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Foley, Pirro, Allen - Political Set-Ups?
ChronWatch ^ | 10/03/2006 | Doc Farmer

Posted on 10/03/2006 9:28:02 AM PDT by DocFarmer

Foley, Pirro, Allen - Political Set-Ups? Written by Doc Farmer Tuesday, October 03, 2006

File this article under "Things That Make You Go Hmmm...."

First of all, let me make my meaning plain -- Former House Representative Mark Foley is a bastard. He's a scumbag. He's a sleazy pervert. He's a disgrace. I don't care if he laid a finger on any congressional pages or not. His Instant Messages were disgusting, and he had no business using his position of power to "flirt" with underage boys (or girls, if he were so inclined).

I do, however, have to ask this question. Why did the revelations take so long to be released? And why, particularly, now?

Apparently, these interchanges between Foley and a certain unnamed youth happened a long while back. At first, I heard only about the e-mail messages. I looked at them, and was singularly unimpressed. It wasn't lewd, lascivious, or perverted as far as I could determine. A few were a bit odd, but that was it.

Then I read the IMs. These were sickening. But they raised questions in my mind. How many people keep IM records? What systems actually record them? Why would anybody want to record them?

Well, the fact is somebody did. The Instant Messages were apparently written as long as three years ago! Yet nothing was done about this for many months. Until five weeks before an election. And on a Friday afternoon, just in time for plenty of analysis by all the "talking heads" political programs. Suddenly, all of the sordid details were immediately available for the world. At that point, Foley resigned. While he was right to do so (probably the only decent thing that jerk did), I have to wonder at the appearance of manufactured serendipity.

Oh, and you may also have heard about Jeanine Pirro. She was running for a Senate seat against the Hildebeast, but that didn't last very long. So, she started going after a state seat instead of federal -- Attorney General of New York State, if I'm not mistaken. However, she has an Achilles Heel in her past and present -- in the form of her husband. Apparently, he's a jerk and a jailbird and a philanderer. So, she has a quiet chat with Bernie Kerik (who used to work for Rudy Giuliani), to ask about whether she should bug her own personal property to see if hubby's been doing the mattress mambo with someone other than her. Suddenly, there is a great hue and cry over her asking such questions while taking no action. Nobody seems to be concerned that the conversation between her and Kerik was bugged, though. Nor do they seem to be asking why they were being bugged.

And then there's George Allen, who is running for another Senate seat. Suddenly, his opponent is bringing up claims of racism and Allen's use of the "N" word in the past. Allen's been in plenty of elections prior to this most recent run. No word, no hint of racism has ever appeared prior to this. Oh, and by the way, I don't see the term "macaca" as racist. If Allen wanted to be racist, he would have called that jerk with the camera "Apu Nahasapeemapetilon." Assuming he was a fan of "The Simpsons," and assuming that he could pronounce it, of course.

All of these things have happened within a couple of weeks.

By the way, Allen's opponent, James Webb, allegedly yelled the "N" word at folks in San Diego in his earlier years, until he and his fellow buddies were caught one time and had seven kinds of crap beaten out of them by a group of men who were the target of their racist tirade. Nobody seems to be asking the same questions of Webb that they are of Allen.

Now, I'm not heavily into conspiracy theory. Nevertheless, I do have to wonder about such a flush of "coincidence." All coming in a very close time frame. All having to do with items which we are NOT yet sure are crimes, if at all (and yes, as disgusting as Foley's actions are, we are not sure if any LAWS were broken yet -- although if his actions weren't illegal, they bloody well should have been!)

And one other coincidence. All of them were rep/con/tairs (Republicans for our friends in Rio Linda).

Political sleaze is nothing new, of course. Nevertheless, the impression being put forward in the MSM is that ONLY the rep/con/tairs are capable of it. All at the same time, I might add -- very closely tied to the upcoming election.

While Foley resigned, and rightly so, there are many lib/dem/soc/commies who have committed illicit and illegal acts (or have been accused of same) and continue along with their political lives as if almost nothing has changed. The first modern "intern" scandal, the Congressional Page scandal of 1983, was committed by Gerry Studds (D- Massachusetts) and Daniel Crane (R-Illinois).

Gerry Studds didn't apologize, and didn't repent his actual acts of sexual intercourse with an underage male page. Nevertheless, he kept his seat (even after turning his back on the Congress while their bill of censure was read), and was re-elected several times. Crane apologized for having sexual intercourse with an underage female page, and was voted out the next year.

Barney Frank (D-Massachusetts) was paying a male prostitute/boyfriend out of his own pocket (which, by the way, was filled by the pay that you and I provided via our taxes), and the boyfriend/prostitute was running a brothel out of Frank's basement. Barney is still in office.

