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Why Darwinism Is Doomed
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| 09/27/2006
| Jonathan Wells
Posted on 09/27/2006 9:56:09 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: Last Visible Dog
You are a real blow-hard. I went back to the post of which you claim I took you out of context - you are so full of it - I quoted the entire paragraph.
Lets review:
#160
mugs99: "I'm a Deist. We are agnostics. We believe that the question of God's existence isn't answerable. To answer the question of God's existence would require proof. Do you have that proof?"
ROFL!
You tell me that you didn't take it out of context then you make this asinine post showing that you did take it out of context!
CONTEXT:
Luka_Brazi: "Deists believe that a creator created the world, set it in motion, and then stepped back. The deist's God is not a personal God. They are not agnostics though; agnostics believe that it is not possible to know if there is or isn't a God".
Mugs99: Lol!
Your dodging. You said: "He was an agnostic, not a Unitarian, meaning he didn't think the question of God's existence was answerable." You went from not answerable to not possible. In any case, Darwin believed in intelligent design and evolution.
"I am inclined to look at everything as resulting from designed laws, with the details, whether good or bad, left to the working out of what we may call chance."... Charles Darwin
That is the way all Deists look at everything.
I'm a Deist. We are agnostics. We believe that the question of God's existence isn't answerable. To answer the question of God's existence would require proof. Do you have that proof?
The context is Luka_Brazi's attempt to define a Deist to refute the possibility that Darwin was a Deist. My reply that God's existence isn't answerable is a direct reference to the previous post and quote...And my statement stands. To answer the question of God's existence would require proof. Darwin can not answer the question. I can not answer the question. You can not answer the question, unless you have proof...Do you?
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posted on
09/27/2006 4:43:11 PM PDT
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
To: stands2reason
There are gnostic deists.
I haven't met any...but would like to!
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posted on
09/27/2006 4:45:27 PM PDT
by
mugs99
(Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
To: Buck W.
Buck,
You never really ever answered my original question. But you put forth a claim. I simply asked you what Christianity - in your view - was based on if not the scriptures? If you do not wish to share any of the thought that leads you to that statement, you have that right.
best to you,
ampu
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posted on
09/27/2006 4:46:23 PM PDT
by
aMorePerfectUnion
(outside a good dog, a book is your best friend. inside a dog it's too dark to read)
To: MeanWestTexan
That is a valid point. That is why I try to ALWAYS keep it respectful and avoid name calling. It is about the facts at hand.
Generally speaking, I used to limit my attendance on crevo threads to the first 200 posts. But I have noticed a strong trend in favor of the creationists in the last few months. The evo "spam" is less and less effective as the "baffle them with bs" ploy. It makes it more interesting and all parties are welcome.
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posted on
09/27/2006 4:52:46 PM PDT
by
RobRoy
To: upcountryhorseman
Darwin himself said that if transitionals were not found his theory would be in question.
It is fortunate for his theory, then, that transitional fossils have been found.
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posted on
09/27/2006 4:57:10 PM PDT
by
Dimensio
(http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
To: BrandtMichaels
I understand what you are saying, I understand your arguments, and I disagree with them.
I think that you're naive (possibly a factor of youth?).
In any event, we both believe in Jesus, so let's stop there.
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posted on
09/27/2006 4:57:41 PM PDT
by
Al Simmons
(Holocaust deniers and other anti-semites are the lowest form of human scum.)
To: Coyoteman
Things to ponder:
At the current rate of progress, in a generation or so, gene therapies may become available that promise to raise IQ by perhaps 1 std deviation. However, if a side effect is an increase in scientific comprehension and a reduction in mystical belief, how many people will volunteer?
How wide will the wealth gap grow as more intelligent, educated professional classes continue to generate higher incomes and intra-breed? Could this behaviour eventually lead to a new form of human species? At some point in the future, would IDers follow Neanderthals into extinction?
