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Inside Info: Is Larry Sabato a partisan in disguise?
self | 09-27-06 | WL-Law

Posted on 09/27/2006 9:53:22 AM PDT by WL-law

Many are questioning whether Larry Sabato's issued, then modified, then somewhat-withdrawn accusations against Sen. Allen amount to Sabato unmasking himself as a democrat partisan, posing as an impartial observer.

I can add one new fact that I have personal knowledge of, one that is somewhat curious, and potentially relevant.

Here it is: the person that Allen referred to as "Macaca", the person who was stalking the Allen campaign, is one of Sabato's students, in Sabato's class at UVA. I don't know whether this fact has been disclosed anywhere.

Hmmmmmmm.............


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1 posted on 09/27/2006 9:53:23 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: WL-law

Sabato's mask was ripped off in the runup to the 2004 election.


2 posted on 09/27/2006 9:54:23 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Howlin

ping


3 posted on 09/27/2006 9:54:31 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey McCain and Graham .... our soldiers signed up to dodge bullets not lawsuits)
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To: WL-law; Darnright; Gabz; Corin Stormhands

WOW!


4 posted on 09/27/2006 9:55:39 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: onyx

Disguise, my foot.


5 posted on 09/27/2006 9:56:17 AM PDT by musikman
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To: WL-law

I disclosed it on FR quite a while ago...others may have as well.

Sabato requires students seeking to get into one of his senior courses to write an essay as a condition for entrance.

Sabato received one essay one day that was quite short: "I am Macaca."

That got the young man into Sabato's course.


6 posted on 09/27/2006 9:56:44 AM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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To: WL-law

I don't think Sabato's wearing any disguise. He's always been left of center. I don't consider him to be a real left wing moonbat but he's a partisan.


7 posted on 09/27/2006 9:56:45 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: WL-law

He worked a liberal democrat's campaign in the 70s per Mark Levin.

http://marklevinfan.com/?p=1505


8 posted on 09/27/2006 9:57:37 AM PDT by Perdogg (If you stay home in November, you will elect Pelosi speaker)
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To: wideawake

Even before. Sabato wasn't exactly "impartial" during the Impeachment of Bubba. Think back on it.


9 posted on 09/27/2006 9:57:43 AM PDT by wastoute
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To: musikman

This is dynamite. Sabado never mentioned he knew this guy, yet he talks about George Allen's campaign.


10 posted on 09/27/2006 9:58:08 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: onyx

We need to do one of those "whos-who" networks to put this all together.

We have Doug Thompson as close friends with Steve Jarding the Webb spokesperson. We know Mudcat Saunders has connections in North Carolina where Dr. "deer head" shelton lives. We think Larry sabato calls both Shelton and Taylor friends who he knew in college.

We have Larry teaching Sidarth (did he recommend Siddarth to the Webb campaign this summer?)

We have Shelton's wife saying "they told us not to talk to Fox". Who is "they", Shelton was supposed to be operating on his own.


11 posted on 09/27/2006 9:59:11 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

We need you on the George Allen for Senate threads.

I am stunned by the duplicity.


12 posted on 09/27/2006 10:00:27 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: WL-law

Larry Saboteur is a transparent hack for the dems. This too will blow up in their ignorant faces.


13 posted on 09/27/2006 10:01:07 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (The dems. can't have a fool-proof plan. There would be no one left in their base.)
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To: WL-law

Larry Sabato, an oft-quoted political commentator who teaches a small seminar on campaigns and elections, said he asked students to write an essay as part of the admission process.

Eighty people applied for the course, including Sidarth. His essay was three words, but it was enough to clinch one of the 20 coveted spots in the class.

"I am Macaca," he wrote.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003226858_student26.html


14 posted on 09/27/2006 10:01:53 AM PDT by maggief
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To: WL-law

I guess we must laugh at the "republican pollster" notion


15 posted on 09/27/2006 10:02:36 AM PDT by slowhand520
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To: wideawake

To folks who live in Virginia, Sabato's mask was ripped off looooong before that. When he was at VCU he was leaning pretty far left in his predictions and analysis, and that was many years ago (back in the Doug Wilder days, I think). I wasn't even that politically active when I lived here 10-15 years ago, and I knew even back then that Sabato was a liberal and slanted things accordingly. I was rather surprised to hear that he'd moved up to UVa and had become a media "go-to" guy on politics, considering his track record here was never all that great.

}:-)4


16 posted on 09/27/2006 10:04:15 AM PDT by Moose4 (They caught me white and nerdy.)
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To: WL-law

If he is on TV commenting on politics and being introduced as an "expert", a "Professor", or an author of some study, then he is a Dem.


17 posted on 09/27/2006 10:08:43 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Moose4

He was an undergraduate star at UVA. I'm not surprised in the least that he went back. They probably courted him to return.


18 posted on 09/27/2006 10:10:06 AM PDT by twigs
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To: maggief

Well, per your post I guess the connection has been publicized -- I didn't know that. Nonetheless, it's curious that "Macaca", and now Sabato, are both trying to submarine the Allen campaign.


19 posted on 09/27/2006 10:11:19 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: WL-law
More investigatng going on in this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1709245/posts?page=101,22
20 posted on 09/27/2006 10:12:29 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Vote as if your life depends on it -- because it does!!!)
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To: WL-law

He is a gay liberal.

LLS


21 posted on 09/27/2006 10:12:33 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Corin Stormhands

fyi


22 posted on 09/27/2006 10:13:41 AM PDT by jla
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To: WL-law

I was of the impression Sabato's "disguise" was torn from his face years ago. This, however, should prove the stake through the heart of Sabato's supposed impartiality.


