What ever happened to Russ and Dee?

The Russ and Dee Website ^ | September 29, 2006 | Russ Fine

[holyscroller]

In case you wondered, here's why they disappeared.

[jra]

Nope, wasn't wondering. Both Russ and Dee are self-promoting, egomaniacal boobs.

Even in Russ's little tirade that is presumably about Gov. Riley, he can't help mentioning himself over and over.

[Anti-Bubba182]

"But, when we learned and then exposed on our former morning drive radio talk show that Governor Bob Riley’s Grand Masonic Lodge discriminates against African Americans, by formal resolution … that they will not allow a black man to become a member …"

Total BS! There is no such resolution in Masonry! If these clowns had proof it would be bigger news than this.

[the final gentleman]

Yeah, I wonder. Tell me why these two honest and true and good Americans were abruptly removed from the airways after fifteen years of accurate commentary supporting the prime tenets of conservative America.

What? Did their opposition to Republican Governor Bob Riley who lied to the people of Alabama and proposed the greatest tax increase in the history of Alabama set their doom. But lying Bob Riley, sat politically, yesterday, smiling, right next to President Bush.

Yeah, I'd like to know. The understandable vendetta of Russ and Dee was the absurd hypocrisy of illegals aliens being legal in Alabama in a self-righteous modern day Republican world.

A pox on the Alabama Republicans.

[Kirkwood]

"Total BS! There is no such resolution in Masonry! If these clowns had proof it would be bigger news than this."

Apparently they had to go way back to an 1876 resolution in this particular lodge's bylaws to make this accusation.

[Nip]

It never fails to amaze me. Someone gets fired for whatever reason and the next thing you hear out of their mouths is “I was fired because of….”.

And the because of is never about them.

I found it most interesting that because the Grand Lodge of Alabama doesn’t allow African-Americans - aka men of color, aka ---- that one of their members must be a racist.

That is a jump and 11/10ths. Using the same criteria, ex-president Clinton is also a racist as are many many other key political figures (both historic and contemporary).

And, if you want to continue this stupid mud slinging campaign how many other stupid assertions can you make about almost anyone? But, the Lord help you if you make an accurate statement about one of the multitude of “protected sub-species” that inhabit the contemporary political scene!

[Kirkwood]

"Could President Bush have possibly have known this about ‘Brother Riley’ before he came to Birmingham? Of course he knew. "

It is the first question I would think of asking someone before coming to give a political speech. /sarc

[Anti-Bubba182]

Sheesh!

[plain talk]

I've listened to these boobs over the course of many years because there are not a whole lot of choices in the great City of Birmingham. They are nut jobs without a logical bone in their bodies as demonstrated by this write-up.

They get equally wound up over any and all issues - big and small - that arise from their callers without prioritization or putting them in perspective. They just like to emote and rant. They see a conspiracy behind every rock. My guess is they were pulled because of a lack of ratings. In any case - no loss. AMF

[Prospero]

On the contrary, and with all due respect the the Friends of the Widow's Son, and all the Grand Flavors of Free and Accepted Masonry, in my fair South - of whom I am unashamed and proud to be a Son - there is a history of bifurcation, of Lodges for the descendants of African Slaves and Lodges for descendants of Charlemagne.

This hasn't changed, though some Rites turn a blind eye to such distinctions, its ancient tradition, though certainly not as ancient as the Fellowship.

But, in agreement, such "a formal resolution" is ridiculous, as described. The Burden of Proof is on the accuser here.

The Orders don't inscribe such resolutions, and are no more public institutions than Bob Jones University.

To imply the Grand Orders have the political power they once enjoyed in the South (as much in the Black communities as in the "White,") is too late by decades.

It is as if these Radio play-actors had come out and said Gov. Riley's home Church congregation was exclusively White, as it probably is not, though such would not be rare in the South, no longer by compulsion but by choice.

"Pssst. Did you know Gov. Riley's dad went to an all-white public school?"

If they have such a Resolution, present it.

On the Square...

[the final gentleman]

Make a point, plain talker, Russ and Dee happen to be representative of a majority of Alabamans. Do you think that most of Alabamians are nutcases?

Russ, and sometimes Dee, are Jews that bring out the best of Christianity in us all.

Just what, plain talker, is your bitch?

[Surtur]

There is only one conclusion that can be drawn: The Grand Masonic Lodge of Alabama is racist.

Yeah, So effing what? So is the NAACP, the Congressional Black Caucus, laRaza, et al. Why aren't Russ and Dee raising a stink about those racist organizations? Could it be because those orgs are racist against whites, and not for whites. Well screw that. As a conservative, I believe in the right of association for everyone. and if a group of whites only wants to associate with other whites, it is their business and no one else's. The government has no business telling private organizations who they can and/or can not associate with.

[Bubber One]

The issue is none other than the Right to Free Speech. R & D were stepping on Lying Bob Riley's toes so Lying Bob had them censored. Any other issue mentioned is secondary. The voters in Alabama are stupid and have proven it many times by selecting the candidate with the most money ie Luther Strange for Lt. gov. Monday was a sad day for Alabama and the Nation.

[the final gentleman]

Certainly the Masons of Alabama have a Constitutional right to be racially restrictive and Russ Fine has a Constitutional right to report that they are so.

We can't dance around reality and the reality is that the Republican Governor of Alabama is a cartoon politician.

And (may God help us all) the Democrat candidate was worse.

[plain talk]

I don't think Russ and Dee are representatives of much of anything. They are just nutcases without sufficient comparative analytical and logical reasoning capabilities. Hotheads like Michael Savage.

[the final gentleman]

What you think, plain talk, matters little.
What is guaranteed by our Constitution is what counts.

Like, for example, your right to call Michael Savage a hothead; and your right to declare Russ and Dee representative of nothing, and, without stating your reasoning, name-calling them all "nutcases" at your pleasure.

Young children do it all the time.

[plain talk]

Ain't wasting time with people who like hotheads like you, chum.

[jra]

Russ and Dee represent Russ and Dee, Sparky.

The notion that they're a reflection of the populus of Alabama is an overstatement at best and a complete fabrication at worst.

Don't worry, though...small children do that all the time.

LMAO

[the final gentleman]

Let's see now..."plain talk" called me "Chum" and "jra" called me "Sparky" and although Russ and Dee and the voters soundly defeated Bob Riley's one and a half billion dollar tax increase at the polls, jra finds Russ and Dee to be out of step with the Alabama people.

And he is LHAO...alone.

[bwteim]

Bubber One
September 30, 2006

"The voters in Alabama are stupid "

Thanks for that extensive report, concise analysis, and the supporting evidence for your claim.