To: SirLinksalot
Seems like Darwinism is about as doomed as the War on Drugs...I keep reading where it's doomed but every morning it's still there and nothings changed.
To: stands2reason
"Most of them end up as bitter atheists."
Most of whom? Kids who are raised to believe a lie and then leave the faith as a result?
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posted on
09/27/2006 4:59:48 PM PDT
by
Al Simmons
(Holocaust deniers and other anti-semites are the lowest form of human scum.)
To: Chuck Dent
At the current rate of progress, in a generation or so, gene therapies may become available that promise to raise IQ by perhaps 1 std deviation. However, if a side effect is an increase in scientific comprehension and a reduction in mystical belief, how many people will volunteer? How wide will the wealth gap grow as more intelligent, educated professional classes continue to generate higher incomes and intra-breed? Could this behaviour eventually lead to a new form of human species? At some point in the future, would IDers follow Neanderthals into extinction?
Another factor to consider: increase in wealth and intelligence often results in declining birth rates. Many western countries are below replacement levels, and are only kept at a stable or rising rate by immigration. Countries with little to no immigration (Russia) are declining in population.
What would that do to the mix?
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posted on
09/27/2006 5:04:19 PM PDT
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: bornacatholic
Excellent link! Bookmarked for future reference! Thanks!
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posted on
09/27/2006 5:05:57 PM PDT
by
Al Simmons
(Holocaust deniers and other anti-semites are the lowest form of human scum.)
To: My2Cents
To: MeanWestTexan
"My point is that the entire "Crevo" dispute is a distraction, and the venom and back-and-forth has done more to drive thinking people from inquiring about Christianity than anything in recent history, aside from Communism."
Excellently put. (I envy you. I miss good ole San Antone where I spent 8 years on active duty....)
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posted on
09/27/2006 5:09:21 PM PDT
by
Al Simmons
(Holocaust deniers and other anti-semites are the lowest form of human scum.)
To: finnman69
These creationist goons make thinking conservatives look bad. Reagan was a creationist.
Most of those posting on FR are creationist/IDers
Most of those posting on the Daily Kos, however, are Darwinist.
To: SirLinksalot
The one statement is a gem: "
The truth is Darwinism is not a scientific theory, but a materialistic creation myth masquerading as science."
Thanks for the post!
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posted on
09/27/2006 5:12:39 PM PDT
by
bvw
To: Tribune7
"Most of those posting on FR are creationist/IDers"
This is a HIGHLY dubious point. If anything the ratio seems to be about even, in my own experience.
How about this:
Most people posting on FR believe in God. Most people posting on DU don't.
Believing in God and accepting the theory of evolution as proven fact are NOT mutually exclusive beliefs - otherwise half of FR must be godless, which I personally know is not the case....
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posted on
09/27/2006 5:12:45 PM PDT
by
Al Simmons
(Holocaust deniers and other anti-semites are the lowest form of human scum.)
To: Tribune7
Further clarification: Many (most) of those Freepers who accept evolution as fact believe in "ID" in the sense that God was, and must be the creator, if you believe he exists. What we do not accept is the attempt of some to "put God in a box" and define Him and His creation by a simple-minded (mis)understanding of Biblical geneology....
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posted on
09/27/2006 5:15:21 PM PDT
by
Al Simmons
(Holocaust deniers and other anti-semites are the lowest form of human scum.)
To: aMorePerfectUnion
I'm not trying to vex you, but I will answer by asking what you mean by "based on"? I will answer that, of course, Christianity is "based on" scripture, but I do not hold to the literal truth of each word and event. You do, and hence you would define "based on" as something much more strict and literal.
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posted on
09/27/2006 5:17:08 PM PDT
by
Buck W.
(If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
To: Liberal Classic
I'm appalled at the number of freepers ready to shill for the Moonies just because of this issue.
FReepers are smart enough to differentiate between bad and good. People can hold both bad and good ideas. Wells is no exception and neither are you and me.
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