William Jefferson (D-Louisiana) had about $100 grand stuffed in his freezer. He is currently under investigation for a number of crimes, but the most he's had to "suffer" is the removal from a House committee. Jefferson is still in office.

Patrick Kennedy (D-Massachusetts) got messed up on booze and pills and rammed into a security cordon with his car. He denied it, lied about it, and then decided to "get help" with an addiction problem and dodged the political bullet. Kennedy is still in office.

Cynthia McKinney (D-Georgia) violated House security, refused three calls for her to stop, and then SLUGGED A COP! She cried "racism" and did not offer an actual apology for her actions -- just how her actions were "interpreted." McKinney is still in office (although, thankfully, her constituency have voted her out in the primary earlier this year).

The lib/dem/soc/commies have been trying EVERYTHING possible to oust their rep/con/tair opponents. They've lied, they've misdirected, and they've even aided and abetted the release of classified documents in a time of war.

It would not surprise me one whit if these "revelations" were part of an overall coordinated lib/dem/soc/commie campaign to smear their opponents in order for them to regain power. They can't seem to regain power with honest debate. They can't seem to regain power with honest elections, from photo-ID'd voters with American citizenship. So, dig up the dirt and start shoveling the shit. And start demanding investigations of the House rep/con/tair leadership with a "what did they know and when did they know it" point of view. I wonder if they're mixing the tar and plucking the feathers in anticipation.

By the way, have you noticed how quickly the "Clinton Loses His Temper" story has died, since Foley's illicit story has surfaced? Despite the fact that it was proven that Clinton lied in that interview? Indeed, according to Oliver North, Clinton actually violated the law by targeting an assassination of bin Laden while three Presidential Orders were in place which prohibited such actions. No word yet on whether anyone is demanding an investigation. I'm not holding my breath.

No matter what the timing, Foley's actions were disgusting and, very hopefully, illegal -- I say hopefully, because I'd like to see anybody who abuses their power in this fashion to be thrown in jail for a very long time.

Even so, I have to seriously question the circumstances under which this and other politically-motivated stories have found the light of day. Or more accurately, the spotlight of a very slanted lib/dem/soc/commie-oriented Mainstream Media.

Like I said, "Things That Make You Go Hmmm...."

About the Writer: Doc Farmer is a writer and humorist who is also a moderator on ChronWatch's Forum. He formerly lived in Saudi Arabia and Qatar, but now resides in the Midwest. Doc receives e-mail at docfarmer9999@yahoo.co.uk.

This Article Was First Published On ChronWatch At: http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=24078


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 10/03/2006 9:28:05 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: DocFarmer

add the Woodward book to the pile...


2 posted on 10/03/2006 9:28:51 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: onef

ping


3 posted on 10/03/2006 9:32:15 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: DocFarmer
Why did the revelations take so long to be released? And why, particularly, now?

O-C-T-O-B-E-R

S-U-R-P-R-I-S-E

Next question?

4 posted on 10/03/2006 9:33:17 AM PDT by 100-Fold_Return (Those who would bash Osteen/Warren would support HAMAS)
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To: DocFarmer

Have the DIMS even come out and said what Foley has done was wrong? Or have they just played the political game of demanding resignations?


5 posted on 10/03/2006 9:33:45 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: DocFarmer

Vote.com's got a related poll going on right now -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1712848/posts

Pass it around!


6 posted on 10/03/2006 9:34:10 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: 100-Fold_Return
The real October Surprise hasn't yet arrived.

It isn't going to help the Democrats.

7 posted on 10/03/2006 9:34:43 AM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: 100-Fold_Return
"Why did the revelations take so long to be released? And why, particularly, now?"


Now ?, because Political gain is everything, even if a few 16 year old Pages got molested in the meantime
8 posted on 10/03/2006 9:36:14 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: DocFarmer
The Instant Messages were apparently written as long as three years ago!

I'm curious as to why the Rats or whoever had the IMs didn't unleash them before the 2004 elections. Surely the 2004 elections were of greater importance than this year's mid-terms.

9 posted on 10/03/2006 9:36:18 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: DocFarmer

you could easily set up the dems the same way, just find a word that is really offensive but vague for example macaca, they go to a democrat rally and introduce yourself claiming that the vague insult is your last name for example macaca, tape yourself being address by the democrat as that last name macaca, get the lamestream media to cooperate by running the video over and over, instant scandal...


10 posted on 10/03/2006 9:36:46 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: DocFarmer

Yes, I think so. This is a carefully planned and orchestrated strategy. It reminds me a lot of the Clinton War Room. This is a Clinton job. Remember, the pair wants back into the White House in two years.


