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BILL'S BULL (Ex-advisers: Clinton Had No Plan To Overthrow Taliban!) kill Osama
NY Daily News ^ | 9/26/06

Posted on 09/26/2006 9:05:47 AM PDT by areafiftyone

WASHINGTON - Former advisers ridiculed ex-President Bill Clinton yesterday for saying he had a plan to invade Afghanistan, topple the Taliban and kill Osama Bin Laden after jihadists nearly sank the destroyer Cole.

"The only order we got from [Clinton] after the Cole was to put together a target list for air attacks," said Michael Scheuer, who led the CIA's hunt for Osama Bin Laden under Clinton.

"What I was involved in could in no way be called a full-fledged plan to attack and overthrow the Taliban," he said.

In his fiery interview on "Fox News Sunday," Clinton claimed he did more than President Bush to get Bin Laden before 9/11, disclosing that he had a secret plan to invade Afghanistan and wipe out the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

Clinton insisted he never ordered that invasion because the CIA and FBI could not "certify" that Bin Laden was involved in the Oct. 12, 2000, attack on the Cole in a Yemeni harbor.

Scheuer, who wrote the book "Imperial Hubris," said he met every 10 days with top members of Clinton's anti-terror team and plans for an invasion were never presented or discussed.

He also lashed out at Clinton for blaming subordinates for the failure to get Bin Laden, saying they had 10 chances to kill or capture the terror kingpin before 9/11.

"I was responsible for sending men and women into harm's way to get information he didn't use," Scheuer added.

Fran Townsend, a former top intelligence adviser in Clinton's Justice Department and now Bush's anti-terror czar, rolled her eyes when asked about Clinton's invasion plan.

"There were lots of things that seemed new" in Clinton's recollections on Fox, Townsend said.

Still, Team Clinton stood by its story. "A plan existed, but the ability to act on it was not corroborated by intelligence until after President Clinton left office," said Clinton spokesman Jay Carson.

P.J. Crowley, spokesman for Clinton's National Security Council and a retired Air Force officer with a security clearance, said many contingency plans existed at the Pentagon.

"It wasn't that there was a lack of plans, it's that there was a lack of actionable intelligence," Crowley said.

Scheuer and a retired senior FBI official agreed that they knew almost immediately that Al Qaeda was behind the Cole bombing. "We all said this was definitely Bin Laden," the ex-FBI official said. "But we couldn't take it to court and get an indictment."

Two sources that Clinton repeatedly cited in the Fox interview - the 9/11 commission report and Richard Clarke's book, "Against All Enemies: Inside America's War on Terror" - never mention plans to invade Afghanistan.

Originally published on September 26, 2006


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chriswallace; clintonfailures; clintonlegacy; clintonscandals; dirtyrats; fire; frantownsend; impeachedpotus; liar; lyingliars; michaelscheuer; on; outfoxed; pants; thebentone; usscole; x42

1 posted on 09/26/2006 9:05:49 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

Jay Carson......a Liar's paid liar.


2 posted on 09/26/2006 9:06:32 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: areafiftyone

why let facts get in the way of a good finger wagging...


3 posted on 09/26/2006 9:07:33 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info)
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To: areafiftyone
Considering that the only intimate details Clinton could point to were in Richard Clarke's book, I doubt Clinton at least the male one had a clue what was going on.

Wonder if the female one was the data dump in the White House after all she was co-president!!!
4 posted on 09/26/2006 9:08:08 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Suzy Quzy

Clinton remembered burning churches in Arkansas when he grew up, too. Not a single one was ever documented.


5 posted on 09/26/2006 9:08:44 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: areafiftyone

bump


6 posted on 09/26/2006 9:09:52 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Suzy Quzy

P.J. Crowley, spokesman for Clinton's National Security Council and a retired Air Force officer with a security clearance, said many contingency plans existed at the Pentagon.

"It wasn't that there was a lack of plans, it's that there was a lack of actionable intelligence," Crowley said.

Sounds like this Crowley is also a Bill Clinton Buttboy as well.


7 posted on 09/26/2006 9:10:26 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: areafiftyone
And just what was Sandy Burglar up to, replacing, stealing or adding documents to the National Archives?


8 posted on 09/26/2006 9:10:59 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: areafiftyone

Clinton sounded like a drowning fool flailing about for a lifeboat; every word he spoke reeked with the stench of untruth.


9 posted on 09/26/2006 9:11:23 AM PDT by brain bleeds red
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To: areafiftyone


Clinton and Kerry have lots in common it would seem...


10 posted on 09/26/2006 9:11:56 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: areafiftyone

What a pathetic POTUS he was... Almost as pathetic as Carter!!! (see my tagline)


11 posted on 09/26/2006 9:12:01 AM PDT by SierraWasp (To be fair, Bill Clinton did more than any other President to protect us from the Branch Davidians!)
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To: TexasCajun

I see a tripod in your future! LOL


12 posted on 09/26/2006 9:12:07 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: areafiftyone

I had a really crappy morning - all these Clinton stories have cheered me right up!

The 'toons are collapsing under the weight of their own crap!


