Posted on 09/27/2006 9:56:09 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
No. I do however think this particular reference is. I could care less who it came from, I still think it's wrong.
Yes, a quote from a Darwinist is considered evidence. I made no qualitative judgment.
You did when you said that this is not connected to the conclusions of the author. It cannot simultaneously be held as evidence in support of his assertions and totally unconnected to them.
What "statement" are you talking about? One I neither made not support?
I've take issue with the following statement made by the author of the article- "The truth is Darwinism is not a scientific theory, but a materialistic creation myth masquerading as science. It is first and foremost a weapon against religion".
I've never claimed you made it. You've avoided endorsing or challenging it outright but you have consistently challenged both the questions and arguments I have in opposition to it, and my qualifications and right to do so. Is your problem with my opinion, or with my assuming the right to express it?
Yes but you implied I said or defended this statement - which I do not - you are wrong.
If you're not defending it, why are you attacking me for questioning it?
Why not present quotes (supporting evidence) with your accusations?
My "accusations" are that the author does not appear to have sufficient evidence to support his assertions, and the logical consequences of the conclusions. The "supporting evidence" for my argument is the absence of evidence in the article. What kind of "quotes" do you think I need to provide?
Nonsense. I just pointed out he did provide some sort of supporting evidence for his statement - that is all I said. I am not supporting the statement of the author.
It cannot simultaneously be held as evidence in support of his assertions and totally unconnected to them.
You are not making sense now. We were talking evidence for the positions in the article - not line by line comparisons. The author presented evidence and then took a position nine paragraphs later (the paragraphs all contain what the author seems to think is support for his position) - the totality of the evidence is used for the position. You tried to claim the conclusion had a one-to-one relationship with that one piece of evidence - you were wrong.
You really do like to pick the nit
I think it was because some of your statements were factually incorrect.
Here is the topic of this sub-thread (paraphrased):
Evo: This aricle is full of lies
LVD: Please show us these lies
Evo: "Evolution is not anti-religion"
LVD: That is an invalid position based on information in the article.
Because your questioning was illogical. Question all you want just try not to use fallacious logic.
Apparently I have misunderstood the purpose of the thread. I assumed it was to discuss the content of the article. Apparently it is actually just supposed to be flame bait in yet another battle in the crevo wars.
You are amazing. Can you read?
The topic of the thread is the article - some Evo's claim it is full of lies but have failed to produce evidence of one lie. That topic directly relates to the article. My position is the evidence provided by the Evo side of the debate was illogical and invalid. Please explain why you think that has nothing to do with the content of the article (unless this was meant to be another empty accusation)
Apparently it is actually just supposed to be flame bait in yet another battle in the crevo wars.
Now you are just making a fool out of yourself.
The author makes statements with no apparent supporting evidence. What is illogical about questioning what those statements are based on?
The Gould quote is evidence whether you like it or not.
And you equate my asking for what evidence he has to back up his statements with claiming his statements are a lie?
You are not the only person in this thread.
Strangely, none of your replies to me have been directed to anyone else.
Since you don't seem to be able to say specifically what it is about my question you disagree with, have you simply decided to irritate me as some kind of demonstration to everyone else?
So? You jumped into the middle of the thread - I merely replied to your statements. My point was you are not the only one on the Evo side that is talking positions so all statements do not necessarily apply to you personally.
Since you don't seem to be able to say specifically what it is about my question you disagree with you disagree with
Which question are you talking about now?
BTW: how does one disagree with a question?
have you simply decided to irritate me as some kind of demonstration to everyone else?
Like I said - it is not all about you.
Bozo was singular.
And of course you're not a creo. No one is. LOL
And I'm done with you.
You started the attacks.
LVD claims he's not a creo. :)
I'm one... I KNOW God exists, beyond that, I don't know if he has a plan or not.
Yes.
Oh! You got me - although it was two days ago.
OK, here we go:
Would you feel comfortable having surgery if your anesthesiologist started talking about the aliens who are stealing his thoughts?
No.
So?
Did Wells claim his thoughts were being stolen?
Did not
Did not
Did not
Do you have a point?
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