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Why Darwinism Is Doomed
WorldNetDaily ^ | 09/27/2006 | Jonathan Wells

Posted on 09/27/2006 9:56:09 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

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To: tacticalogic
You have stated that you don't agree with or support the author's statements that I have questioned. Tell us why you believe the author of this article is wrong.

That is a rather interesting question? I have taken no position on the article therefore you demand I take a position? You definitely operate on bizarre logic.

Whatever. I will play your game

I see no evidence to support this claim by Wells: "The truth is Darwinism is not a scientific theory, but a materialistic creation myth masquerading as science. It is first and foremost a weapon against religion – especially traditional Christianity."

I would like to see valid objections to the content of the article - I think personal attacks on Wells are silly and claims that the article is full of lies without presenting any evidence are pointless.

Now I answered your question - are you going to state your position.

781 posted on 09/29/2006 1:28:31 PM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: stands2reason
If you can dish it out, you can take it.

Can you provide an example or is this yet another baseless empty accusation? Show me where I "dished it out"

782 posted on 09/29/2006 1:30:08 PM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Last Visible Dog
My position is that Wells has presented no evidence to support his conclusions, and I question whether such evidence actually exists.

The statement itself is an implicit indictment of both the authors and proponents of TToE and paints them as having constructed a fraudulent theory for the puppose of destroying religion, and I question why Wells would make such a statement without providing the evidence to back it up.

783 posted on 09/29/2006 2:05:53 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: js1138
Imagine my surprise to read his actual words and find that he says information theory proves Darwinian evolution.

As usual, I either skipped this or missed it somehow.

Can you point me in the right direction to read this?

784 posted on 09/29/2006 2:47:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: freedumb2003
(Opening note: Non Sequitur doesn't show up on spell check, bit of a pain since I admit to being spelling challenged at times)

But it IS one of my favorite cartoons!

785 posted on 09/29/2006 2:50:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: stands2reason
I'm one... I KNOW God exists, beyond that, I don't know if he has a plan or not.

Interesting...

HOW do you 'know' there is a GOD and yet NOT 'know' if he (HE?) has a plan???

786 posted on 09/29/2006 2:54:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Al Simmons
Given the vastness of the Universe, I am skeptical that God is involved in the minutiae of our everyday lives...

Then you, in your vast powers as a Human, have limited what your 'god' can do!

787 posted on 09/29/2006 2:56:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Al Simmons
I guess you can say that it seems to me that if one believes in God, you've got to admit that it sure looks like he let the system that He created run on its own, at least most of the time...

I do, however, tend to agree with this!

788 posted on 09/29/2006 2:57:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Last Visible Dog
Did anybody claim Gould became an atheist because of evolution?

Darwin became, if not an atheist, at least an agnostic.

789 posted on 09/29/2006 2:58:48 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Al Simmons
One day soon some of us will be sipping from the River of Life in Heaven while the rest of these Evo-chimps are scorched for eternity in Hell.

I wonder if they'll really, really feel that their choice of rebellion against God and His perfect Word was worth it then.

Go figure, huh? I guess it's worth it to pretend for a very short period that you know much more than God.

And that's the funny thing. Being wrong if one is a Christian costs one nothing (with the possible exception of having tried to live an exemplary life based upon one's Faith in Jesus Christ).

Those who kneel instead at the altar of Darwinism cannot say the same... what they risk for their twisted belief-structure (if they are wrong) is hardly worth the effort.

Pass the barbecue sauce...
:-o

790 posted on 09/29/2006 3:14:15 PM PDT by Gargantua (For those who believe in God, no explanation is needed; for those who do not, no explanation exists.)
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To: ml1954

I think you are trying to say *unique* evidence, not just evidence.

That was the point of Sir Fred Hoyle's quote:

"We know that the difference between a heliocentric theory and a geocentric theory is one of relative motion only, and that such a difference has no physical significance."

Sir Fred Hoyle, Astronomy and Cosmology, 1975, p. 416, (Quoted in Spring, 02 BA, p.64.)

Do you understand what 'no physical significance' means?