13 posted on 09/26/2006 9:12:20 AM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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To: areafiftyone
_________________________________________________

"Al qaeda grew while Monica blew"


14 posted on 09/26/2006 9:12:59 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: areafiftyone
From Richard Miniter's book, Losing Bin Laden...

Chapter 11: The Attack on the U.S.S. Cole

15 posted on 09/26/2006 9:14:55 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

Gary Schroen who wrote Jawbreaker was on with Blitzer yesterday and he said Clinton KNEW that bin Laden was responsible for the Cole bombing in December of 2000.


16 posted on 09/26/2006 9:17:47 AM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: Howlin
From Dec. 7, 2000....

U.S. finds link between bin Laden and Cole bombing

17 posted on 09/26/2006 9:20:18 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Maybe seared in his brain.


18 posted on 09/26/2006 9:21:53 AM PDT by TweetEBird007
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To: mewzilla

Well, well; yet another lie to add to the pile.


19 posted on 09/26/2006 9:22:43 AM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: areafiftyone

"Yeah, thats the ticket! We had a plan to take him out but those idiots didn't do it".


And they wonder why the military hates them.


20 posted on 09/26/2006 9:23:54 AM PDT by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: areafiftyone
"The only order we got from [Clinton] after the Cole was to put together a target list for air attacks," said Michael Scheuer, who led the CIA's hunt for Osama Bin Laden under Clinton.

"What I was involved in could in no way be called a full-fledged plan to attack and overthrow the Taliban," he said.

<SNIP>

Scheuer, who wrote the book "Imperial Hubris," said he met every 10 days with top members of Clinton's anti-terror team and plans for an invasion were never presented or discussed.

He also lashed out at Clinton for blaming subordinates for the failure to get Bin Laden, saying they had 10 chances to kill or capture the terror kingpin before 9/11.

"I was responsible for sending men and women into harm's way to get information he didn't use," Scheuer added.

Fran Townsend, a former top intelligence adviser in Clinton's Justice Department and now Bush's anti-terror czar, rolled her eyes when asked about Clinton's invasion plan.

"There were lots of things that seemed new" in Clinton's recollections on Fox, Townsend said.

History is showing that the main preoccupation of The Bent One during his days squatting in the White House was to unzip his fly and drop his pants around his ankles. To hell with the needs of the country.

21 posted on 09/26/2006 9:24:28 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: areafiftyone

bookmark bump


22 posted on 09/26/2006 9:26:07 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Howlin; All
For a concise rundown on just what Bubba didn't deo to get Bin Laden, click on the following link....

Clinton’s Loss? How the previous administration fumbled on bin Laden.

...and scroll down.

Miniter makes 16, count 'em, 16 points.

23 posted on 09/26/2006 9:26:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: wmileo

No, I don't think that Crowley is necessarily a shill for Clinton. The Pentagon has contingency plans for everything. It would be remarkable if it did not have plans in 2000 for the invasion of Afghanistan, the invasion of Iraq, the invasion of Iran, the invasion of France....

Everything few years, the story of US plans to invade Canada, ca 1920, is resurrected.


24 posted on 09/26/2006 9:27:14 AM PDT by bagman
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To: mewzilla

I've posted that article about 50 times in the last month........LOL.


25 posted on 09/26/2006 9:30:31 AM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: areafiftyone
In his fiery interview on "Fox News Sunday," Clinton claimed he did more than President Bush to get Bin Laden before 9/11, disclosing that he had a secret plan to invade Afghanistan and wipe out the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

A double super-dee-duper secret plan.

26 posted on 09/26/2006 9:30:36 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: areafiftyone

Sorry, but this article is pure BS. Clinton left the Bush administration with a highly effective plan which would allow the terrorists to attrit themselves 19 at a time.


27 posted on 09/26/2006 9:31:39 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Howlin

Well, if we can find all this info, what's the MSM's excuse?


28 posted on 09/26/2006 9:32:18 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Prince Charles

Yup. Even his so-called advisors know he's lying. They are not going to let him get away with it.


29 posted on 09/26/2006 9:32:38 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: bagman
Everything few years, the story of US plans to invade Canada, ca 1920, is resurrected.

Heh. We can put that one on hold for awhile; Stephen Harper has brought Canada back to the adults' table. Many thanks, Canada!

30 posted on 09/26/2006 9:33:48 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"Clinton remembered burning churches in Arkansas when he grew up, too. Not a single one was ever documented."

He'd blame the CIA and FBI for that too no doubt.

31 posted on 09/26/2006 9:34:02 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: areafiftyone
"I was responsible for sending men and women into harm's way to get information (Bill Clinton) didn't use." - Michael Scheuer
32 posted on 09/26/2006 9:35:12 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

In the same drawer where Gore's Global Warming Plan amd Kerry's Iraq Plan reside. Of course it's Demo-secretions so the Slimes and Compost would never reveal their contents!


33 posted on 09/26/2006 9:35:33 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: areafiftyone

BUBBA the BOOB.....! ( Can we say Boob? )


34 posted on 09/26/2006 9:35:46 AM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: areafiftyone

Bill Clinton was impeached and disbarred for perjury. He is a documented lying sack of Sh*t. This is all anyone needs to know.