11 posted on 10/03/2006 9:37:00 AM PDT by twigs
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To: frogjerk

I believe that this would have something to do with federal communications laws.


12 posted on 10/03/2006 9:38:12 AM PDT by twigs
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To: DocFarmer

The dimwits can NO longer win elections therefore they do this kind of garbage.


13 posted on 10/03/2006 9:38:53 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: B Knotts
It isn't going to help the Democrats.


I hope it is the equivalent of a Hiroshima for them. The Dems have gone all out kamikaze (suicidal acts of desperation)just like the Japs when they were getting the crap kicked out of them.
14 posted on 10/03/2006 9:40:49 AM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: DocFarmer


15 posted on 10/03/2006 9:41:05 AM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: twigs

I think you're right-those two will stop at nothing to get their power back.


16 posted on 10/03/2006 9:42:34 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: DocFarmer

The Democrats cannot win elections based on substance.


17 posted on 10/03/2006 9:43:49 AM PDT by msnimje (Seriously, if it REALLY were a religion of PEACE, would they have to label it as such?)
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To: 100-Fold_Return

Gee, and all I've been hearing in the news is the concern over Karl Rove's "October Surprise"...


18 posted on 10/03/2006 9:44:25 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: DocFarmer

Here's a really simple question: Who saves Instant Messages?


19 posted on 10/03/2006 9:45:36 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: DocFarmer
How many people keep IM records? What systems actually record them? Why would anybody want to record them?

Every IM program I've ever used allows the option of saving chat logs. They're quite useful if you hate taking notes during a "conversation", but want to go back and reference the "conversation" later, such as getting directions, recipes, etc.

20 posted on 10/03/2006 9:46:34 AM PDT by kevkrom (War is not about proportionality. Knitting is about proportionality. War is about winning.)
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To: kevkrom
"Every IM program I've ever used allows the option of saving chat logs. They're quite useful if you hate taking notes during a "conversation", but want to go back and reference the "conversation" later, such as getting directions, recipes, etc."

The point is: Who would IM with pornographic discussion and save them? Unless it was to use them against the other person?

21 posted on 10/03/2006 9:49:42 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: kevkrom

Foley's homosexuality was known. Could the pages have been contacted by someone to keep track of their IM messages with the congressman? I don't think it takes a tinfoil hat to imagine that happening. There's lots of intrinsic intrigue in DC anyway.


22 posted on 10/03/2006 9:50:02 AM PDT by twigs
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To: DocFarmer
Just another isolated incident. /sarcasm
23 posted on 10/03/2006 9:53:24 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: kevkrom

Mine sure doesn't! If I want to save an IM I have with my folks, I have to cut 'n paste to a text file. Manually.


24 posted on 10/03/2006 9:54:50 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: DocFarmer

This column could have answered its own questions in ten words or less:

1) it's election time
2) double standard
3) doh!


25 posted on 10/03/2006 9:58:38 AM PDT by karnage
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To: TommyDale
Here's a really simple question: Who saves Instant Messages?

Some of us don't even know how.

26 posted on 10/03/2006 9:59:01 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: DocFarmer; All
THE PROOF THAT DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVES WERE AFTER MARK FOLEY SINCE 2004!!
27 posted on 10/03/2006 10:00:09 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: DocFarmer

Yes. These are political set-ups. It's an election season, and it completely normal for the Democrats to do anything and everything to win.


28 posted on 10/03/2006 10:03:09 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: Graymatter

Exactly! This is a setup from the beginning, dating back several years. Foley is guilty, and did the right thing by stepping down. Those who illegally copied his emails or Instant Messages without his consent should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for illegal wiretapping.


29 posted on 10/03/2006 10:04:35 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: twigs
Could the pages have been contacted by someone to keep track of their IM messages with the congressman?

I am thinking it may be even more sleezy. Let's say the DEMS get the name of one of the pages involved in the less damaging email contacts from Foley. They convince him to contact Foley again and try to get him to get more "personal". Then they can easily track what is going on in the IM's.

30 posted on 10/03/2006 10:07:52 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: DocFarmer

I find it hard to believe that no one has realized that Foley was obviously set up by Allen to take the heat off of himself. It’s quite a cunning plan.


31 posted on 10/03/2006 10:08:50 AM PDT by elc (Feeling the babywearing love)
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To: TommyDale
Those who illegally copied his emails or Instant Messages without his consent should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for illegal wiretapping.

Not if they were the other party, I assume?

