to interference or EMP, thus disabling it completely in an emergency. (IE: nuclear terrorism anyone?) No thanks, I'll take my plain old dumb gun. So far it's never offered to jump out of the case and go on a rampage.


55 posted on 09/25/2006 1:31:55 PM PDT by Crebain
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To: MD_Willington_1976

[no batteries = no boom??

sounds retarded to me..you can still pistol whip the snot out of someone with it...]

It is still a heavy peice of steel and will leave a nasty bump on the head when you throw it at them.


56 posted on 09/25/2006 1:36:16 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (War Monger...In the name of liberty, let's go to war!!!!)
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To: gridlock

What if you have to witch hands? How many grips does this POS remember? Can I program in my grip when I am running? How about with one hand? How about with one hand and a left support hand?

BS! I don't want it.


57 posted on 09/25/2006 1:38:38 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (War Monger...In the name of liberty, let's go to war!!!!)
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To: Joe Brower
Hey, nifty idea. I've read lots of science fiction, too

You seen Orson Scott Card's new offering, Empire? Sadly, it's on-topic.

58 posted on 09/25/2006 1:49:00 PM PDT by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: Bigh4u2

"his team aims to improve that rate to 1 in 10,000—the Pentagon's standard for military weapons"

So then, if the standard is 1 in 10,000, if you have 10,000 items does that mean it is allowed to fail every time you pull the trigger, as long as it is a different reason each time you pull the trigger?

How about they just replace the trigger with an electric firing mechanism with fingerprint recognition?


59 posted on 09/25/2006 1:54:21 PM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: Dr. Zzyzx

(sarc) How about they also install a gyroscope so that if it is held horizontally instead of the proper vertically, it won't fire?

That would put an end to 95% of the gang shootings. (/sarc)


60 posted on 09/25/2006 1:59:14 PM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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