23 posted on 09/27/2006 10:25:48 AM PDT by NCPAC
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To: onyx

The only campaign donation I could find on Sabato was $500 in '99 for a democrat running for Congress. Real researchers could perhaps find more.


24 posted on 09/27/2006 10:29:18 AM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: daybreakcoming


Hey, that's excellent research!


25 posted on 09/27/2006 10:34:13 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: onyx

Ol Larry needs to go down......has anyone contacted Rush or Hannity?


26 posted on 09/27/2006 10:43:22 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: mystery-ak


Not that I know of.


27 posted on 09/27/2006 10:45:41 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: mystery-ak

Rush is taking Larry to the woodshed even as I type. :)


28 posted on 09/27/2006 10:46:36 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: WL-law
Some disguise.


29 posted on 09/27/2006 10:46:40 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: holdonnow; A Citizen Reporter; Miss Marple


Such duplicity.


30 posted on 09/27/2006 10:48:00 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: CFC__VRWC; onyx

I belong to Rush's 24/7...I just sent him a private e-mail and a link to this thread.....


31 posted on 09/27/2006 10:48:19 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: mystery-ak


OK -- excellent.


32 posted on 09/27/2006 10:49:06 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: WL-law

Has anybody ever been in doubt where Larry Sabato's sympathies lie? If he has, he hasn't been paying attention.


33 posted on 09/27/2006 10:56:46 AM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: WL-law

Who at Fox do we complain to?

Sabato can't be part of their "fair and balanced" reporting.

It makes a mockery of the term.

They can have Larry on when they want a Dem operative to push the Dem viewpoint.


34 posted on 09/27/2006 10:59:32 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: WL-law

Larry Sabato has jumped the shark.

As an academic, he should have known better to say anything about George Allen and the n-word unless he had knowledge of how Allen's opponent rates on the same variable. If Chris Matthews were not such a biased windbag, he would have asked him "What about Jim Webb?" Sabato would have been forced to admit that for all he knew, Jim Webb's record is as bad or worse than what is being alleged about George Allen on this topic.

Sabato really owes an apology to the Allen campaign (and his colleagues) for his lapse of objectivity.


35 posted on 09/27/2006 11:14:31 AM PDT by freespirited (Have you hugged a terrorist today? 1-800-JMC-CAIN)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Corin Stormhands; Dems_R_Losers; Howlin; A Citizen Reporter

Guys, I thought you needed to see CharlesWayneCT's comment in #11 on this thread. I don't know if you have this information.


36 posted on 09/27/2006 11:38:27 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Doug Thompson, THE Doug Thompson??


37 posted on 09/27/2006 11:38:53 AM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: Miss Marple

Is that the Doug Thompson we know?


38 posted on 09/27/2006 11:40:41 AM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: Howlin

I don't know. If it is the one we all know and love, the ham-handedness and thuggishness of this attack is easy to understand.


39 posted on 09/27/2006 11:41:32 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Miss Marple

Doug Thompson, the DOCUMENTED liar?


40 posted on 09/27/2006 11:42:01 AM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: Howlin; kcvl
I think I will ping kcvl, who is much better than I am at searching.

I am going to go see what I can find out.

41 posted on 09/27/2006 11:42:22 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Howlin
Here they are, pictured together, as leaders of a seminar on campaign management. Jarding is the one without the beard.

Washington Center for Politics and Journalism, September 2006

42 posted on 09/27/2006 11:47:25 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Howlin; A Citizen Reporter
Here's Doug Thompson bragging about being an old friend of Steve Jarding.

Doug Thompson's self-important web site

43 posted on 09/27/2006 11:50:49 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Howlin; A Citizen Reporter
Steve Jardin and Dave "Mudcat" Saunders have co-authored a book:


44 posted on 09/27/2006 12:04:53 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: WL-law
>Many are questioning whether Larry Sabato's issued, then modified, then somewhat-withdrawn accusations against Sen. Allen amount to Sabato unmasking himself as a democrat partisan<

"Larry!! Larry?? Come out of the Democrat closet!!!


45 posted on 09/27/2006 12:52:56 PM PDT by Darnright (http://media.putfile.com/Webb-on-Allen)
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To: WL-law
"...the person that Allen referred to as "Macaca", the person who was stalking the Allen campaign, is one of Sabato's students, in Sabato's class at UVA. I don't know whether this fact has been disclosed anywhere."

DING DING.... we have a winner..... when will the DBM bother to research Sabato's student, Doug Thompson, Sabato himself...... this sounds like a real "Borking" (or even worse) by the libs.
46 posted on 09/27/2006 1:54:05 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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To: Miss Marple
[DOUG THOMPSON]: "Each year at this time I make the trek to DC for an appearance at The Washington Center for Politics and Journalism. Terry Michael, who runs the program, is an old friend as is Steve Jarding, an "adjunct lecturer in public policy" for the Kennedy School at Harvard who also ran Mark Warner's successful campaign for governor a few years back. Steve and I have been doing this road show for the center to talk about political campaign management to a group of interns for Washington-based media and news organizations with bureaus in the city."
47 posted on 09/27/2006 1:56:12 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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To: Enchante

UNfortunately, I don't know if he was a student before this fall. He got into Larry's class this fall because of the macaca incident.


48 posted on 09/27/2006 2:11:23 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Miss Marple; Howlin

Not Doug Thompson again. If there a dirty smear campaign, Doug Thompson will be part of it. He's the new Terry Lenzer.


49 posted on 09/27/2006 2:22:45 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("And you got that little smirk on your face, and you think you're so clever!")
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To: Moose4

I'll never forget Sabato and that moron Gene Cox on WWBT during one election (I forget which) where the Republicans were doing well. I thought those two were going to start blubbering on camera!


50 posted on 09/27/2006 2:27:18 PM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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