35 posted on 09/26/2006 9:36:35 AM PDT by BadAndy ("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
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To: Suzy Quzy
"A plan existed, but the ability to act on it was not corroborated by intelligence until after President Clinton left office," said Clinton spokesman Jay Carson.

Well, it's probably safe now - Mr. Carson describe the specifics of the impeached former president's "plan." Tell us about what you knew, when you were planning to strike, the means of attack and, of course define success.

36 posted on 09/26/2006 9:38:01 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: areafiftyone

"...disclosing that he had a secret plan to invade Afghanistan and wipe out the Taliban and Al Qaeda."

It was so secret he could not tell anyone about it???


37 posted on 09/26/2006 9:40:27 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God is giving you countless observable clues of His existence!)
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To: wmileo

That part is true.

The pentagon is suppose to have lots of plans for various scenarios ready to execute.

As Grenada showed us. not all plans are good


38 posted on 09/26/2006 9:40:38 AM PDT by art_rocks
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To: areafiftyone
""It wasn't that there was a lack of plans, it's that there was a lack of actionable intelligence," Crowley said"

And this statement was supposed to defend the inaction of the Clinton Presidency? Sounds more like an indictment on the ineffectiveness of Bubba's intelligence community. It also reveals how Clinton was approaching terrorism as a civil matter that needed irrefutable evidence before prosecuting the enemy.

Clinton's Presidency was not only a complete failure, it did great harm to our country through his innaction, incompetence, and WRONG action. The only thing that ever held up the Clinton Presidency was the media. If the media reported truthfully he'd have been a disgraced, one-term President, and the damage he did would have been minimal.

39 posted on 09/26/2006 9:41:41 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: areafiftyone

Chickens coming home to roost!


40 posted on 09/26/2006 9:44:01 AM PDT by MJemison
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To: bagman

IIRC, he's a liberal.


41 posted on 09/26/2006 9:53:30 AM PDT by IrishRainy (The only way BJ Clinton would have nailed bin Laden is if Ossama had been a White House intern.)
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To: MJemison
I thought Bush did follow clintons plan, it was Called the Iraq liberation act

The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 provides additional, discretionary authorities under which my Administration can act to further the objectives I outlined above. There are, of course, other important elements of U.S. policy. These include the maintenance of U.N. Security Council support efforts to eliminate Iraq's weapons and missile programs and economic sanctions that continue to deny the regime the means to reconstitute those threats to international peace and security. United States support for the Iraqi opposition will be carried out consistent with those policy objectives as well. Similarly, U.S. support must be attuned to what the opposition can effectively make use of as it develops over time. With those observations, I sign H.R. 4655 into law.

WILLIAM J. CLINTON

THE WHITE HOUSE,

October 31, 1998.

42 posted on 09/26/2006 9:53:58 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: areafiftyone
"A plan existed, but the ability to act on it was not corroborated by intelligence until after President Clinton left office," said Clinton spokesman Jay Carson.

Read: I thought the dog ate my homework, but after Clinton left office, I found it!

43 posted on 09/26/2006 10:02:12 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Clinton "tried", 3000 died)
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To: areafiftyone

Considering that the Daily News shills for the Democrats, this is pretty strong stuff. The bottom of the article tends to retract some of the points made earlier, but the headline and the top of the article are very negative on clinton.

The Daily News used to be in hillary's pocket, but this is one of many articles suggesting that they no longer want to serve her slavishly the way they used to.


44 posted on 09/26/2006 10:23:42 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Oh I'm sure Clinton had plans. Micromanager that he was he had developed them in his own mind and fearing leaks, kept them to himself for just the right time to set them in motion.


45 posted on 09/26/2006 10:36:15 AM PDT by Edison (I don't know what irks me more, whether they lied or the incompetence.)
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To: areafiftyone

"It wasn't that there was a lack of plans, it's that there was a lack of actionable intelligence," Crowley said.

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So, these idiots made a "plan" without intelligence? Shooting in the dark?


46 posted on 09/26/2006 10:46:53 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: areafiftyone
Clinton did nothing after the first attack on the World Trade Center. And he carried that approach all the way through his entire presidency.

Hell, Clinton was more interested in chasing skirts, punishing Microsoft for being too successful, and violating the rights of Americans from Washington to Waco at every opportunity. And that crooked bastard was offered bin Laden on more than one opportunity and turned the offer down every time.

What a filthy, lying, festering piece of pig crap.


47 posted on 09/26/2006 10:47:13 AM PDT by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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To: mewzilla

Thank you for that post. That chapter is just staggering. It proves the tantrum we saw on TV was just a great big lie! Did more to get bin Laden..........I don't think so.


48 posted on 09/26/2006 12:30:48 PM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: wmileo

P.J. is now B.J. Crowley.


49 posted on 09/26/2006 1:24:56 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: areafiftyone
VIRTUAL KILL
THE CHRIS WALLACE-BILL CLINTON INTERVIEW DECONSTRUCTED
HEAR:

DECONSTRUCTED INTERVIEW
(click image to play--analysis below image)


50 posted on 09/30/2006 11:22:33 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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