791 posted on 09/29/2006 3:18:42 PM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: Last Visible Dog
"So you brag about your experience in logical analysis and then you make up statements that I never said and use them to support your nonsense conclusion. What happened to all your experience?"

Dude, I'm starting to worry about you. I suggest you check Post 726. It has your name on it. So, either I'm hallucinating, or someone has pinched your nic....

792 posted on 09/29/2006 3:27:24 PM PDT by Al Simmons (Finding God does not excuse you from using the analytical part of your brain... that He gave you....)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

'Millenia of erosion' is, of course, consistent with a 6,000 year old earth. 'Millenia' being 1,000 years. I think you meant something different, but you did not state it correctly. Or perhaps you meant YEC because that's what you said.

And please, don't give us the 'evolution is teleological' argument. Evolution is not teleological and has no bias toward complexity.

Conspiracy is not required. Merely an 'a priori' assumption of naturalism. This *requires* long ages simply because 'evolution' cannot create humans in 6,000 years.

Faith in the unseen (abiogenesis, big bang, millions of years) is required for all religions, even pantheism.

You merely say that you believe that you must limit your acceptable theories to naturalistic ones. That's fine. You admit what most don't. In the end, it is a metaphysical choice. One that will definitely return the wrong answer if, in fact, you are observing a supernatural creation.

Are you able to understand that your metaphysical choice will return an incorrect answer if you are actually looking at a supernatural creation?


793 posted on 09/29/2006 3:29:22 PM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: Elsie
"'Given the vastness of the Universe, I am skeptical that God is involved in the minutiae of our everyday lives...'

Then you, in your vast powers as a Human, have limited what your 'god' can do!"Touche!

794 posted on 09/29/2006 3:29:34 PM PDT by Al Simmons (Finding God does not excuse you from using the analytical part of your brain... that He gave you....)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Again, this metaphysical decision on your part will guarantee an incorrect conclusion if you are, in fact, trying to understand a supernatural creation.

Do you understand the limitation that you have placed on yourself?


795 posted on 09/29/2006 3:32:31 PM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: Gargantua
Yeah, well Gargantua, I happen to "know" Jesus personally (as you would understand it), so you must be barking up the wrong tree....

I do not kneel at the altar of man, but only at the altar of God.

OBTW, some of the biggest knives in my back were placed there by people who concealed their (lack of) character behind an avalanche of 'born-again' lingo.

My advice to you is this: treat others as you would want to be treated, and you will bring people to a knowledge of The Word; open your mouth and you will drive them away.

This elemental rule applies to 90% of so-called evangelicals, many of whom (obviously) have not gained the "gift of discernment" judging by some of their statements...like yours above, for example...

796 posted on 09/29/2006 3:34:48 PM PDT by Al Simmons (Finding God does not excuse you from using the analytical part of your brain... that He gave you....)
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To: GourmetDan

I think you are trying to say *unique* evidence, not just evidence.

You think wrong. Now please tell us all what evidence you have for your belief that the earth is the center of the universe.

797 posted on 09/29/2006 3:39:38 PM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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To: Gargantua

As usual, someone comes along, such as you have done and decides who will and who will not go to Hell...you have no authority, and no power...all your have is your own wishful thinking...which of course, counts for nothing at all...


798 posted on 09/29/2006 3:59:17 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: Gargantua
And that's the funny thing. Being wrong if one is a Christian costs one nothing (with the possible exception of having tried to live an exemplary life based upon one's Faith in Jesus Christ).

What if the Muslims are correct?

Those who kneel instead at the altar of Darwinism cannot say the same... what they risk for their twisted belief-structure (if they are wrong) is hardly worth the effort.

You appear to have confused the theory of evolution with religion. You are making a fundamental category error, and as such any conclusions that you draw based upon your assumptions cannot be considered reliable.
799 posted on 09/29/2006 4:06:14 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Gargantua

...Evo-chimps are scorched for eternity in Hell.

Pass the barbecue sauce...

No comment. Just wanted to repeat the highlights and the essence of the post.

800 posted on 09/29/2006 4:41:05 PM PDT by ml1954 (ID = Case closed....no further inquiry allowed...now move along.)
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