32 posted on 10/03/2006 10:09:16 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Graymatter

Kids do. These pages would certainly have known how to save them.


33 posted on 10/03/2006 10:10:04 AM PDT by twigs
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To: TommyDale

You can set any of the IM programs to keep an IM log, many businesses require it if IM is used for company matters. Also, I believe that, like emails, they can be had via subpeona of the ISP or whomever maintains the IM systems server (i.e. AOL, Yahoo, etc).


34 posted on 10/03/2006 10:10:57 AM PDT by BritExPatInFla
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To: TommyDale
Exactly! This is a setup from the beginning, dating back several years. Foley is guilty, and did the right thing by stepping down. Those who illegally copied his emails or Instant Messages without his consent should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for illegal wiretapping.


I'm not sure that e-Mails or IMs are covered under wiretapping laws. Also, it is generally accepted that Internet messages of any type are inherently insecure.

That said, the only decent thing Foley did in this was to resign. His "rehab" dodge seems really lib/dem/soc/commie to me (and yes, I use that term both as a description of the so-called "left" and as an insult)...
35 posted on 10/03/2006 10:12:13 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: TommyDale

Lots of people do. I have done it to save a conversation I want/need to remember. Our various offices at work use IM as a communications tool, and I often paste information into a document if I need to hang onto it.

The point is that it's very easy to do and people should bear that in mind when IM'ing.


36 posted on 10/03/2006 10:14:35 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: linda_22003; DocFarmer; BritExPatInFla; twigs

I think we all know it can be done. What I am saying is: what would motivate ANYONE to save such IMs (pornographic or incriminating) unless they had a specific agenda?

I think we all know the answer.


37 posted on 10/03/2006 10:21:51 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: elc
I find it hard to believe that no one has realized that Foley was obviously set up by Allen to take the heat off of himself. It’s quite a cunning plan.

FOOL! It is all engineered by Rove, to take the focus away from the "quagmire" in Iraq! Can't you see it, the connections are as plain as day!

In other news, Alcoa stocks just went up 2 points :-)

38 posted on 10/03/2006 10:22:14 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: DocFarmer
The DUmmies must have SERIOUS reading comprehension problems! For some reason, they're under the impression that this thread is "Freeperland in Total Meltdown"

Wow! No stinking wonder they see up as down and down as up!

39 posted on 10/03/2006 10:27:41 AM PDT by RogerWilko
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To: Turbo Pig

You're probably right. It's way too cunning of a plan for Allen to dream up. :)


40 posted on 10/03/2006 10:28:06 AM PDT by elc (Feeling the babywearing love)
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To: RogerWilko

Wow! I've finally hit the big time! DU is interested in hating ME!

I'd like to thank all the little people who made this possible - Clinton, Kerry, Pelosi, Kennedy...


41 posted on 10/03/2006 10:31:31 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: TommyDale
pornographic

That could very well be your answer. To enjoy them again.
42 posted on 10/03/2006 10:34:32 AM PDT by elc (Feeling the babywearing love)
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To: DocFarmer
Foley?

Wonder if he had a secret FBI file?

43 posted on 10/03/2006 10:34:41 AM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: N. Theknow

Don't all politicians? I mean, they have to be investigated for the ability to review classified documents, don't they?


44 posted on 10/03/2006 10:35:58 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: elc

Well, with Foley we know it wasn't cunning linguists that set him up.


45 posted on 10/03/2006 10:37:46 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: Graymatter

A teenager sure would.


46 posted on 10/03/2006 10:39:55 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: DocFarmer
I have nothing to go on, but my instinct tells me that the GOP also has things up their sleeves, and will hit the dems when they have no time to recover.

I am very confident about that.
47 posted on 10/03/2006 10:41:46 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: gopwinsin04
No set up.

They did it to themselves....but there's a big difference.

Allen shot himself in the foot with a 22.

Foley with a double barrel shotgun.
48 posted on 10/03/2006 10:45:02 AM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I'm curious as to why the Rats or whoever had the IMs didn't unleash them before the 2004 elections. Surely the 2004 elections were of greater importance than this year's mid-terms.

They were convinced that the French Poodle was going to lead them into the promised land of eternal DemocRatic dominance. They never expected to lose so they many not have thought this was necessary. Plus, it runs risk of backfiring on them should some DemocRats get sucked in as well. By the way, have we heard from Bawney Fwank yet?

49 posted on 10/03/2006 10:55:28 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: DarthVader

Darth, Rush said today that the Democrats know the Foley scandal will be dead by Friday, so they will post another scandal Friday night to make the Sunday morning shows.


50 posted on 10/03/2006 11:07:40 AM PDT by Welike ike
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