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Why Darwinism Is Doomed
WorldNetDaily ^ | 09/27/2006 | Jonathan Wells

Posted on 09/27/2006 9:56:09 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

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To: ExtremeUnction

So it's devolved to this, hm? Ridiculing the Christian has become the in thing on FR.

I see you've been here only a couple of years.


341 posted on 09/27/2006 7:06:00 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: bondserv

Your post is condescending and closed-minded. You don't have nearly the knowledge of Jesus that you claim. The spouting of memorized scripture does not equate to spirituality or closeness to God.


342 posted on 09/27/2006 7:15:36 PM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: Admin Moderator
Why is this in news/activism?

There is not one shred of conservative or political news or call to action (activism) in this article.

We need a science & technology forum.

343 posted on 09/27/2006 7:23:15 PM PDT by NewLand (Always Remember September 11, 2001)
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To: metmom
Chemistry does not rely on the ToE. I've taken my share of college chemisty courses and the TOE never entered into them even once. It would be much more accurate to say that the ToE depended on chemistry.

In the area of Parmecueticals (spell check reminder to self), the combination of Biology, Genetics, Medicine, etc. all work together and are predicated on understanding what makes A affect B, all of which are based TToE. I was over simplifying, so thanks for the chance to expand a little.

As far as Bio, there's plenty to study there, too, that doesn't require the ToE at all. And I've taken those too, and while ToE is encountered more, the stuff I studied didn't *depend* on it.

You can also be a programmer and use SQL without understanding the Relational Model. But you'll always be just a programmer. I don't know if that analogy is helpful, but the point is that to try to really understand WHY what is happening, you need to understand the foundation (in this case TToE).

So how is Astronomy and Chemistry *anti-Genesis*?

Astronomy says that stars are billions of years old and are suns similar to our own Sol. For strict literalists, this is NOT what Genesis says. Chemistry suggests that there are changes from the setup that God established. Again, not what literal Genesis says.

I was being exemplary and a bit over the top in the case of Chemistry but am serious about astronomy.

344 posted on 09/27/2006 7:29:06 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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To: Buck W.

And here I said that with so many more words (see my 334 and 336).

;)


345 posted on 09/27/2006 7:30:25 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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To: NewLand

I mentioned that but was explained that these ARE news worthy ideas.

The dumbing down of America by the extreme Right Wing is very much a front and center issue and should not be isolated (although it does get relegated).


346 posted on 09/27/2006 7:31:44 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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To: grey_whiskers

Coll catch - but I didn't think of the Biblical connection. It was related to my post #114. I normally stay away from the creationist articles because there is simply too much pseudo-scientific mud to sort through. But I don't recall you ever getting deep into the mud pits like others have.

Cheers to you, too!


347 posted on 09/27/2006 7:33:33 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: freedumb2003
...Chemistry, both of which rely on TToE)

Pardon my French, but WTF?

The Pauli exclusion principle, quantum mechanics, and ionic bonding (for example) do not 'rely' on TToE...

Could you be more specific, or rephrase that, please?

(I might just have misread the post, or taken it out of context.)

Cheers!

348 posted on 09/27/2006 7:36:08 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: Theo
Ridiculing the Christian has become the in thing on FR.

Using Scripture in a discussion about Science is the same as using Scripture in a discussion about auto repair.

It may be interesting to YOU, but it is not germaine to the discussion. There are many faiths, each with their own Holy Text.

From an independent standpoint, none are superior, since all depend on faith.

That does NOT mean Christianity doesn't have a lot to offer. It just means it is not in play here.

349 posted on 09/27/2006 7:36:59 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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To: freedumb2003
I read it. You are trying to pretend to be magnanimous and say "well, as long as you accept Him it is OK. The fact you know little about Him (assumed "unlike me" and "because you understand science") isn't THAT important.

I got your meaning exactly

If my posting the pertinent passages makes you feel attacked, I apologize to you sincerely. My intention is always to highlight what the Bible actually says to remove confusion. Many people who have not spent time reading the Bible only have other peoples idea's of what the Bible says. I laid the scripture out there for all to see, rather than attempt to explain what the Bible says. The passages are abundant and straightforward in their declaration.

You are welcome to post the passages that demonstrate these mean something different than they say. I am open to having the Word of God straighten me out.

350 posted on 09/27/2006 7:39:28 PM PDT by bondserv (God governs our universe and has seen fit to offer us a pardon. †)
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To: grey_whiskers; metmom
I was little fast off the draw -- I mean it in concert with the other sciences which work together to make drugs. THAT chemistry needs TToE as a theoretical foundation.

Oh and DANG I forgot to spell check my response ;( I am SURE I misspelled Pharmaceuticals.

351 posted on 09/27/2006 7:40:38 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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To: Last Visible Dog

Anyone who joins a cult has suspect mental faculties, especially if he got into science because his "prophet" called him to do so.

Are you a Moonie or something?


352 posted on 09/27/2006 7:45:56 PM PDT by stands2reason (The map is not the territory - A. Korzybski)
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To: bondserv
My intention is always to highlight what the Bible actually says to remove confusion. Many people who have not spent time reading the Bible only have other peoples idea's of what the Bible says. I laid the scripture out there for all to see, rather than attempt to explain what the Bible says. The passages are abundant and straightforward in their declaration.

Your post was pretty heavy handed. You suggest that because you have memorized the words of the Scriptures (I assume in their original languages), that you are somehow excluded from human interpretation.

There are 2 issues here: 1) Scripture is not a source of science and 2) Genesis is open to interpretation (and is contradictary).

The fact people have and do interpret the Bible differently doesn't mean they are wrong.

353 posted on 09/27/2006 7:46:23 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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To: freedumb2003

Just call me terse! You said it better, though.


354 posted on 09/27/2006 7:46:33 PM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: My2Cents
100 years from now, our descendants will all be living in a North American caliphate, and this silly little debate won't be permitted.

Or they will be merely unable to read or write anything except Scripture and will depend on Mexico and Vietnam to provide all science and technology.

355 posted on 09/27/2006 7:47:44 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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To: Buck W.

Brevity is the soul of wit.


356 posted on 09/27/2006 7:48:11 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Critical Thinking"="I don't understand it so it must be wrong.")
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To: stands2reason

Yes it is.

The Lie: Evolution (Paperback)
by Ken Ham (Author)


357 posted on 09/27/2006 7:48:14 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever

aren't there more important things to be worried about?


359 posted on 09/27/2006 7:49:41 PM PDT by Uncle Billy ("A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away all you have")
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To: Last Visible Dog

Are they not supposed to be interested in other areas of science?

Why do creos call all science they don't like "evolution"?


360 posted on 09/27/2006 7:49:44 PM PDT by stands2reason (The map is not the territory - A. Korzybski)
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